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What are we to do respecting the Ten Commandments?

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ibid.
"I have found the Companion Bible to be an invaluable study aid. I don't agree on everything Bullinger says.
For instance he says there were four others crucified with Jesus. Appendix 164
He says there were six denials of Peter. Appendix 160
Appendixes to The Companion Bible"

"The Sufferings, and the Glory"

OP-wise, E.W.Bullinger is tried, true and tested/ proven in line with all of God's Word.... a few errors, but many fewer than present day teachers and evangelists who don't care apparently about allowing error freely !

Daily at Jesus' feet, we can learn. This is what's necessary. This is what's important and true.
 
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I've used Bullinger's Companion Bible (KJV) for nearly 30 years and it is by far, the most informative study Bible ever written, especially the OT. As I understand it, Bullinger died after completing John 10. I think it was completed by Sir Robert Anderson. I'm pretty sure the Appendices had already been completed by Mr. Bullinger. It has always seemed to me that the notes in the Companion Bible get less informative after John 10. About 2 months ago, I bought a large type Companion Bible because my eyes are going south. It's HUGE!! It weighs over 5 pounds. Better than squinting, though.

I have bound copies of most all Bullinger books, but about everything he ever wrote is available free on the link below. I also think the works of Anderson and other authors are available free on this site. Most of the other stuff on there are Acts 2 and mid-Acts dispensationalism, neither of which I agree with in the least, However, any form of dispensationalism is more accurate then any mainstream denominational doctrine NOT based on dispensationalism. Acts 28 dispensationalism has always been my cup of tea. Most of Bullinger's books, like his lexicon and his huge book on Figures of speech in the Bible are Bible Helps, rather than doctrinal, which makes them apply to everyone.
Fellowship Bible Church, Orlando, FL
 
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The problem with being the one who has special knowledge/vision/understanding most other Christians lack, is nobody understands what you're talking about most of the time.
That is why God tells them, all of us, to keep seeking Him, not human truths.
 
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That is why God tells them, all of us, to keep seeking Him, not human truths.
That's what most everyone who subscribes to doctrine established by someone in the 19th century says. Whether that be EW Bullinger's doctrine, Or Ellen White's doctrine, or Nelson's, or Scofield's etc.
 
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Verbal inspiration is but one theory on the inspiration of Bible writers, but is is by no means the only theory. A quick web search turned up this document. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions, but it does address the issue: You are asserting that your view is the correct view. I hear you but disagree.
"Verbal inspiration"? Who ever said anything about "verbal inspiration"? Scripture says that it was "inspired" which simply means "breathed". Does that mean that God spoke the words to the Apostles (and the OT writers) for them to write? Or did He put the thoughts directly into their minds? Or did they go into a trance in which they were taken over by the Holy Spirit and He did the writing Himself? It doesn't matter at all. What matters is that He put the Words into their minds in some way, and they wrote them down. They are God's words not the human writers, and so they are perfect, Holy, and can be trusted as if God were speaking them directly to you.
You assert this. I disagree.
And you are free to disagree, but you are not disagreeing with me, but with Scripture. It's not really wise to be on the wrong side of Scripture.
Yes we can rest any day. So would you be OK with making that day of rest the 7th day? Or must it be the 1st day?
There is NO SET DAY on which we must worship in the NT Church. It can be the first, or the third, or the seventh, or every single day, as Rom 14 makes clear.
 
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Romans 14 is about what man esteems Rom 14:5 not what God esteems Exo 20:8-11 Isa 58:13 Mat 2:28 or one of God's personally written commandments- why the Sabbath is not mentioned once in all of Romans 14. It would be like us arguing over is Christmas or Easter a religious holiday

We are told to follow Jesus if we abide in Him

1 John 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Why we are still called to rest in the NT according to the way God rested

Heb 4:4 For He (God) has spoken in a certain place (Mt Sinai) of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. (on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3)

Sabbath-keeping remains for the people of God.

Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

God's faithful followers rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment Luke 23:56 God's faithful keep God's commandments- His version Rev 14:12
 
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why the Sabbath is not mentioned once in all of Romans 14. It would be like us arguing over is Christmas or Easter a religious holiday
The thread is about ten commandments not about the Sabbath command alone.

