what are the best source of protein for Vegetarians?

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beans combined with grains are better than just beans alone. You don't need to concentrate on proteins, it's the essential amino acids that are important. You can actually consume too much protein even on a vegetarian diet. Careful with protein drinks, If your have weak kidneys, and most people have no idea if they do until something goes wrong, too much of those protein powders can cause your kidneys to shut down. It happened to several people I know who went on high protein diet shakes.

There are many lists on the internet. Here's just one of them.

Food Amount Calories Protein Notes

Nuts and Seeds

Pumpkin/squash seeds 1 oz, 85 seeds 126 cal 5 gm all aa in proper ratio

Black walnuts 1 oz 173 cal 7 gm low in lysine

Pine nuts 1 oz, 167 kernels 190 cal 4 gm low in lysine

Roasted almonds 1 oz, 22 count 171 cal 6gm low in lysine and methionine

Pistachios 1 oz 49 count 161 cal 6gm all aa in proper ratio

Sunflower seeds 1 oz 166 cal 5 gm low in lysine

Peanuts without shells 1 oz 160 cal 7 gm low in lysine

Cashews 1 oz 18 kernels 164 cal 4 gm all aa in proper ratio

Hemp seeds 2 T 160 cal 11gm all aa in proper ratio

Flax seeds 1 T 100 cal 4 gm



Dairy Products

Ricotta cheese lowfat ½ c 171 cal 14 gm all aa high in lysine

Romano cheese 1 oz 108 cal 9 gm all aa in proper ratio

Cheddar cheese 1 oz 113 cal 7 gm all aa in proper ratio

Provolone cheese 1 oz 98 cal 7 gm all aa high in lysine

Mozzarella 1 oz 71 cal 7 gm all aa high in lysine

Parmesan 1 oz 116 cal 7 gm all aa high in lysine

Gouda cheese 1 oz 100 cal 8 gm all aa high in lysine

Swiss cheese 1 oz 100 cal 8gm all aa high in lysine

Feta cheese ½ c crumbled 200 cal 21 gm all aa

Cottage cheese 2% low fat 1 cup 163 cal 28 gm all aa

Egg 1 whole 77 cal 6 gm all aa

Egg whites 1 whole 16 cal 4 gm all aa

Milk 1 cup 137 cal 10 gm all aa

Yogurt low fat 1 cup 137 cal 14 gm low in tryptophan



Vegetables

Corn yellow canned 2/3 cup 80 cal 3 gm high in lysine

Sun-dried tomatoes ½ cup (1 oz) 72 cal 4 gm lacks 5 aa

Soy beans 1 oz 35 cal 4 gm all aa, but a little low in methionine+cystine, phenylalanine+tyrosine

Cowpeas (blackeyes) 2 oz 74 cal 4 gm all aa

Navy beans 4 oz 88 cal 8 gm all aa, low in methionine + cystine

Peas 4 oz 108 cal 8 gm all aa except no trypotophan

Lima beans 4 oz cal 88 cal 5 gm all aa, low in methionine + cystine

Brussel sprouts 1 cup 65 cal 6 gm. low in leucine, lysine, methionine + cystine, phenylalanine + tyrosine

