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ViaCrucis

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Considering what Paul said against homosexuality, sexual immorality, and living to satisfy the the flesh and encouraging others to do the same, I'd say yes.

You don't think that holding hateful attitudes toward your neighbor and bearing false witness against them is carnal?


Then why would you want to make them stumble by teaching them to be hateful and unkind and to act contrary to the way of Christ and the commandments of God?

But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.” Matthew 16:23

"Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil on account of the Son of Man." - Luke 6:22

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Do you you believe that we should treat other people, including trans and non-heterosexual people kindly?
Yes, but what does that have to do with teaching young kids to admire LGBTQ+ and that they can be any number of genders and sexual orientations?
 
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You don't think that holding hateful attitudes toward your neighbor and bearing false witness against them is carnal?
I think trying to get Christians to stay quiet about sinfulness is from Satan.
Then why would you want to make them stumble by teaching them to be hateful and unkind and to act contrary to the way of Christ and the commandments of God?
Condoning, defending and promoting sinfulness isn't the way of Christ, or a commandment of God, it's a lie from Satan.
"Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil on account of the Son of Man." - Luke 6:22

-CryptoLutheran
Jesus wasn't talking about those who condone and defend the practice sexual immorality and promote a twisted humanistic worldly view that there are multiple genders and sexual orientations to children - None of that is on account of the Son of Man, it's on account of Satan.
 
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I take that as agreement that nowhere in the Gospels does anybody say that all gay people lie. I go further, because no part of the scriptures actually makes that absurd accusation.
Yeah I agree. They don't differentiate gay liars vs others.
am an atheist brought up in the Church and rejecting its teachings. How do you expect me to answer that? My interest here is this: a poster made a false statement about Scripture which he - of course - could not back up.
Gotcha.
 
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I posted another video that showed people marching and chanting “We’re here we’re queer and we’re coming for your children “. I don’t think that was meant to be funny. There is a radical element in the movement that are very aggressive. Does this include all LGBTQ people? Of course not. None of the ones I know would support that
 
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It's the very reason for the thread. And it ended up being an excellent example of people accepting lies because it's what they want to believe.

You know, your right. I never watched that video. It...looked like dog poop to me so I walked around it.
 
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Do you believe that your attitude here is what St. Paul had in mind when he wrote, "Have this same mind in you that was in Christ Jesus"?

-CryptoLutheran

I'm not a perfect Christian. I try. It is what it is.
 
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As a Christian do you see fornication being moral if it's based on love?
When Love is understood as a self-sacrifice for others in contrast to lust, then it counters the carnal impetus to fornicate.
 
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You know, your right. I never watched that video. It...looked like dog poop to me so I walked around it.
The reason for the video was to see what people thought about it. I posted a transcript of the actual original lyrics, which was discussed far more than the part that was added onto it. Then there's all the "we're coming for your children" chanting during LGBTQ+ pride parades. And also the videos posted of drag queens pole dancing in skimpy Victoria's Secret type lingerie and leather bondage outfits to audiences of children.
 
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Do you believe that your attitude here is what St. Paul had in mind when he wrote, "Have this same mind in you that was in Christ Jesus"?

-CryptoLutheran

You guys remind me of telephone soliciters. You try to speak to them and they ignore it and go on with their script. Are you scripted?

Don't you think that my attitude is being influenced by how all of you gays speak? You guys arent on this Christian website looking for forgiveness or a way out of your sin or the Lord. In this very thread one of you guys told me you don't want to hear that stuff.

Do you want to see me with a better disposition towards you gays? How about...DING! being nice youeselves? Politeness, Being more friendly in your own speech patterns! Wow, what a concept.

Remember in scripture where the girl was following the group of disciples around? They asked Jesus what to do and then they sent her away from them. You see, she could talk psuedo nicely but her heart was not with them, it was against them. They all knew what was going on! Sound familiar yet?

Do you think I can not hear the underlying hostility from you gays in your posts? And frankly, I don't like it. Now I know how David felt when he heard Goliath putting down their God. He wanted to stand up for his God and his people.

Hi There!
 
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When Love is understood as a self-sacrifice for others in contrast to lust, then it counters the carnal impetus to fornicate.
Bringing someone with you into the sin of sexual immorality, is neither sacrifice nor love. The way you show true godly love for someone is to keep them from sin, not getting them to engage in it with you. Nor is encouraging anyone in any way to commit sin or condoning their sin an act of love. It's leading them down the broad road to destruction.
 
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I think most conservatives were fine with tolerance and acceptance it’s when it rises to the level of “You must celebrate us and teach our lifestyles to your children or else you’re a bigot “ that most people take issue with. This is bound to cause backlash
 
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Yes indeed.
 
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There's a passage in Galatians 4...

16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?.../

It seems like us Christians are being made out to be the enemy when it is but the truth that we speak.
 
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Exactly, which is why the factual and observable differences between lust and Love should be taught in schools.
 
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Exactly, which is why the factual and observable differences between lust and Love should be taught in schools.
That's not a reason to immerse little kids in transgenderism and multiple sexual orientations. And we as Christians should in no way be condoning, encouraging, nor defending it. It's something we should feel obligated to speak out against.
 
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There's a passage in Galatians 4...

16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?.../

It seems like us Christians are being made out to be the enemy when it is but the truth that we speak.
Just as Christ told us would happen.
 
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That's not a reason to immerse little kids in transgenderism and multiple sexual orientations. And we as Christians should in no way be condoning, encouraging, nor defending it. It's something we should feel obligated to speak out against.
There is an age appropriate to learn about it. There's no reason to fear talking about it. Not only should observable factual truth be taught in schools simply because that's what the term education implies, but also because the powers of spiritual darkness exist in the soul through ignorance of truth. Psychosis is about being out of touch with reality even as lust forms in a vain imagination.

Proverbs 4:19
19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

 
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Stop playing around. You should know that it's wrong.
 
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