CCT 2168 The Jewish Sabbath Changed To Sunday By The Apostles

CCT 2169 The Apostles therefore resolved to consecrate the first day of the week to the divine worship, and called it the Lord's day. St. John in the Apocalypse makes mention of the Lord's day; and the Apostle commands collections to be made on the first day of the week, that is, according to the interpretation of St. Chrysostom, on the Lord's day. From all this we learn that even then the Lord's day was kept holy in the Church.​

CCT 2170 Four Parts Of This Commandment

CCT 2171 In order that the faithful may know what they are to do and what to avoid on the Lord's day, it will not be foreign to his purpose, if the pastor, dividing the Commandment into its four natural parts, explain each word of it carefully.​
CCT 2172 First Part of this Commandment
CCT 2173 In the first place, then, he should explain generally the meaning of these words: Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.​
CCT 2174 "Remember"​
CCT 2175 The word remember is appropriately made use of at the beginning of the Commandment to signify that the sanctification of that particular day belonged to the ceremonial law. Of this it would seem to have been necessary to remind the people; for, although the law of nature commands us to devote a certain portion of time to the external worship to God, it fixes no particular day for the performance of this duty.​
CCT 2176 They are also to be taught, that from these words we may learn how we should employ our time during the week; that we are to keep constantly in view the Lord's day, on which we are, as it were, to render an account to God for our occupations and conduct; and that therefore our works should be such as not to be unacceptable in the sight of God, or, as it is written, be to us an occasion of grief, and a scruple of heart.​
CCT 2177 Finally, we are taught, and the instruction demands our serious attention, that there will not be wanting occasions which may lead to a forgetfulness of this Commandment, such as the evil example of others who neglect its observance, and an inordinate love of amusements and sports, which frequently withdraw from the holy and religious observance of the Lord's day.​
CCT 2178 Sabbath​
CCT 2179 We now come to the meaning of the word sabbath. Sabbath is a Hebrew word which signifies cessation. To keep the Sabbath, therefore, means to cease from labour and to rest. In this sense the seventh day was called the Sabbath, because God, having finished the creation of the world, rested on that day from all the work which He had done. Thus it is called by the Lord in Exodus.​
CCT 2180 Later on, not only the seventh day, but, in honour of that day, the entire week was called by the same name; and in this meaning of the word, the Pharisee says in St. Luke: I fast twice in a sabbath. So much will suffice with regard to the signification of the word sabbath.​
CCT 2181 "Keep Holy"​
CCT 2182 In the Scriptures keeping holy the Sabbath means a cessation from bodily labour and from business, as is clear from the following words of the Commandment: Thou shalt do no work on it. But this is not all that it means; otherwise it would have been sufficient to say in Deuteronomy, Observe the day of the sabbath; but it is added, and sanctify it; and these additional words prove that the Sabbath is a day sacred to religion, set apart for works of piety and devotion.​
CCT 2183 We sanctify the Sabbath fully and perfectly, therefore, when we offer to God works of piety and religion. This is evidently the Sabbath, which Isaias calls delightful; for festivals are, as it were, the delight of God and of pious men. And if to this religious and holy observance of the Sabbath we add works of mercy, the rewards promised us in the same chapter are numerous and most important.​
CCT 2184 The true and proper meaning, therefore, of this Commandment tends to this, that we take special care to set apart some fixed time, when, disengaged from bodily labour and worldly affairs, we may devote our whole being, soul and body, to the religious veneration of God.​
CCT 2185 Second Part of this Commandment
CCT 2186 The second part of the precept declares that the seventh day was consecrated by God to His worship; for it is written: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy works; but on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. From these words we learn that the Sabbath is consecrated to the Lord, that we are required on that day to render Him the duties of religion, and to know that the seventh day is a sign of the Lord's rest.​
CCT 2187 "The Seventh Day Is The Sabbath Of The Lord Thy God"​
CCT 2188 This particular day was fixed for the worship of God, because it would not have been well to leave to a rude people the choice of a time of worship, lest, perhaps, they might have imitated the festivals of the Egyptians.​
CCT 2189 The last day of the week was, therefore, chosen for the worship of God, and in this there is much that is symbolic. Hence in Exodus,' and in Ezechiel the Lord calls it a sign: See that you keep my sabbath because it is a sign between me and you in your generation, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctify you.​
CCT 2190 It was a sign that man should dedicate and sanctify himself to God, since even the very day is devoted to Him. For the holiness of the day consists in this, that on it men are bound in a special manner to practise holiness and religion.​
CCT 2191 It was also a sign, and, as it were, a memorial of the stupendous work of the creation. Furthermore, to the Jews it was a traditional sign, reminding them that they had been delivered by the help of God from the galling yoke of Egyptian bondage. This the Lord Himself declares in these words: Remember that thou also didst serve in Egypt, and the Lord thy God brought thee out from thence with a strong hand and a stretched out arm. Therefore hath he commanded thee that thou shouldst observe the sabbath day.​
CCT 2192 It is also a sign of a spiritual and celestial sabbath. The spiritual sabbath consists in a holy and mystical rest, wherein the old man being buried with Christ, is renewed to life and carefully applies himself to act in accordance with the spirit of Christian piety. For those who were once darkness but are now light in the Lord, should walk as children of the light, in all goodness and justice and truth, having no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.​
CCT 2193 The celestial sabbath, as St. Cyril observes on these words of the Apostle, There remaineth therefore a day of rest for the people of God, is that life in which, living with Christ, we shall enjoy all good, when sin shall be eradicated, according to the words: No lion shall be there, nor shall any mischievous beast go up by it, nor be found there; but a path shall be there, and it shall be called the holy way; for in the vision of God the souls of the Saints obtain every good. The pastor therefore should exhort and animate the faithful in the words: Let us hasten therefore to enter into that rest.​