Spinach 1 cup chopped 65 cal 6 gm low in methionine + cystine

Broccoli 1 cup spears 52 cal 6 gm low in methionine + cystine

Potato 1 med with skin 161 cal 4 gm all aa in proper ratio

Asparagus ½ cup 20 cal 2 gm all aa in proper ratio


Fruits

Apricots dried ½ cup 190 cal 3 gm low in methionine + cystine

Peaches dried ½ cup 185 cal 3 gm low in trptophan and lysine



Cereal, bread, grains and pasta

Oat bran 1 oz 59 cal 5 gm low in lysine

Oats 1 oz 109 cal 5 gm low in lysine

Wheat flour 1 oz 95 cal 4 gm low in lysine

Spaghetti, whole wheat dry 2 oz 198 cal 8 gm low in lysine

Egg noodles dry 2 oz 219 cal 8 gm low in lysine

Buckwheat 1 oz 96 cal 4 gm all aa in proper ratio

Couscous dry 1 oz 105 cal 4 gm low in lysine

Bulgur dry 1 oz 96 cal 3 gm low in lysine

Millet raw 1 oz 106 cal 3 gm low in lysine

Bread, pumpernickel 1 slice 65 cal 2 gm low in lysine

Bread, reduced cal white 1 slice 48 cal 2 gm low in lysine

Rice, brown long grain cooked 1 cup 216 cal 5 gm low in lysine

White rice, cooked 1 cup 194 cal 4 gm low in lysine

Whole wheat bread 1 slice 69 cal 4 gm low in all aa except tryptophan

White bread 1 slice 67 cal 2 gm low in lysine

Oatmeal bread 1 slice 73 cal 2 gm low in lysine

Rye bread 1 slice 83 cal 2 gm low in lysine

Whole wheat pita bread 4” diameter 74 cal 3 gm low in lysine

Pita white enriched 4” diameter 77 cal 3 gm low in lysine



Combination suggestions

If low in lysine- Combine with ricotta, provolone, gouda, mozzarella, parmesan, gruyere, swiss cheese, soy, tuna, salmon

If low in tryptophan- Combine with oat bran, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, black walnuts, sunflower seeds, cashews, pistachios, almonds, cod, tuna

If low in methionine + cystine, :phenylalanine + tyrosine combine with chestnuts, brazil nuts, halibut, oatmeal, sesame seeds, oat bran, eggs

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Hey, thanks fer posting in it...otherwise i would've never seen it :D

Great information in this thread :D

You're welcome. This might help you even more. The list is overall but if one is going Vegan or Veggie, one can focus on the plant base source of protein.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/04/01/10-best-foods-for-muscle-growth.html

Here are the top 10 foods for muscle growth.

10. Quinoa

Reality check: Not all men eat meat. But without meat, how can you get that precious protein? Look no further than quinoa, a protein-packed grain native to South America. Not only is quinoa high in protein, but the protein it supplies is also complete, meaning that it contains all nine of the essential amino acids. This gluten-free food is also easy to digest and is high in fiber, magnesium and iron. No wonder the ancient Incas called quinoa the mother of all grains!

9. Almonds

Almonds are another plant-based food absolutely packed full of protein. Just 1/4 cup of almonds contains nearly 8 grams of protein -- that’s nearly 2 grams of protein more than your typical egg! Almonds are also an excellent source of heart-healthy monounsaturated fats and magnesium. Magnesium is an abundant mineral that’s used in more than 300 biochemical reactions in the body and is specifically known to be involved in energy metabolism and protein synthesis.

8. Cottage cheese

It may sound surprising, but most serious bodybuilders include cottage cheese among their top muscle-building foods. To understand why, simply read the label of your typical low-fat or fat-free cottage cheese. Just 1/2 cup of low-fat cottage cheese packs a whopping 14 grams of protein in only 80 calories with less than 2 grams of fat. Trust us, this one’s a winner.

7. Oysters

Although not the best-known muscle-building food, oysters are another secret specialty of weight lifters and bodybuilders alike. Just 100 grams of cooked Pacific oysters yield upward of 20 grams of protein with only five grams of fat. Oysters also provide more zinc than any other food. Like magnesium, zinc is another mineral that’s essential for protein synthesis, making oysters a top food for muscle growth.

6. Chocolate Milk

Ever since we were young lads, men have constantly been reminded of the importance of milk to a growing body. But even as adult males, milk remains just as important. Because milk is an animal food, it provides all the essential amino acids while offering very little fat (especially skim milk). The benefit of milk to muscles is even greater considering that it mixes so well with whey protein. Just take a look at Shamrock Farms Rockin’ Refuel -- which packs 20 grams of protein in 100 percent real milk in delicious chocolate, strawberry and vanilla flavors -- if you want a prime example of a great-tasting, muscle-building beverage.

5. Lean ground beef

Red meats, like lean ground beef, are an excellent source of protein, so completely avoiding them because of the "red" stigma might be a mistake. Just 100 grams of lean ground beef contains upward of 27 grams of protein! Although such a serving is also high-fat (it contains 11 grams of fat and around 200-plus calories) what separates beef from its other meat competitors are all the additional vitamins and minerals it contains. Beef is teeming with vitamin B12, zinc and iron -- all of which are important for muscle growth and development.

