We Live In An Electrical Simulation

[prodromos]

My job is to sprinkle my Lords name all throughout every conversation. In that way perhaps there is another lost soul that is seeking and doesn't have a bad attitude like you. He may read my words and then pray to the Lord and be saved? It can happen.

Since you associate Christ's name with some weird kind of dualistic heresy, I fear you are more likely to drive people away.

 

[Divide]

Since you associate Christ's name with some weird kind of dualistic heresy, I fear you are more likely to drive people away.

Isn't it kind of disingenious to speak out and call something heresy but then show no wrongs, show no right...what am I to think of your post? Can you back up your post or simply say you disagree. But you can't call it heresy without being specific. What part of what I presented is heresy to you?

If you can't articulate that then prolly shouldnt say those things.

 

[Divide]

Rocket *surgeon*, please.

My mistake. Mere Rocket surgeon I meant!

The spell is broken, I ain't goin' back.

That's your choice. But if that is the case, why would you come to a Christian board? Maybe you have no choice but to hang out on a Christian board? Some irresistable inner unction to be here and read? That's ok but you shouldn't be a punk to the Christians. I don't care how smart you think you are. You should stop posting to this thread or else I will post a bunch of Biblical Scriptures to you.

This is, after all, a Christian Board so, yes. Sometimes scripture will find it's way into the (forbidden) forum, Lol! That's one thing you miss, You may want me to shut up, but the Christian Moderators will not silence me. The truth needs to be spoken.

Doesn't mean I can't be wrong. But you sure havent showed me that I'm wrong. So to embrace regression and start having tantrums is sort of lacking in class don't you think?

 

[sjastro]

This thread can be summarized as follows.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Is that what spirit dualism is. That's not what I was talking about. Matter is not inherently bad or lowly. The Spirit may indeed be superior because the matter was created by the Spirit. What makes you think that in the spiritual realm there are not, spiritual bodies. Or interdimensional bodies?



Oh, ok. I get it. So you were saying not that I am a heretic but that what I spoke may be heresy. Sorry about that.



I have always been taught that the road to God is a battle of the mind. I admit, I do not see a contrast where you do. More of a partnership than a contrast. You sound as if you don't believe in the spiritual realm or think it's where everything is etherial. And that is not so. Jesus said, the Kingdom is at hand. Look to the unseen. Understand how it fits in to the big picture.

I once heard one of those scientist types (I forget who) that said our entire life is spent 95% thinking and the other 5% of the time we're actually doing something (outside of ourselves) IOW, not thinking. Sometimes I think while driving. So if I am inside thinking then I'm not driving the truck. WHo's driving the truck?! My sub-conscious is driving, having been programmed to drive and even knows the way. Then he postulated that, what if our thoughts are the only real substance that we have as humans? What if, faith is the substance of that which we can not see.

So to me, I am able to see that we could indeed be being put through a mental exercise. And we wouldn't even know it. Like you said, a dream seems real until you wake up.



Oh, so up above you were just telling me about spirit matter dualism but you don't agree with it is what you are saying here?

You are NOT a soul in a body in the middle of an unseen spiritual realm?



Oh! I see. You do believe it on some level maybe but generally ignore the things of the spirit and spiritual realm to focus all of your attention on Christ Himself? I think that's ok and I can understand that viewpoint. I do focus on Jesus too, but they had a thread on some christian forum where people were trying to unpack the realities a little so I was urged to respond.



The way I figure it, if we are supposed to worship in Spirit and in Truth, then we also need to read His word in Spirit and Truth. You don't just read it once and decipher the textual message. First off perhaps but then you read it again and look for the biblical principle that is being spoke of, then a third time to get the spirit of it or the essence so to speak.

Have you ever gotten a Rhema?



Well I started the thread here. So I have no need to go private. Say what you want to here. It's not off topic to me and I'm the OP. SO we should be good.

There are some significant theological ideas that need serious unpacking. But this is the science board. The more this theological discussion continues, the further away it is going to get from both the thread topic itself you created; but it is certainly going to be entirely outside any scope of the discussion of science.

We aren't talking science right now. We are talking theology. We are, in fact, getting into some major theological and biblical conversation that should be discussed elsewhere, so that it can be more appropriately explored without wasting space here. It also means more visibility for those who want to participate in this particular discussion.