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The thread is about ten commandments not about the Sabbath command alone.

CCT 2168 The Jewish Sabbath Changed To Sunday By The Apostles

CCT 2169 The Apostles therefore resolved to consecrate the first day of the week to the divine worship, and called it the Lord's day. St. John in the Apocalypse makes mention of the Lord's day; and the Apostle commands collections to be made on the first day of the week, that is, according to the interpretation of St. Chrysostom, on the Lord's day. From all this we learn that even then the Lord's day was kept holy in the Church.​

CCT 2170 Four Parts Of This Commandment

CCT 2171 In order that the faithful may know what they are to do and what to avoid on the Lord's day, it will not be foreign to his purpose, if the pastor, dividing the Commandment into its four natural parts, explain each word of it carefully.​
CCT 2172 First Part of this Commandment
CCT 2173 In the first place, then, he should explain generally the meaning of these words: Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.​
CCT 2174 "Remember"​
CCT 2175 The word remember is appropriately made use of at the beginning of the Commandment to signify that the sanctification of that particular day belonged to the ceremonial law. Of this it would seem to have been necessary to remind the people; for, although the law of nature commands us to devote a certain portion of time to the external worship to God, it fixes no particular day for the performance of this duty.​
CCT 2176 They are also to be taught, that from these words we may learn how we should employ our time during the week; that we are to keep constantly in view the Lord's day, on which we are, as it were, to render an account to God for our occupations and conduct; and that therefore our works should be such as not to be unacceptable in the sight of God, or, as it is written, be to us an occasion of grief, and a scruple of heart.​
CCT 2177 Finally, we are taught, and the instruction demands our serious attention, that there will not be wanting occasions which may lead to a forgetfulness of this Commandment, such as the evil example of others who neglect its observance, and an inordinate love of amusements and sports, which frequently withdraw from the holy and religious observance of the Lord's day.​
CCT 2178 Sabbath​
CCT 2179 We now come to the meaning of the word sabbath. Sabbath is a Hebrew word which signifies cessation. To keep the Sabbath, therefore, means to cease from labour and to rest. In this sense the seventh day was called the Sabbath, because God, having finished the creation of the world, rested on that day from all the work which He had done. Thus it is called by the Lord in Exodus.​
CCT 2180 Later on, not only the seventh day, but, in honour of that day, the entire week was called by the same name; and in this meaning of the word, the Pharisee says in St. Luke: I fast twice in a sabbath. So much will suffice with regard to the signification of the word sabbath.​
CCT 2181 "Keep Holy"​
CCT 2182 In the Scriptures keeping holy the Sabbath means a cessation from bodily labour and from business, as is clear from the following words of the Commandment: Thou shalt do no work on it. But this is not all that it means; otherwise it would have been sufficient to say in Deuteronomy, Observe the day of the sabbath; but it is added, and sanctify it; and these additional words prove that the Sabbath is a day sacred to religion, set apart for works of piety and devotion.​
CCT 2183 We sanctify the Sabbath fully and perfectly, therefore, when we offer to God works of piety and religion. This is evidently the Sabbath, which Isaias calls delightful; for festivals are, as it were, the delight of God and of pious men. And if to this religious and holy observance of the Sabbath we add works of mercy, the rewards promised us in the same chapter are numerous and most important.​
CCT 2184 The true and proper meaning, therefore, of this Commandment tends to this, that we take special care to set apart some fixed time, when, disengaged from bodily labour and worldly affairs, we may devote our whole being, soul and body, to the religious veneration of God.​
CCT 2185 Second Part of this Commandment
CCT 2186 The second part of the precept declares that the seventh day was consecrated by God to His worship; for it is written: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy works; but on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. From these words we learn that the Sabbath is consecrated to the Lord, that we are required on that day to render Him the duties of religion, and to know that the seventh day is a sign of the Lord's rest.​