4. Soy

Whether served as edamame, tofu or soy milk, the muscle-building benefits of the soybean simply cannot be paralleled by any other plant source. As one of the few plant sources that provide complete protein, soy packs its protein in style. Just one cup of cooked soybeans contains over 20 grams of amino acids. Soy is also stacked with other important vitamins and minerals, making this meat alternative one of the healthiest muscle-building foods around.

3. Eggs

Quick and easy to prepare, delicious and fun to eat, eggs are a key dietary component of any muscle-minded male. Each egg comes loaded with around five to six grams of protein at the very low caloric cost of only 60 calories. But it’s not just the amount of protein that makes eggs so special, it’s also the type: Egg protein is considered to be the most readily utilizable protein with the highest biological value of any whole food. This means that the protein in eggs is used most efficiently for muscular growth.

2. Chicken

What can we say about chicken that hasn’t already been said? Chicken is the staple muscle-building food. A nice, lean 100-gram slab of this white meat will fill you with a hearty serving of 31 grams of protein with only -- wait for it -- four grams of fat. So, as far as protein-to-fat ratio is concerned, you’re looking at a superstar. Combine chicken’s great taste and its meal versatility and there’s really no arguing that chicken belongs among the top muscle-building foods.

1. Fish

When it comes to building muscle, fish really crushes the competition. Take salmon, for example. Not only is salmon a protein powerhouse yielding around 25 grams of protein per 100-gram serving, but it’s also packed with so many other healthy nutrients that you’d be a fool to avoid it. Salmon is loaded with heart-healthy monounsaturated fats and omega-3 fatty acids. It’s also an excellent source of vitamin D, a current media darling. All in all, fish, such as tuna or salmon, are simply the best.






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You're welcome. This might help you even more. The list is overall but if one is going Vegan or Veggie, one can focus on the plant base source of protein.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/04/01/10-best-foods-for-muscle-growth.html

Here are the top 10 foods for muscle growth.

10. Quinoa

Reality check: Not all men eat meat. But without meat, how can you get that precious protein? Look no further than quinoa, a protein-packed grain native to South America. Not only is quinoa high in protein, but the protein it supplies is also complete, meaning that it contains all nine of the essential amino acids. This gluten-free food is also easy to digest and is high in fiber, magnesium and iron. No wonder the ancient Incas called quinoa the mother of all grains!

9. Almonds

Almonds are another plant-based food absolutely packed full of protein. Just 1/4 cup of almonds contains nearly 8 grams of protein -- that’s nearly 2 grams of protein more than your typical egg! Almonds are also an excellent source of heart-healthy monounsaturated fats and magnesium. Magnesium is an abundant mineral that’s used in more than 300 biochemical reactions in the body and is specifically known to be involved in energy metabolism and protein synthesis.

8. Cottage cheese

It may sound surprising, but most serious bodybuilders include cottage cheese among their top muscle-building foods. To understand why, simply read the label of your typical low-fat or fat-free cottage cheese. Just 1/2 cup of low-fat cottage cheese packs a whopping 14 grams of protein in only 80 calories with less than 2 grams of fat. Trust us, this one’s a winner.

7. Oysters

Although not the best-known muscle-building food, oysters are another secret specialty of weight lifters and bodybuilders alike. Just 100 grams of cooked Pacific oysters yield upward of 20 grams of protein with only five grams of fat. Oysters also provide more zinc than any other food. Like magnesium, zinc is another mineral that’s essential for protein synthesis, making oysters a top food for muscle growth.

6. Chocolate Milk

Ever since we were young lads, men have constantly been reminded of the importance of milk to a growing body. But even as adult males, milk remains just as important. Because milk is an animal food, it provides all the essential amino acids while offering very little fat (especially skim milk). The benefit of milk to muscles is even greater considering that it mixes so well with whey protein. Just take a look at Shamrock Farms Rockin’ Refuel -- which packs 20 grams of protein in 100 percent real milk in delicious chocolate, strawberry and vanilla flavors -- if you want a prime example of a great-tasting, muscle-building beverage.

