What are some reasons to support Trump?

[expos4ever]

Trump doesn’t lie.

Do you really believe this? No, man, I mean really.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Did you see all the facts and statistics I posted in my original post?

You seem incapable of understanding that those jobs are gone, the economic growth is gone, people are dying in their thousands and Trump is still in charge.

 

[DaisyDay]

Donald Trump has kept his campaign promises.

One particular campaign promise he broke, that was entirely within his power to keep, was that he would release his tax info once he was elected. He has made it emphatically clear that he has no intention whatsoever of keeping that one.

He is far from being a conman.

That is contrary to objective reality - see Trump University. No American bank has deigned to extend him any credit since his multiple defaults.

 

[DaisyDay]

And, he has great hair.

Plus a beautifully applied tan! Not to mention the best physique of any president ever!

 

[DaisyDay]

What are some reasons to support Trump?
He's large.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Trump
Supports Pro Life.
Has appointed great judges.
Knows how to run business.
US is one big business.
Works 15 to 20 hours a day.
While others would be Sleepy.
M-Bob

 

[Mountainmanbob]

derail the recovery that Obama set in motion.


It is completely derailed now and it is being very poorly handled by the White House and the family compact.

Known as the "slowest recovery in history."
M

 

[Sparagmos]

- Real GDP growth under President Trump has beaten the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) projections every year and exceeded the rate of the Obama Administration’s expansion.

- Nearly 7 million jobs have been created nationwide since President Trump’s election, including more than 500,000 manufacturing jobs.

- Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Americans without a high school degree, and disabled Americans have logged record lows.

- Nearly 2.5 million Americans have been lifted out of poverty, including nearly 1.4 million children.

- The poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans hit new lows in 2018.

- Wages are rising faster for the bottom 10 percent of earners than for the top 10 percent of earners, and wage growth for employees has surpassed wage growth for managers.

- Since President Trump’s historic tax reform, the lowest earners have enjoyed faster wage gains than every other income group.

- The net wealth held by the bottom half of households has grown by 47 percent—more than three times the rate of increase for the top 1 percent of households.

- Real household wealth has increased by nearly $12 trillion since the start of 2017.

Source for these statistics: The Historic Results Of President Donald J. Trump’s Economic Agenda | The White House

Your source is the White House? How about providing actual sources.

and which policies of Trump’s caused each of the improvements you cite?

 

[cow451]

Trump
Supports Pro Life.
Has appointed great judges.
Knows how to run business.
US is one big business.
Works 15 to 20 hours a day.
While others would be Sleepy.
M-Bob

Bob, you don’t give appropriate credit. Look at these Trump success stories:

USFL
Trump Vodka
Trump Steaks
Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump the Game
Trump Taj Mahal
Trump Magazine
and.... coming soon....?
Trump America

 

[Sparagmos]

These findings are from the US government, which is a very credible source. If you believe the facts are lying, then prove your assertion. Don’t expect everyone to agree with your opinion.

So if Adam Schiff puts something up on his website, it’s also coming from the government and “credible?”

 

[jardiniere]

And all of this has been squandered due to his mismanagement of the coronavirus crisis ...

That word squandered is the most heartbreakingly accurate term I've heard about this issue.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Trump Vodka
Trump Steaks
Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump the Game
Trump Taj Mahal
Trump Magazine
and.... coming soon....?
Trump America

True, probably get Trump even more votes in 2020.
Looking to be a breeze for Trump.
Latest news -- Biden got lost again.
M-Bob

 

[Kentonio]

Knows how to run business

..into the ground.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Works 15 to 20 hours a day.

That money doesn’t transfer from the state and taxpayers to the billionaires by itself it takes an effort.

Rest of the time golfing in Mar A Lago

 

[Larniavc]

These findings are from the US government, which is a very credible source. If you believe the facts are lying, then prove your assertion. Don’t expect everyone to agree with your opinion.

It is quite odd the the White House web site would have a glowing report of Mr Trump.

Will it have an estimate for how many extra deaths his early inactivity, lies and terrible advice to Americans has caused?

 

[Larniavc]

..into the ground.