CCT 2187 "The Seventh Day Is The Sabbath Of The Lord Thy God"​
CCT 2188 This particular day was fixed for the worship of God, because it would not have been well to leave to a rude people the choice of a time of worship, lest, perhaps, they might have imitated the festivals of the Egyptians.​
CCT 2189 The last day of the week was, therefore, chosen for the worship of God, and in this there is much that is symbolic. Hence in Exodus,' and in Ezechiel the Lord calls it a sign: See that you keep my sabbath because it is a sign between me and you in your generation, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctify you.​
CCT 2190 It was a sign that man should dedicate and sanctify himself to God, since even the very day is devoted to Him. For the holiness of the day consists in this, that on it men are bound in a special manner to practise holiness and religion.​
CCT 2191 It was also a sign, and, as it were, a memorial of the stupendous work of the creation. Furthermore, to the Jews it was a traditional sign, reminding them that they had been delivered by the help of God from the galling yoke of Egyptian bondage. This the Lord Himself declares in these words: Remember that thou also didst serve in Egypt, and the Lord thy God brought thee out from thence with a strong hand and a stretched out arm. Therefore hath he commanded thee that thou shouldst observe the sabbath day.​
CCT 2192 It is also a sign of a spiritual and celestial sabbath. The spiritual sabbath consists in a holy and mystical rest, wherein the old man being buried with Christ, is renewed to life and carefully applies himself to act in accordance with the spirit of Christian piety. For those who were once darkness but are now light in the Lord, should walk as children of the light, in all goodness and justice and truth, having no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.​
CCT 2193 The celestial sabbath, as St. Cyril observes on these words of the Apostle, There remaineth therefore a day of rest for the people of God, is that life in which, living with Christ, we shall enjoy all good, when sin shall be eradicated, according to the words: No lion shall be there, nor shall any mischievous beast go up by it, nor be found there; but a path shall be there, and it shall be called the holy way; for in the vision of God the souls of the Saints obtain every good. The pastor therefore should exhort and animate the faithful in the words: Let us hasten therefore to enter into that rest.​

...​
There is no "first day" in the Ten Commandments. Who is above God to change something God of the Universe wrote with His own finger? Exo 31:18 The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Exo 20:10 No one is above God, but sadly there is someone we were warned about who claims to be Isa 14:14 that works through an earthy kingdom Rev 13:2 that changed God's times and law which the Sabbath is both a law- 4th commandment and is also a time- every seventh day that was changed just as predicted Dan 7:25

I would be really careful trying to imply the promises of keeping the seventh day Sabbath to the first day- that's a lot of editing to God's Word. Pro 30:5-6 God claimed the first day is a day for works and labors. Exo 20:9 Something Christ tells us what it does to Him when we don't listen to Him Eze 22:26

The apostles never rebelled against God to change a dot or tittle of His law. They faithfully kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing Mat 24:20 Mat 28:18-20 Rev 14:12

There is no scripture that designates the first day as the Lords day or a weekly day of worship. Best not to add what is not there. This was all added centuries later according to the doctrine your own church teaches

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
—Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-

Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'
—Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

Its best to obey God the way He said, because He is the only one who can save us. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16, the apostles taught it is better to obey God than man. Acts 5:29
 
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There is no "first day" in the Ten Commandments. Who is above God to change something God of the Universe wrote with His own finger? No one.
Without a first day there can be no seventh day.