5. Lean ground beef

Red meats, like lean ground beef, are an excellent source of protein, so completely avoiding them because of the "red" stigma might be a mistake. Just 100 grams of lean ground beef contains upward of 27 grams of protein! Although such a serving is also high-fat (it contains 11 grams of fat and around 200-plus calories) what separates beef from its other meat competitors are all the additional vitamins and minerals it contains. Beef is teeming with vitamin B12, zinc and iron -- all of which are important for muscle growth and development.

4. Soy

Whether served as edamame, tofu or soy milk, the muscle-building benefits of the soybean simply cannot be paralleled by any other plant source. As one of the few plant sources that provide complete protein, soy packs its protein in style. Just one cup of cooked soybeans contains over 20 grams of amino acids. Soy is also stacked with other important vitamins and minerals, making this meat alternative one of the healthiest muscle-building foods around.

3. Eggs

Quick and easy to prepare, delicious and fun to eat, eggs are a key dietary component of any muscle-minded male. Each egg comes loaded with around five to six grams of protein at the very low caloric cost of only 60 calories. But it’s not just the amount of protein that makes eggs so special, it’s also the type: Egg protein is considered to be the most readily utilizable protein with the highest biological value of any whole food. This means that the protein in eggs is used most efficiently for muscular growth.

2. Chicken

What can we say about chicken that hasn’t already been said? Chicken is the staple muscle-building food. A nice, lean 100-gram slab of this white meat will fill you with a hearty serving of 31 grams of protein with only -- wait for it -- four grams of fat. So, as far as protein-to-fat ratio is concerned, you’re looking at a superstar. Combine chicken’s great taste and its meal versatility and there’s really no arguing that chicken belongs among the top muscle-building foods.

1. Fish

When it comes to building muscle, fish really crushes the competition. Take salmon, for example. Not only is salmon a protein powerhouse yielding around 25 grams of protein per 100-gram serving, but it’s also packed with so many other healthy nutrients that you’d be a fool to avoid it. Salmon is loaded with heart-healthy monounsaturated fats and omega-3 fatty acids. It’s also an excellent source of vitamin D, a current media darling. All in all, fish, such as tuna or salmon, are simply the best.






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what are the best source of protein for Vegetarians?

Giving up vegetarianism and eating chicken and steak :)

I kid, I kid :)

Your best bet is probably going to be nuts, seeds, beans.

With the exception of Kale (and even that only has 3g of protein per cup), not much in the fruit & veggie world is going to give you the kind of protein counts that a person would typically be able to get from meat.

I do have some friends who are vegetarian/vegan that I train with at the gym...the vegetarians will usually intake quite a bit of egg whites to hit their protein numbers, the vegans I know use hemp & soy protein supplements and beans to get most of their protein in.

The downside of vegan friendly sources of protein is that they often times come with quite a few carbs which...if you're just lifting for raw size & power might not be a bad thing, but trying to get lean (while retaining muscle mass) while doing that is going to be very tough.
 
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Animal products are not needed at all for having enough protein, this is widely not understood, as contrary information has been spread, over the years, in our commercial world. We can have all the essential amino acids for it with plant-based eating with normal variety of whole food items, and also contrary to the thinking of many all the essential amino acids don't have to come in the same meal, with including legumes and nuts and whole grains along with colorful fruits and vegetables there does not even need to be thought to how they should be combined, for nutrition needs. The protein from animal products comes with things that are adverse to our health. We don't need to support the horrible treatment of animals going on, with our choices. The great thing for changing from that are great tasty meals, even easy to make ones, that we can have, that are whole food along with being plant-based, that would be so healthy for us, even the very healthiest. See www.forksoverknives.com for helpful information to easily transition to that.
 
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Depending on the type of vegetarian one is, the best single source of protein would be egg whites.

