And you won't. Now do you wish to address anything having to do with the topic at hand or do you wish to continue to make off topic posts and derail the thread? I have no patience for people who think of those who disagree with their pacifism as bloodthirsty and people who don't have enough faith in God to protect them. The people who oppose Giver have been called pretty much murderers throughout this whole thread. We've been told we have no faith in God. Tell me how much of that can you take before you lose your patience?
Here are some of Giver's loving answers:
If the first part of what he says is true, then we're all screwed as we have all disobeyed God and lost our souls.
Man there's some false teaching from Giver! Christians don't need laws. Christ, disagreed with this as He said, if you love me you will keep my commandments, which are laws.
Read the following verse and ask God for some understanding.
(1 Timothy 1:8-11) We know, of course, that the Law is good, but only provided it is treated like any law, in the understanding that laws are not framed for people who are good. On the contrary, they are for criminals and revolutionaries, for the irreligious and the wicked, for the sacrilegious and the irreverent; they are for people who kill their fathers or mothers and for murderers, for those who are immoral with women or with boys or with men, for liars and for perjurers and for everything else that is contrary to the sound teaching that goes with the Good News of the glory of the blessed God, the gospel that was entrusted to me.
Here he claims to know the hearts of others and comments on their lack of faith in Jesus, simply because they disagree with him. Yeah, that's REAL loving isn't it?
You can just feel the love can't ya? LOL
Now there's a personal attack on someone's ability to study the word of God that was not warranted.
Apparently those who disagree with Giver are the ones who need to wise up. You dare come after me for my attitude when he's pullin' crap like this?
And we're back to the false teaching again. Man, you've really chosen a great guy to defend here.
Translation: Baby Christian are those who disagree with Giver. Spiritual Christian is Giver.
Those who carry weapons are not of God and are not living according to God, according to Giver. I don't believe he has the authority to make this judgment.
Assumes that the person is not of God and teaches falsely that killing is explicitly wrong. The commandment is against murder, not killing.
Now here we see Giver plainly contradicting himself:
and contrast that with
That is an absolute lie that is refuted by this scripture:
Luk 22:36 He said to them, "But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
Gotta love the LOVE of Giver, huh? Please, here he is proclaiming who has faith and who doesn't. Not according to the scriptures, but according to his own personal bias and judgment.
I've asked for proof for this statement three times now and still have no proof for it. That's very telling.
Here he flames the entire RCC in one fell swoop. Why was that neccessary? There are plenty more quotes I could provide from Giver that show he's just as bad as you think I am. So I suggest you put both of us on ignore since we are openly engaged in behavior you find unbecoming a Christian. I also suggest that before you defend people on this board and attack others, you get to know the people you are speaking up for.