The apostles never rebelled against God to change a dot or tittle of His law. They faithfully kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing Mat 24:20 Mat 28:18-20 Rev 14:12
Yet the Church keeps the first day and has since the beginning. It is the Jews who keep the seventh day. For them keeping the seventh day is part of the ancient Israelite religion from which modern Judaism arose after the destruction of Jerusalem and the deportation of the Jews from Judea in 135 AD. Christians keep the Lord's day, which is Sunday.

There is no scripture that designates the first day as the Lords day or a weekly day of worship. Best not to add what is not there. This was all added centuries later according to the doctrine your church teaches, which scripture warned us about Dan 7:25.
You must know that this is not the truth.

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
Keeping the first day, Sunday, is the work of the apostles and their teaching.

CCC 1163 "Holy Mother Church believes that she should celebrate the saving work of her divine Spouse in a sacred commemoration on certain days throughout the course of the year. Once each week, on the day which she has called the Lord's Day, she keeps the memory of the Lord's resurrection. She also celebrates it once every year, together with his blessed Passion, at Easter, that most solemn of all feasts. In the course of the year, moreover, she unfolds the whole mystery of Christ. . . . Thus recalling the mysteries of the redemption, she opens up to the faithful the riches of her Lord's powers and merits, so that these are in some way made present in every age; the faithful lay hold of them and are filled with saving grace."

CCC 1164 From the time of the Mosaic law, the People of God have observed fixed feasts, beginning with Passover, to commemorate the astonishing actions of the Saviour God, to give him thanks for them, to perpetuate their remembrance, and to teach new generations to conform their conduct to them. In the age of the Church, between the Passover of Christ already accomplished once for all, and its consummation in the kingdom of God, the liturgy celebrated on fixed days bears the imprint of the newness of the mystery of Christ.

CCC 1165 When the Church celebrates the mystery of Christ, there is a word that marks her prayer: "Today!" - a word echoing the prayer her Lord taught her and the call of the Holy Spirit. This "today" of the living God which man is called to enter is "the hour" of Jesus' Passover, which reaches across and underlies all history: Life extends over all beings and fills them with unlimited light; the Orient of orients pervades the universe, and he who was "before the daystar" and before the heavenly bodies, immortal and vast, the great Christ, shines over all beings more brightly than the sun. Therefore a day of long, eternal light is ushered in for us who believe in him, a day which is never blotted out: the mystical Passover.


CCC 1166 "By a tradition handed down from the apostles which took its origin from the very day of Christ's Resurrection, the Church celebrates the Paschal mystery every seventh day, which day is appropriately called the Lord's Day or Sunday." The day of Christ's Resurrection is both the first day of the week, the memorial of the first day of creation, and the "eighth day," on which Christ after his "rest" on the great sabbath inaugurates the "day that the Lord has made," the "day that knows no evening." The Lord's Supper is its centre, for there the whole community of the faithful encounters the risen Lord who invites them to his banquet: The Lord's day, the day of Resurrection, the day of Christians, is our day. It is called the Lord's day because on it the Lord rose victorious to the Father. If pagans call it the "day of the sun," we willingly agree, for today the light of the world is raised, today is revealed the sun of justice with healing in his rays.

CCC 1167 Sunday is the pre-eminent day for the liturgical assembly, when the faithful gather "to listen to the word of God and take part in the Eucharist, thus calling to mind the Passion, Resurrection, and glory of the Lord Jesus, and giving thanks to God who 'has begotten them again, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead' unto a living hope": When we ponder, O Christ, the marvels accomplished on this day, the Sunday of your holy resurrection, we say: "Blessed is Sunday, for on it began creation . . . the world's salvation . . . the renewal of the human race. . . . On Sunday heaven and earth rejoiced and the whole universe was filled with light. Blessed is Sunday, for on it were opened the gates of paradise so that Adam and all the exiles might enter it without fear.