Exactly. He even ruined Casinos. The only reason for losing all of that money in a casino (of all places) is if you are money lau-

Oh, right. I see.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I support him simply because he is the President. But he is often an embarrassment and I agree with almost nothing he says or does. But I hope he succeeds because the good of our country is at stake.

 

[Hank77]

Many long term unemployed were dropped and those who lost professional well paying jobs who took 3 part time jobs to make less then they did with one good job are now counted as 3 jobs or employed 3 times. This skews the measure of who is working.

This is a fact, not an alternative fact, but an actual true fact.

 

[lasthero]

The data doesn't seem to support this. It appears that in the best years of both Pres. Trump and Pres. Obama, the expansion was 2.9%. I suppose if you want to compare the average per year you can claim Trump wins, but it requires the negative growth rate of Obama's first year when he took office during a recession (which he turned around in his first year).

This claim by the White House appears to not be true and is, at best, misleading.



Except that Obama created 1.5 million more jobs in his last three years in office than Trump did. Trump created 6.6 million new jobs in his first three years, Obama created 8.1 million new jobs in his last three years. That is also before we start counting the 700,000 jobs officially lost in March (with likely more to come).



Which Obama also did -- just that Trump built on Obama's recovery (at least until now).



Again, it will be interesting to see what these number look like in the fall, closer to the election.



Again, which they also did in 2016 -- this "fact" seems to be a repeat. And, again, these records were also set by Obama, just the trends continued under the first years of Trump's administration.



This is tends to be a misleading stat -- largely because the top 10 percent of earners frequently do not get "wages." In terms of compensation -- if they work for a corporation -- they tend to get more in benefits, particularly stock options and bonuses. Beyond that, most of their income is from various forms of investments. This metric is largely meaningless. The next point is the one that is more meaningful (even if untrue):



The problem with this one, it was only true for a short period in 2018. Yes, in 2018 the gap between the top 10% and the rest of us fell for a few months. The issue is, since 2018 the top 10% has recovered what the lost and the gap is again the widest it has been in decades -- and growing for the rich.



These last two I suspect, again, are cherry picked from specific time periods (a month or two) in 2018 -- of course, there is no actual source for these numbers. Your source links to campaign propaganda on the White House website, with no source give for these statistics or any supporting numbers.

Of course, these also ignore that Trump has raised the deficit more in good economic conditions than any president ever -- far outstripping Obama since the recovery. This year, before the pandemic, Trump was set to come close to tripling the deficit (that would be 300%) of what the deficit was during Obama's last year in office. With the pandemic -- which is why you try to eliminate and pay back debt in strong economies -- we are looking likely at least a 4 trillion deficit -- and it could be 8 trillion (or even higher) depending on how long the country is shut down. Pres. Trump just signed a $2 trillion dollar stimulus package, and likely with the country shut down until May, Congress will likely pass another stimulus package later this month. And that doesn't include the lowered tax revenue.

And that is just the economy -- allegedly his strongest category. As of the end of last year he'd added roughly 93 miles of new wall, with 1,300 miles of border with no wall still (and no plan to get most of it built). He's not created any health plan, which was a major campaign promise -- merely tried to dismantle Obamacare. He's not tackled infrastructure at all -- he did have a meeting with Democrats once to talk about it, which ended quickly when he accused Pelosi of insulting him and walked out.

There is far, far more that could be talked about but, again, the main point of the OP (and the Trump administration in general) is how great he's been for the economy, which has now taken a massive turn for the worse. In fact, there are arguments that could be made that the Coronavirus is far worse than it could have been if Trump wasn't trying to keep the economy propped up, rather that to quickly start to limit spread of the virus (and do more than an ineffective travel ban, which didn't stop people who had been in Wuhan from coming to the US without any type of quarantine -- only the Chinese that had been there.

This is a great post. A shame it’s going to be completely ignored.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

I support him simply because he is the President. But he is often an embarrassment and I agree with almost nothing he says or does.

Sounds like the Volkssturm defending the Reichstag from the Soviet armies in 1945 but obstinacy is it’s own reward I guess.