I wonder why you were posting here, where this is for vegetarians, and I don't see anything that shows you are vegetarian. Aside from that, sperm would have much protein. If you say egg is the best for protein, that isn't true at all, unless you would value something for protein and not care about anything else about it. Having a lot more protein is not really to be desired as there can be problems to health from that. But egg can't even be called healthy now legally by that industry, it is quite unhealthy, with health risks from it over time. But with being vegetarian, as some are, I would ask for what reason choose being vegetarian? Why still choose having products of reproduction? For any issue that there is seen, which there clearly is, to choose being vegetarian, that is still an inadequate resonse, when there is no good reason to keep having any animal products, and great reason, for health or any of the issues, to give up all animal products. The link I posted might not even be looked at, but I mention it again and maybe it will be looked at.
 
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I wonder why you were posting here, where this is for vegetarians, and I don't see anything that shows you are vegetarian. Aside from that, sperm would have much protein. If you say egg is the best for protein, that isn't true at all, unless you would value something for protein and not care about anything else about it. Having a lot more protein is not really to be desired as there can be problems to health from that. But egg can't even be called healthy now legally by that industry, it is quite unhealthy, with health risks from it over time. But with being vegetarian, as some are, I would ask for what reason choose being vegetarian? Why still choose having products of reproduction? For any issue that there is seen, which there clearly is, to choose being vegetarian, that is still an inadequate resonse, when there is no good reason to keep having any animal products, and great reason, for health or any of the issues, to give up all animal products. The link I posted might not even be looked at, but I mention it again and maybe it will be looked at.

It really isnt about protein, it is about consuming the right amino acids, that allows the body to manufacture proteins.

Egg whites and the whey portion of milk, contain all the essential amino acids, that the body needs to manufacture any protein it needs. If one can not eat meat, egg whites and whey, you can still get all the essential amino acids, but it just becomes much more challenging.
 
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Why post here, when this place is for discussion between vegetarians and vegans, and you don't show that you are giving up any animal products? It isn't desirable to argue about it with one who doesn't do that, in this place. But it is a general urban myth these days that it is complicated to live with this change, and that there must be a certain right combination carefully managed in any meal. It is not that way at all. All the amino acids are available from natural plant-based food, with variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, and grains, they will all be had, and all the amino acids don't even have to be together in the same meal. The site wasn't looked at, this is showing that there is the very healthiest way of eating possible with this, and it is shown how easy and how delicious it can be, while still so very much more healthy.
 
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I do vegan cooking quite often, and try to avoid soy. These have become my favorite ways to add a little protein into the meals:
Lentils: These are a really good substitute for dishes that usually use ground beef. Pasta sauce, tacos, sloppy joes. They're also good in soups or chili, or added to a green salad. I recommend soaking and/or sprouting them before cooking.
Black beans: I usually just put these on a green salad or make a veggie chili. Again, recommend soaking before using them if you're buying dry beans.
Hummus: A good dip for raw veggies or pita bread, good to spread on wraps or sandwiches, also pretty tasty mixed in a bean and rice bowl!
Avocado: Also a good source of healthy fats! Great by themselves with a little salt and pepper, smashed onto toast, mixed in a salad, on top of chili instead of sour cream.
Hemp hearts: Super easy way to add extra protein to a dish. I sprinkle them on top of salads, in cereal, in oatmeal, and on top of pasta.
Flaxseed meal: A really good substitute for eggs when you're baking, and adds protein!
Almonds: Grab a handful and eat them, or ground into almond meal as a substitute for flour in baked goods, or processed into almond butter.
Pumpkin and sunflower seeds: Great by themselves, or added as a salad topping.
Chia seeds: I usually make a chia seed pudding with plant protein milk and bananas, or soak the chia seeds in juice to add into smoothies.
Peanut butter: Go for a no-sugar-added version if you're worried about that!
Plant protein milk: This has a higher protein content than dairy milk, almond milk, or most soy milk. And the thickness is more comparable to vitamin D milk, which is what I was looking for!
Whole wheat bread: Toasted and topped with avocado, peanut butter, sunflower seed butter, or almond butter.
 
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I have been eating like this at least over four years, when I found out about how healthy whole food that is all plant-based is for all meals, and I was vegan for several years longer, and was vegetarian for half a dozen years more. I have black beans, lentils, or hummus in just about every meal, and hummus with other things, like sandwiches, besides. And I use those other items too, except for dropping peanuts out because of apparent sensitivity to them. All the grain I use is whole grain. And I use healthy condiments, including seaweed. I stay in good shape this way, with youthful energy not diminishing.
 