CCC 1168 Beginning with the Easter Triduum as its source of light, the new age of the Resurrection fills the whole liturgical year with its brilliance. Gradually, on either side of this source, the year is transfigured by the liturgy. It really is a "year of the Lord's favour." The economy of salvation is at work within the framework of time, but since its fulfilment in the Passover of Jesus and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the culmination of history is anticipated "as a foretaste," and the kingdom of God enters into our time.

... there's more.
 
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Perhaps we can return to the thread's topic.

What are we to do respecting the Ten Commandments?​

He who loves has fulfilled the Decalogue (Ro 13:8, 10).

The Decalogue is fulfilled by the two great commandments (Mt 22:37-40).
 
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Without a first day there can be no seventh day.
I never said there was no first day. There is no first day to keep holy in the Ten Commandments. God said the seventh day we are to keep holy Exo 20:10 all other days are days for works and labors Exo 20:9 thus saith the Lord written on the Authority of God.

We are told over and over not to edit His Word.
Yet the Church keeps the first day and has since the beginning. It is the Jews who keep the seventh day. For them keeping the seventh day is part of the ancient Israelite religion from which modern Judaism arose after the destruction of Jerusalem and the deportation of the Jews from Judea in 135 AD. Christians keep the Lord's day, which is Sunday.
No, it wasn't just the Jews who kept the Sabbath.

Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man. Mark 2:27 and for everyone Isa 56:6 Man was made on the first day Gen 1:26 in the image of Christ to be followers of Christ, not to do something different which is really rebellion. God rested on the seventh day Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11 Heb 4:4 man was commanded to do the same Exo 20:8-11 Heb 4:10

Why we see both the Jew and Gentiles keeping every Sabbath along with the apostles

Acts 13:42 [a]So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

So the apostles could have corrected them and said now we worship on day 1 instead of keeping the Sabbath when the Gentiles begged to be preached the gospel on the next Sabbath instead of asking for the next day- day 1 preaching.

But did they do so?

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Of course not, because the apostles kept the Sabbath in the same manner Christ did Luke 4:16-17, because that is what a Christian does- they are a followers of Christ. 1 John 2:6

Why both Jews and Gentiles were keeping every Sabbath

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

You must know that this is not the truth.


Keeping the first day, Sunday, is the work of the apostles and their teaching.

CCC 1163 "Holy Mother Church believes that she should celebrate the saving work of her divine Spouse in a sacred commemoration on certain days throughout the course of the year. Once each week, on the day which she has called the Lord's Day, she keeps the memory of the Lord's resurrection. She also celebrates it once every year, together with his blessed Passion, at Easter, that most solemn of all feasts. In the course of the year, moreover, she unfolds the whole mystery of Christ. . . . Thus recalling the mysteries of the redemption, she opens up to the faithful the riches of her Lord's powers and merits, so that these are in some way made present in every age; the faithful lay hold of them and are filled with saving grace."

CCC 1164 From the time of the Mosaic law, the People of God have observed fixed feasts, beginning with Passover, to commemorate the astonishing actions of the Saviour God, to give him thanks for them, to perpetuate their remembrance, and to teach new generations to conform their conduct to them. In the age of the Church, between the Passover of Christ already accomplished once for all, and its consummation in the kingdom of God, the liturgy celebrated on fixed days bears the imprint of the newness of the mystery of Christ.

CCC 1165 When the Church celebrates the mystery of Christ, there is a word that marks her prayer: "Today!" - a word echoing the prayer her Lord taught her and the call of the Holy Spirit. This "today" of the living God which man is called to enter is "the hour" of Jesus' Passover, which reaches across and underlies all history: Life extends over all beings and fills them with unlimited light; the Orient of orients pervades the universe, and he who was "before the daystar" and before the heavenly bodies, immortal and vast, the great Christ, shines over all beings more brightly than the sun. Therefore a day of long, eternal light is ushered in for us who believe in him, a day which is never blotted out: the mystical Passover.


CCC 1166 "By a tradition handed down from the apostles which took its origin from the very day of Christ's Resurrection, the Church celebrates the Paschal mystery every seventh day, which day is appropriately called the Lord's Day or Sunday." The day of Christ's Resurrection is both the first day of the week, the memorial of the first day of creation, and the "eighth day," on which Christ after his "rest" on the great sabbath inaugurates the "day that the Lord has made," the "day that knows no evening." The Lord's Supper is its centre, for there the whole community of the faithful encounters the risen Lord who invites them to his banquet: The Lord's day, the day of Resurrection, the day of Christians, is our day. It is called the Lord's day because on it the Lord rose victorious to the Father. If pagans call it the "day of the sun," we willingly agree, for today the light of the world is raised, today is revealed the sun of justice with healing in his rays.

