What are some reasons to support Trump?

Has Donald Trump been good for America?

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The problem with arguments such as the one happening in this thread is that most of the participants are speaking but not listening. There are exceptions, and I try to be an exception myself, but most of the time when a post gets rebutted, the original poster will deny the rebuttal rather than admit that perhaps that particular rebuttal might have made a good point.

In another forum I answered some people who were claiming that a real Jesus never existed. I posted the common line that "there is more hard evidence for the existence of Jesus than there is for the existence of Julius Caesar." Somebody answered and rebutted that statement with an argument that I had never heard. It didn't change my mind about the historical reality of Jesus, but it did change my perspective about the particular line I used. I answered by acknowledging that the poster had made a good point, and I thanked him for sharing. I wish I saw that kind of response from more people.
 
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Well since post 47 has roundly dealt with the financial arguments I'm wondering if there are ways Trump has made America better.

I would love to hear how he has improved

The quality of the environment
The safety of citizens
The credibility of its institutions and its intelligence community
The education of citizens

It gets tiring hearing that Trump has been so great only because of the economy. And now that their numbers are shown to do be pretty meh, let's diversifycome on Trump supporters! Please don't let me down! I don't live down there so I am curious about how things have improved.
 
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Well since post 47 has roundly dealt with the financial arguments I'm wondering if there are ways Trump has made America better.

I would love to hear how he has improved

The quality of the environment
The safety of citizens
The credibility of its institutions and its intelligence community
The education of citizens

It gets tiring hearing that Trump has been so great only because of the economy. And now that their numbers are shown to do be pretty meh, let's diversifycome on Trump supporters! Please don't let me down! I don't live down there so I am curious about how things have improved.

Donald has accomplished one thing which I don't think anyone can deny has indeed made America great: He has inspired an entire generation of people to get involved in politics -- most of whom are firmly in the "NeverTrump" camp, to be sure, but involved nonetheless.
 
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Donald Trump has kept his campaign promises. He is far from being a conman.

No, he hasn't. He made several promises about protecting LGBT rights while he was still campaigning.

"Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs." - Donald Trump's personal tweet from June 14, 2016.

Donald Trump to LGBT community: I'm a 'real friend'

Making GOP history, Trump vows to protect LGBT community

Trump vows to keep Obama-era protection for LGBT federal workers

But in the last three years, he has proven that he had no intention of protecting LGBT rights.

2016 - First 100 Days: How President Trump Has Impacted LGBTQ Rights

2017 - Trump's Attacks on the LGBT Community in 2017 Contradict His Campaign Promises

2018 - Trump Attacked LGBT Rights in 2018, and He’s Far From Done

2019 - Here Are the Worst Anti-LGBT Bills to Watch for in 2019

IOW, he lied about protecting LGBT rights to gain political support from the LGBT community.

Trump administration dismantles LGBT-friendly policies

Under Trump, LGBTQ Progress Is Being Reversed in Plain Sight

All the times the Trump administration has weakened gay rights

We Made A List Of All The Anti-LGBT Stuff Trump Has Done As President

'A critical point in history': how Trump's attack on LGBT rights is escalating

GLADD - Trump Accountability Project records how many times Trump has attacked LGBT rights. Here’s a list of all of the attacks the Trump-Pence administration has levied against LGBTQ people.
 
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I already answered that. Did you see all the facts and statistics I posted in my original post?

Did you see the subsequent rebuttals of those claims?
 
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No, he hasn't. He made several promises about protecting LGBT rights while he was still campaigning.

"Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs." - Donald Trump's personal tweet from June 14, 2016.

Donald Trump to LGBT community: I'm a 'real friend'

Making GOP history, Trump vows to protect LGBT community

Trump vows to keep Obama-era protection for LGBT federal workers

But in the last three years, he has proven that he had no intention of protecting LGBT rights.

2016 - First 100 Days: How President Trump Has Impacted LGBTQ Rights

2017 - Trump's Attacks on the LGBT Community in 2017 Contradict His Campaign Promises

2018 - Trump Attacked LGBT Rights in 2018, and He’s Far From Done

2019 - Here Are the Worst Anti-LGBT Bills to Watch for in 2019

IOW, he lied about protecting LGBT rights to gain political support from the LGBT community.

Trump administration dismantles LGBT-friendly policies

Under Trump, LGBTQ Progress Is Being Reversed in Plain Sight

All the times the Trump administration has weakened gay rights

We Made A List Of All The Anti-LGBT Stuff Trump Has Done As President

'A critical point in history': how Trump's attack on LGBT rights is escalating

GLADD - Trump Accountability Project records how many times Trump has attacked LGBT rights. Here’s a list of all of the attacks the Trump-Pence administration has levied against LGBTQ people.
I suspect Boo meant to say ‘he kept the campaign promises that I know/care about’.
 
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He’s provably lied over 16,000 times since coming into office. Do you even understand how much effort it takes to lie 16,000 times in just 3 years?! But no of course you won’t actually bother to read up the fact checkers and see those lies, because it’s easier to just go ‘wah wah libruls’ like a good little cult member.

Has being incredibly rude and name calling ever helped your POV?

Asking for a friend......
 
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Has being incredibly rude and name calling ever helped your POV?

Asking for a friend......
The above statement coming from a Trumper.... LOL.
"What a nasty question. You should be ashamed."
(Just quoting the President by the way, don't shoot the messenger.)
 
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True, probably get Trump even more votes in 2020.
Looking to be a breeze for Trump.
Latest news -- Biden got lost again.
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Do you have any idea about what happened to any of these endeavors?
 
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The problem with arguments such as the one happening in this thread is that most of the participants are speaking but not listening. There are exceptions, and I try to be an exception myself, but most of the time when a post gets rebutted, the original poster will deny the rebuttal rather than admit that perhaps that particular rebuttal might have made a good point.

In another forum I answered some people who were claiming that a real Jesus never existed. I posted the common line that "there is more hard evidence for the existence of Jesus than there is for the existence of Julius Caesar." Somebody answered and rebutted that statement with an argument that I had never heard. It didn't change my mind about the historical reality of Jesus, but it did change my perspective about the particular line I used. I answered by acknowledging that the poster had made a good point, and I thanked him for sharing. I wish I saw that kind of response from more people.
You haven’t expressed such appreciation for any of my posts.
 
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Donald has accomplished one thing which I don't think anyone can deny has indeed made America great: He has inspired an entire generation of people to get involved in politics -- most of whom are firmly in the "NeverTrump" camp, to be sure, but involved nonetheless.
Unfortunately he has not inspired enough of them.
 
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Has being incredibly rude and name calling ever helped your POV?

Asking for a friend......

I lost my temper. I usually try hard to avoid doing so. It becomes incredibly frustrating however seeing people stating complete falsehoods as truth.
 
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I lost my temper. I usually try hard to avoid doing so. It becomes incredibly frustrating however seeing people stating complete falsehoods as truth.

History will remember Trump well. That is a truth, not falsehood, that you cannot deny.
 
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That’s not a truth, it’s just something you think, and it’s very deniable.

Ronald Reagan wasn't all that popular when he was president. But now his legacy is remembered well. He's very popular among conservatives to this day, and I think the same thing will happen with Trump.
 
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Ronald Reagan wasn't all that popular when he was president.
Donald Trump is not, on the best day of his life, Ronald Reagan.

He's very popular among conservatives to this day, and I think the same thing will happen with Trump.
Well, that just like, your opinion, man.
 
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