I'd be more than happy to be the one who creates a thread somewhere else about these subjects if you don't want to do it. If so, is there a specific point of theology here that you'd like me to begin with? As I said, there's a lot that can be unpacked and discussed.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Divide]

We aren't talking science right now. We are talking theology. We are, in fact, getting into some major theological and biblical conversation that should be discussed elsewhere, so that it can be more appropriately explored without wasting space here. It also means more visibility for those who want to participate in this particular discussion.

Shall we not go where the conversation has taken us? Shall we turn around? I think it is ok for our conversation that it drifted this way. But it was the priginal post that pointed us in this diection. So I think we should continue here. I know the OP (he is a friend of mine) and he says ok for this thread since it is so interesting.

I don't think you realize that I agree with some of what you say. You are in a good position in Christ from how you sound. but demand meat for all where many only need milk.

There's good ways and bad ways to make associations and it seems to me that...I bet all of the real truth about our experience here on earth will be flabbergasting when we (finally) reach that point.

But no Brother. Let's just keep this thread where it is.

 

[Jipsah]

Because you say so ......... we will wait for your presentation to refute the above by Chuck Missler.

Don't have to refute ridiculous ideas. You can try to prove they aren't ridiculous though. Good luck!

 

[Jipsah]

5 to 1 you didn't even watch the video where he explains it!

i did. It was ridiculous.

 

[Jipsah]

We live in the Matrix.

You're free to believe that if you like. It's rubbish, of course, but if you want to believe it, then in the words of the Prophet Mohammed, "Gourd head on".

 

[Jipsah]

That's what atheist say about Christians.

So? Zat mean we're supposed to believe every idiotic idea that comes along unquestionably? Better you than me, mate.

 

[Jipsah]

So you're going to play dumb?

Some of us obviously aren't just playing

 

[Petros2015]

Well, a virtual scientist takes a virtual electron microscope and looks at a virtual rock very closely to see what it is made of.
What does he see, I wonder?

I feel like he would see more uniformity, and not the variety of amino acids and molecules we do. I don't think you would need a periodic table of 100+ elements in a virtual world, or exact simulations of such all programmed to behave certain ways. It would be kind of a drag on the system.

Just my random thought.

 

[Divide]

i did. It was ridiculous.

Are you sure it just wasnt over your head? I could explain it to you but you would snicker at it too so I wont waste my time with you beyond one question. Name all the states of matter that you can think of? Can you name any of them?

 

[Divide]

Some of us obviously aren't just playing

I know and I'm sympathetic towards you about it. Sorry to hear that, lol.

 

[Jipsah]

Are you sure it just wasnt over your head?

Yep. It was rubbish.

I could explain it to you

I'm sure that you could.

but you would snicker at it too

There's about a 90% certainty of that.

so I wont waste my time with you

Good!

beyond one question. Name all the states of matter that you can think of? Can you name any of them?

Oh, I can do better than that:
.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's;
I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies,
I know the croaking chorus from The Frogs of Aristophanes!
Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore,
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.

And do you want 4 states or 5? <Laugh>

 

[Jipsah]

God didn't make a fake simulation of reality.

Game, set, and match.

 

[Laodicean60]

Wow man, I bet you don't even like science fiction movies!

What if I told you that The Mariix is not science fiction?

It's a documentary.

Wasn't the movie Matrix derived from quantum physics in 1949?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Wasn't the movie Matrix derived from quantum physics in 1949?

I can't think of how quantum physics is influential in the plot of the Matrix trilogy.

It seems rather blatant that the Matrix draws upon several religious and philosophical traditions, the Gnostic influence is very obvious--and it's been discussed by many people many times over the last couple decades.

Anyone with a working familiarity with ancient Gnostic ideas and writings can easily demonstrate obvious parallels.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

It's already been proven now that we live in an electrial smulatton.

What practical difference does it make?

 

[prodromos]

Yep. It was rubbish.


I'm sure that you could.

There's about a 90% certainty of that.

Good!

Oh, I can do better than that:
.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's;
I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies,
I know the croaking chorus from The Frogs of Aristophanes!
Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore,
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.

And do you want 4 states or 5? <Laugh>

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