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what are the best source of protein for Vegetarians?

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what are the best source of protein for Vegetarians?
Hunza recipe bread, but no one makes it any more. Someone did, and it was perfect food for most people, resulting in unexpected healthy changes welcome,
but because of complaints from other companies, it was deep sixed. /put to an end/....
 
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If you are allowed to drink milk, then milk.

Dark chocolate / cocoa is also excellent source of protein so it would be a good thing to replace your coffee addiction with hot chocolate drinks. Cocoa still have a bit of caffeine in it but barely as much as coffee.

You may think you need coffee to stay awake / alert / focused but this boost come in 'spikes' so you feel drained after the 'boosted feeling' so you get another cup. I've quit coffee for many years now and I can stay focused and alert for longer without those highs and lows and saving a lot of money too!

I may drink coffee in very rare occasions but I always do it at night because after the 'boost', I get real sleepy. Coffee helps me to sleep!^_^
 
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Beans and whole grains tend to have the most protein, and product made from them, such as tofu or tempeh. You can also buy mock-meats made from isolated or refined plant protein, and those tend to be higher in protein as well.

Most plant foods have some amount of protein in them. Even foods like mushrooms or broccoli have a fair amount of protein relative to their total calories. As long as you are eating a variety of foods in sufficient amounts, you should get enough protein. I would only recommend worrying about protein if you are on a calorie-restricted diet, or you're raising kids or recovering from an injury or surgery.

Beans have other benefits, such as being associated with bone and gut health, and populations that consume alot of beans tend to live longer than those that eat fewer beans. So it's good to include beans every day in a vegetarian or vegan diet.
 
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Beans and whole grains tend to have the most protein, and product made from them, such as tofu or tempeh.

I eat these a lot. Whole grains especially from oatmeal and snacks I make from whole wheat flour and also beans. Add cocoa to the list of non-meat high protein sources I eat.

I still eat meat but much greater portions in non-meat foods. I do intense exercises and needed the protein and do get them mostly from plant-based foods and milk.
 
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All the protein we need can come from food we have from plants. You might get more protein but it isn't needed. Protein is overrated and little information is put out about real problems coming from having too much protein, which is really possible. Just those certain vitamins are something to get supplements or fortified foods for, especially the B12, which anyone and not just vegans can really be in need for. Protein is not the issue with it.
 
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Sacrifice of animals must be regarded as obsolete, and we do not need animals killed for us, God regards abuse of animals as wickedness, and eating animal products is not even as healthy for us, with cancers, heart attacks, and strokes, and many other issues possible that whole food plant-based eating by itself works against. God actually would want what is better for us, not to make us worse which having animal products still would be doing.

At least 70% of the birds on earth are poultry that humans raise for food. 94% of non-human mammal biomass is livestock. This means livestock outweigh wild mammals by a factor of 15-to-1.3 This is 97% when only land-based mammals are included.
“Mass extinction has already begun and three-quarters of all species could disappear.” The Extinction Crisis is Far Worse than You Think

I know God hates the destructiveness to God's creation here on this Earth. Animal agriculture is a huge cause of the loss of forests and further natural environments and takes much more resources, land and water, for supplying farm animals that consume nutrients and are slaughtered and then there are all those among us who get their nutrients. It would be so much more efficient and having less demand to have food being grown and all the nutrients we need had from that.
Revelation 11:18
Proverbs 12:10
 
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I know God hates the destructiveness to God's creation here on this Earth. Animal agriculture is a huge cause of the loss of forests and further natural environments and takes much more resources, land and water, for supplying farm animals that consume nutrients and are slaughtered and then there are all those among us who get their nutrients. It would be so much more efficient and having less demand to have food being grown and all the nutrients we need had from that.
How do you figure that growing food plants isn't going require the same destruction of forests and further natural environments? How do you figure that irrigating west Texas or central Africa for farming isn't going to require more resources than simply letting cattle graze on the natural grasses?
 
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I eat these a lot. Whole grains especially from oatmeal and snacks I make from whole wheat flour and also beans. Add cocoa to the list of non-meat high protein sources I eat.

I still eat meat but much greater portions in non-meat foods. I do intense exercises and needed the protein and do get them mostly from plant-based foods and milk.

The average person actually gets most of their protein from plants already, even in wealthier nations that eat more meat.