CCC 1167 Sunday is the pre-eminent day for the liturgical assembly, when the faithful gather "to listen to the word of God and take part in the Eucharist, thus calling to mind the Passion, Resurrection, and glory of the Lord Jesus, and giving thanks to God who 'has begotten them again, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead' unto a living hope": When we ponder, O Christ, the marvels accomplished on this day, the Sunday of your holy resurrection, we say: "Blessed is Sunday, for on it began creation . . . the world's salvation . . . the renewal of the human race. . . . On Sunday heaven and earth rejoiced and the whole universe was filled with light. Blessed is Sunday, for on it were opened the gates of paradise so that Adam and all the exiles might enter it without fear.

CCC 1168 Beginning with the Easter Triduum as its source of light, the new age of the Resurrection fills the whole liturgical year with its brilliance. Gradually, on either side of this source, the year is transfigured by the liturgy. It really is a "year of the Lord's favour." The economy of salvation is at work within the framework of time, but since its fulfilment in the Passover of Jesus and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the culmination of history is anticipated "as a foretaste," and the kingdom of God enters into our time.

... there's more.
I follow God's Word- your church claims its above God's Word, which essentially is saying they are above God. I do not believe that is going to work out so well. Why Jesus is calling His people out of their rebellion Heb 3:7-8 Rev 18:4 before its too late Rev 22:11
 
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You know that the passage doesn't say "Decalogue" so why misquote it?

Same here, "Decalogue" isn't in the text.
The Bible also doesn't say "God is Trinity" or "God is sovereign", but he is both.

This is much too amateurish for Xeno.
 
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I never said there was no first day. There is no first day to keep holy in the Ten Commandments. God said the seventh day we are to keep holy Exo 20:10 all other days are days for works and labors Exo 20:9 thus saith the Lord written on the Authority of God.
We do not keep the seventh day, we keep the first as the apostles taught : Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and he prolonged his speech until midnight.
No, it wasn't just the Jews who kept the Sabbath.
It is the Jews who keep it, and a few others such as Seventh Day Baptists and Seventh Day Adventists. No one else does as far as I know, except maybe "messianic christians"
I follow God's Word- your church claims its above God's Word
This is wrong on at least two grounds, first "God's word" isn't the same thing as "holy scripture" and the second thing is that the Catholic Church does not claim and never has claimed to be "above God's Word".
 
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The Bible also doesn't say "God is Trinity" or "God is sovereign", but he is both.

This is much too amateurish for Xeno.
If you do not want to stick with what is written then just say so, admit that your religion is built on personal interpretations created on an ad-hoc basis.
 
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If you do not want to stick with what is written then just say so,
If you don't want to stick with the "Trinity," just say so. . .

Xeno, help!!!

Where are you?

The amateurs have taken over!
 
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We do not keep the seventh day, we keep the first as the apostles taught : Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and he prolonged his speech until midnight.
No where does it say anything about a change in the Sabbath in Acts 20:7. The apostles broke bread everyday Acts 2:46, this was a late Saturday evening meeting the apostles were already gathered as they kept every Sabbath Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 this was after sunset on Saturdays evening on the first day because Paul was departing in the morning.

It doesn't say its a new day of worship or a new Sabbath. Best not to add what is not there. Not sure why you are trying to make a biblical argument when your church claims there is none, it was changed based on their authority.
It is the Jews who keep it, and a few others such as Seventh Day Baptists and Seventh Day Adventists. No one else does as far as I know, except maybe "messianic christians"
And God Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3, Jesus Luke 4:16 John 15:10 and the apostles Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 which is why it remains for the people of God Heb 4:9NIV Rev 14:12
This is wrong on at least two grounds, first "God's word" isn't the same thing as "holy scripture" and the second thing is that the Catholic Church does not claim and never has claimed to be "above God's Word".
Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'
—Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

The bible is God's Word and to be the path that guides us, nothing else. Psa 119:105
 
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