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Eggs and milk (organic, whole, grass-fed milk if possible).

Humans need some amount of animal protein and the vitamins and nutrients that are found only in animal products to be optimally healthy. (To be optimally healthy, not merely to survive.) Even supplements won't suffice longterm to replace animal products. (They're supplements to food, not replacements for foods.)

Humans haven't been pure vegetarians since the garden of Eden (Abel was the first shepherd mentioned in the Bible), and our bodies simply do not thrive longterm on a diet of plants the way they do on an omnivorous one, no matter how rich in healthy plant foods the diet is.

No matter what I or any nutritionist or the government recommends to you as far as diet goes, the most reliable expert on what is best for you personally is your own body. Pay attention to what it is telling you, trust its intuition, and don't deprive it of nutrients it's craving in order to follow some touted "perfect diet", no matter how "healthy" that diet is supposed to be.
 
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TLSITD said:
Eggs and milk (organic, whole, grass-fed milk if possible).

Humans need some amount of animal protein and the vitamins and nutrients that are found only in animal products to be optimally healthy. (To be optimally healthy, not merely to survive.) Even supplements won't suffice longterm to replace animal products. (They're supplements to food, not replacements for foods.)

Humans haven't been pure vegetarians since the garden of Eden (Abel was the first shepherd mentioned in the Bible), and our bodies simply do not thrive longterm on a diet of plants the way they do on an omnivorous one, no matter how rich in healthy plant foods the diet is.

No matter what I or any nutritionist or the government recommends to you as far as diet goes, the most reliable expert on what is best for you personally is your own body. Pay attention to what it is telling you, trust its intuition, and don't deprive it of nutrients it's craving in order to follow some touted "perfect diet", no matter how "healthy" that diet is supposed to be.

This is just all wrong. All of it. Eggs and dairy are not even healthy, those industries cannot even claim it with basis. And optimal health does not depend on animal products. There is not mere survival without animal products, people thrive without those. Anyone should get vitamin B12 supplements if they just get store bought food, it is too easy to not get enough otherwise, whether having animal products or not. This vitamin is only produced from some soil bacteria, animals and people can get the vitamin from food they get in natural environments, but any of the bacteria for it or the vitamin are missing from what animals used in the industry are fed.

In the Bible, no one was permitted meat from animals until after the global flood over fifteen hundred years after the first human people were cast away from the garden of Eden, though some wicked people probably started having meat when sacrifices of animals were happening.

I recently found this site I just came across, A Vegan Himalayan Tribe Has Existed for 5,000 Years | PETA.

Using marketed animal products is much worse, with animal agriculture being very destructive to the natural world and the global climate, and its use of a lot more resources.

God did not create sentient animal creatures in this world to just use as food continuously, they desire to live too, and feel and have terror of their oncoming death, use of food from them is NOT better for our health, and it is using a lot more resources and is worse for the environment. It simply is not according to the perfect will of God and God is not intending for use of animals for food to last, there are scriptures showing this and none showing it was to keep continuing.

See www.forksoverknives.com,
Plant-Based Diets and Environmental Sustainability.

Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge. Thanks to these doctors and researchers, along with an emerging body of scientific evidence from all corners, we now know that a whole-food, plant-based diet is more powerful at preventing and treating chronic diseases than any medication or procedure. We are so convinced by the evidence that we believe if this diet came in a pill, it would be heralded on the front pages of newspapers and magazines around the world for its effectiveness.

Here are just a few of the significant life-changing results you may expect:

Prevent and reverse the leading chronic ailments. A whole-food, plant-based diet can prevent, halt, and even reverse heart disease and diabetes. Other diseases that are also positively impacted by this type of diet include: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, and overall mortality. Cancer is also significantly affected by this diet. In fact, the foods that make up this diet are the exact same foods that were recommended in the first "surviving cancer" dietary recommendations. There is also evidence that a plant-based diet may reduce the risk of diverticular disease, gallstones, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and kidney disease. Furthermore, after switching to a plant-based diet, people routinely report experiencing or seeing in others improvements in a range of ailments, including osteoporosis, arthritis, headaches, acne, asthma, sexual dysfunction, reflux, lupus, inflammatory bowel disease, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, infertility, insomnia, and sleep apnea. They even find themselves experiencing fewer or less intense colds, viruses, and allergies.