The United States is an outlier among developed nations in the volume of meat consumed. Quite a bit more than even in Europe.

One ominous sign for the environment is that beef consumption is increasing in China and Japan. Crops like alfalfa are being grown and exported from the US to supply demand for cattle feed, despite the fact that alfalfa crops drain alot of water from the Colorado river. Saudi Arabia even owns alfalfa farms in the southern US.
 
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How do you figure that growing food plants isn't going require the same destruction of forests and further natural environments? How do you figure that irrigating west Texas or central Africa for farming isn't going to require more resources than simply letting cattle graze on the natural grasses?
In many countries around the world, grasslands did not come naturally.

They had to turn forests into grasslands by cutting down lots of trees.

Below is google map image of an area 40 km across somewhere under Hamilton city in New Zealand. The whole area you're seeing could have easily supported tree growth and forested area with long rainy seasons and generally mild climate in NZ.

But they've turned most of the area below into grasslands for sheep, goat, and cattle grazing (light green areas). Patches of dark green areas are trees / small patches of forested areas.

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It would be better if a grassland is turned into a forest IF the climate supports it. To help mitigate flooding during extreme weather and forests are just better than grasslands from a climate perspective.
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The average person actually gets most of their protein from plants already, even in wealthier nations that eat more meat.

The United States is an outlier among developed nations in the volume of meat consumed. Quite a bit more than even in Europe.

One ominous sign for the environment is that beef consumption is increasing in China and Japan. Crops like alfalfa are being grown and exported from the US to supply demand for cattle feed, despite the fact that alfalfa crops drain alot of water from the Colorado river. Saudi Arabia even owns alfalfa farms in the southern US.

There is no free ride for meat. Although I still eat meat, most of my meat source is fish and only in small quantities.

The protein quantity of my diet is rather small for the volume of exercise I'm doing. I discovered you don't need lots of protein. The body can adapt to recycle damaged tissues and also to protect living tissue, including muscle tissues from damage or consumption if you're also trained to exercise under ketosis or in a fasted state.
 
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In many countries around the world, grasslands did not come naturally.

They had to turn forests into grasslands by cutting down lots of trees.

Below is google map image of an area 40 km across somewhere under Hamilton city in New Zealand. The whole area you're seeing could have easily supported tree growth and forested area with long rainy seasons and generally mild climate in NZ.

But they've turned most of the area below into grasslands for sheep, goat, and cattle grazing (light green areas). Patches of dark green areas are trees / small patches of forested areas.



It would be better if a grassland is turned into a forest IF the climate supports it. To help mitigate flooding during extreme weather and forests are just better than grasslands from a climate perspective.
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My point is that food crops can't be grown in forests, so feeding the world with plants doesn't mean there will be more forests, either. However, grasslands for cattle don't even have to be irrigated in many places.
 
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My point is that food crops can't be grown in forests, so feeding the world with plants doesn't mean there will be more forests, either. However, grasslands for cattle don't even have to be irrigated in many places.

It's the same problem with forests I know. Growing crops and livestock raising requires mowing down forests.

However, numerous studies demonstrate that livestock industry contributes to far more pollution and greenhouse gas than crop growing.

Here is one of them with references at the bottom of the page:
 
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It's the same problem with forests I know. Growing crops and livestock raising requires mowing down forests.

However, numerous studies demonstrate that livestock industry contributes to far more pollution and greenhouse gas than crop growing.

There's just way too many people that everything we do will wreck the planet one way or the other.
Can't really "wreck" the planet...the planet's going to be here. We'll just make it uncomfortable for us and a few other species. But those who fit the new situation will go on.

I'm of the camp that humanity cannot change the course of climate events at this point, and certainly there is no global political will to do so even if we can. So, realistically we'd better figure out how to "weather" the changes.
 
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Can't really "wreck" the planet...the planet's going to be here.
This is a wreck and the ship is still there, it's even above water and mostly intact, engines and all. But no longer useful to its human owners.
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I'm of the camp that humanity cannot change the course of climate events at this point, and certainly there is no global political will to do so even if we can. So, realistically we'd better figure out how to "weather" the changes.
True. But you can at least do to your own community or your family or even your own body (if you have no family) the change you want the world to be.

It may not affect the whole world at all but will have a huge effect on your body.
 
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