What are your thoughts on this?

[Astrid]

No

So sex ed that is not approved in your
" theory" (guess) about God is different.

Ban that

 

[BPPLEE]

Whats your fact about your first ancestor ?

Whats your fact about your first ancestor ?

I’m not sure. I don’t accept abiogenesis though. Not sure about other things

 

[BPPLEE]

So sex ed that is not approved in your
" theory" (guess) about God is different.

Ban that

Nothing has been banned and it’s not about God.

 

[Astrid]

I’m not sure. I don’t accept abiogenesis though. Not sure about other things

Soooo
You figure a human being?
Or some tiny invertibrate ?

But you are positive that abio is imoossible.

You are not an organic chemist.

Whence such certainty?

 

[Astrid]

Nothing has been banned and it’s not about God.

What is it about then? Your personally developed
feelings about how things should be?

 

[BPPLEE]

Soooo
You figure a human being?
Or some tiny invertibrate ?

But you are positive that abio is imoossible.

You are not an organic chemist.

Whence such certainty?

Life comes from life. That’s all that’s been observed.
I’m far from an expert I just don’t believe that life came from non life unless God was involved.
How it all happened, I don’t know.
Is the creation story literal?
I’m not sure anymore.
I question a lot of things. I’m not ready to throw them under the bus though

 

[BPPLEE]

What is it about then? Your personally developed
feelings about how things should be?

I’m not telling anyone how things should be. Certain things shouldn’t be taught until about 6th or 7th grade. If you insist on teaching it earlier then leave the option to opt out

 

[Astrid]

Life comes from life. That’s all that’s been observed.
I’m far from an expert I just don’t believe that life came from non life unless God was involved.
How it all happened, I don’t know.
Is the creation story literal?
I’m not sure anymore.
I question a lot of things. I’m not ready to throw them under the bus though

You don't know of there was really a flood
or if evolution ( which is not about, does not
depend in any way) is real??

The reality or falsity of same is of profound
significace.

I'd be taking it seriously now if I hadn't yey.

 

[BPPLEE]

You don't know of there was really a flood
or if evolution ( which is not about, does not
depend in any way) is real??

The reality or falsity of same is of profound
significace.

I'd be taking it seriously now if I hadn't yey.

Talk about discursion. All roads lead to the TOE with you.
Let’s get back on topic

 

[Astrid]

Talk about discursion. All roads lead to the TOE with you.
Let’s get back on topic

If you aren't up for serious consideration
of the deepest make or break issues re your
bedrock beliefs, don't bring them up and
I for sure won't offer to ripple your pond.

 

[BPPLEE]

If you aren't up for serious consideration
of the deepest make or break issues re your
bedrock beliefs, don't bring them up and
I for sure won't offer to ripple your pond.

The TOE is that important to you? Can’t you see why some people compare to religion?
Anyway it’s a topic for another thread. I’m not closed minded about it it’s just not the topic of this thread.

 

[Bradskii]

That’s not a theory

I'll make it one: Bradskii's Theory of Common Descent states that Bradskii and all his siblings are descended from at least one male ancestor four generations back.

In fact, why stop at 4? Let's change it to 100. And we find that there are no records to prove it. No direct evidence is available. So it can't be tested. And it can't be reproduced. Yet we know it's most definitely true. So not having any records of the exact event, not having any direct evidence, not being able to actually test the event and not being able to excactly reproduce it does not therefore mean the theory is false.

 

[BPPLEE]

@Bradskii You and @Estrid have some wonderful ideas to discuss in one of the many threads about the TOE. The subject is not even remotely relevant to this thread. Besides that @Bradskii you are claiming common descent from a human ancestor. That is replicated every day. You just took it back further

 

[Bradskii]

Life comes from life. That’s all that’s been observed.
I’m far from an expert I just don’t believe that life came from non life unless God was involved.
How it all happened, I don’t know.

None of us do as yet. And I don't think anyone has said that God couldn't have been involved. The search for the answer is, from your perspective, a search for the method He used.

I'd assume that you'd suggest that all this that we experience now is due to God. And that He is the cause of it all. Abiogenesis obviously happened because at one point there was no life. And then there was. On that basis, how can you deny it happened? By saying it wasn't a 'natural' occurrence? That He must be involved?

Well, OK. Let's keep looking.

 

[BPPLEE]

None of us do as yet. And I don't think anyone has said that God couldn't have been involved. The search for the answer is, from your perspective, a search for the method He used.

I'd assume that you'd suggest that all this that we experience now is due to God. And that He is the cause of it all. Abiogenesis obviously happened because at one point there was no life. And then there was. On that basis, how can you deny it happened? By saying it wasn't a 'natural' occurrence? That He must be involved?

Well, OK. Let's keep looking.

If God created man from the dust of the earth that was abiogenesis. If it started in some toxic primordial soup I don’t think it could just randomly happen on its own. I don’t believe everything came to be by random chance. But again these topics have nothing to do with this thread

 

[Bradskii]

If God created man from the dust of the earth that was abiogenesis. If it started in some toxic primordial soup I don’t think it could just randomly happen on its own. I don’t believe everything came to be by random chance. But again these topics have nothing to do with this thread

Nothing comes from anything toxic, by definition. But if God had wanted to start the ball rolling by allowing (or prompting) the combination of some basic elements in a primordial soup, then that's up to Him. We'll let you know how He did it when we find out.

 

[Astrid]

The TOE is that important to you? Can’t you see why some people compare to religion?
Anyway it’s a topic for another thread. I’m not closed minded about it it’s just not the topic of this thread.

No. You're 100 % missing the idea.
But quit talking about it if you don't want to.

 

[BPPLEE]

Nothing comes from anything toxic, by definition. But if God had wanted to start the ball rolling by allowing (or prompting) the combination of some basic elements in a primordial soup, then that's up to Him. We'll let you know how He did it when we find out.

Okay non toxic primordial soup. Thanks but I doubt that you’re ever going to find out.

 

[BPPLEE]

No. You're 100 % missing the idea.
But quit talking about it if you don't want to.

I’m not afraid to talk about anything. This thread is just not the place to do it

 

[rjs330]

I am the great great grandson of my great great grandfather. Nobody observed that. There are no records. No evidence. It can't be tested. It can't be reproduced.

Tell me if it's true or not.

That's not how science works. Are you a scientific theory then?