Reach your ideal weight. Our friend Doug Lisle likes to point out that humans and their domesticated pets are the only earthly creatures that suffer from being overweight and obese ... in spite of the fact that we're also the only creatures who practice portion control! Why is this the case? It's simple. All the other animals on earth are eating foods that are appropriate for their species. If we also eat foods that are appropriate for our species -- whole, plant-based foods -- then we, too, will be able to eat without portion control and will naturally reach a comfortable weight.

Improve mental clarity Eating a whole-food, plant-based diet improves cognitive function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Most people experience greater clarity of thought, improved ability to concentrate, and better memory.

Experience only positive effects, not "side effects". These can include better mood, sounder sleep, improved bowel function, and more vibrant skin. You will have more energy to do the things you love, like playing with your children or grandchildren, biking, gardening, walking, swimming. You may even want to exercise more. By contrast, medical procedures and medications can have all sorts of major unintended negative consequences.

Quoted from Forks Over Knives Plan.

Why do you and others who are surely not vegan or vegetarian come post on this thread, which is just for vegans and vegetarians, in the forum for them? You are just here to post your information that will be contrary, and you are not welcome here to do that.
 
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Hummus, which I use a lot, is very tasty, and it versatile and can be used in many things, with using it a lot it is easy to avoid using cheese, or eggs, still. It is good for leguminous protein. And I really prefer plant-based milks to dairy milk anyway.
 
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Sorry to reactivate an ancient thread, but I'm wondering if anyone has recommendations for a protein powder. I've tried several brands that haven't been that appealing to me.

JS: I put this into granola and smoothies. Some can also be added to bread and other bake goods to up the protein in the bread but use unflavored for Breads.
 
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A local Orlando Vegan foodie/chef (Sauce Stache) mentioned in ones of his Youtube reviews of mock meat that he sometimes gets a "dog food" aftertaste from pea protein, and I didn't quite understand that comment until recently: the Perky Jerky plant-based jerky I recently tried was the first mock meat I've tasted that had that "dog food" aftertaste. Truly unappetizing. It was recommended by a guy on Reddit who said it was better than the soy curl-based jerkies. I think I prefer the soy curl jerkies from Louisville Jerky. With plant protein, you don't want too mild a flavor.

I'm partial to Quorn, ever since I first tried it decades ago in the UK. It has a nice mushroom aftertaste, and it has about the same amount of protein as beef. I make a mock chicken tikka in my air frier and a pot on the stove. Most of the time, though, I just eat beans or texturized vegetable protein (a great survival or prepper food because it will last for years in the pantry).

This is just all wrong. All of it. Eggs and dairy are not even healthy, those industries cannot even claim it with basis. And optimal health does not depend on animal products. There is not mere survival without animal products, people thrive without those. Anyone should get vitamin B12 supplements if they just get store bought food, it is too easy to not get enough otherwise, whether having animal products or not. This vitamin is only produced from some soil bacteria, animals and people can get the vitamin from food they get in natural environments, but any of the bacteria for it or the vitamin are missing from what animals used in the industry are fed.

Very true. B-12 deficiency isn't that rare among omnivores/meat eaters, especially among senior citizens. As people age, they tend to lose the ability to absorb it easily. And the consequences of B-12 deficiency can be quite severe.

Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge.

There was also Nathan Pritikin, who inspired several of those guys as well, like Dr. McDougall. He was the original "low fat diet guru" back in the 70's.
 
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As far as protein powder goes, I found Vega protein powder, I just have some at some times with certain things I can add it to, but I have not used it generally but just those times. In my case it would be nice to put on a little more weight. But my health is not worsening from having a variety of whole foods all from plants, and not from animals or fungi, and getting certain vitamin supplements, it is the healthiest way to eat and avoids many serious issues to health and well-being. The few issues I do have do not have any relation to food I eat.
 
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