We Are In The End Times

[dfw69]

If Dan AOD prophecy is completed why did Jesus mentioned it taking place as a sign before his kingly rule on earth ?

His coming rule will end the transgression of Israel Daniel 9:24 and anoints the most holy place

Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

For Daniel people and holy city Jerusalem
The end of 70th week will end their sinning against god
End their transgression against god
Atonement will be made for their wickedness and everlasting righteousness will come from Jerusalem
the visions and prophecy concerning Daniel’s people and holy city will be accomplished
And the holy place will once again be a holy place for the eternal messiah

Anyone who still still thinks Daniel is fulfilled is simply mistaken

Also in Matt 24:21 Jesus said the great tribulation of those days during the AOD will be so great that it will be unequal to any war or tribulations that has ever occurred before it or after it …

So when people say the tribulations and wars between Titus and Jews or Antiochus wars accomplished the prophecy is false when compared to resent wars like ww1 ww2 and the holocaust tribulations that came after

There may even be a possible ww3 and we all know what kind of devastation that can bring

But when the wrath of god is poured out none before it will come close to the destruction and tribulations that will occur in those days

 

[ViaCrucis]

If Dan AOD prophecy is completed why did Jesus mentioned it taking place as a sign before his kingly rule on earth ?

He doesn't. But He does warn against those who make claims and says that when He does come, it'll be obvious, "Matthew 24:22-28.

His coming rule will end the transgression of Israel Daniel 9:24 and anoints the most holy place

Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

For Daniel people and holy city Jerusalem
The end of 70th week will end their sinning against god
End their transgression against god
Atonement will be made for their wickedness and everlasting righteousness will come from Jerusalem
the visions and prophecy concerning Daniel’s people and holy city will be accomplished
And the holy place will once again be a holy place for the eternal messiah

The seventy weeks were fulfilled with the restoration of the Temple after the decree of King Cyrus the Great for the Jews to return, and the Temple was rebuilt under the satrapy of Zerubbabel.

"Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks."

The anointed prince was King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1).

From the beginning of the Exile and Jeremiah's prophecy about the restoration of the Temple, until the decree of Cyrus for the restoration of the Temple was seventy years, or "weeks" as Daniel calls them.

Anyone who still still thinks Daniel is fulfilled is simply mistaken

Not at all.

Also in Matt 24:21 Jesus said the great tribulation of those days during the AOD will be so great that it will be unequal to any war or tribulations that has ever occurred before it or after it …

So when people say the tribulations and wars between Titus and Jews or Antiochus wars accomplished the prophecy is false when compared to resent wars like ww1 ww2 and the holocaust tribulations that came after

We're still in tribulation, we've been in tribulation for a long time. Jesus even told us as much, "In this world you will have tribulation" but what else does He say, "Be courageous, for I have conquered the world." (John 16:33).

While Jesus warned about how His followers would be thrown out of synagogues and put to death, to warn them of what would happen early on, as we see in the Acts of the Apostles concerning the way the Jewish leadership would treat them (after all, He had also told them, "No servant is greater than his master, if they hated Me, they will hate you as well.") It was Roman persecution that would truly mark the beginning of horrors for the Church, the first big example of that was under Nero, while having died before the destruction of the Temple obviosly, certainly showed what was to come.

There may even be a possible ww3 and we all know what kind of devastation that can bring

Sure, but that's still what Jesus called the "birth pains".

But when the wrath of god is poured out none before it will come close to the destruction and tribulations that will occur in those days

When Christ returns as Judge to tread the winepress of God's wrath, well, it's Judgment and St. Peter reminds us that everything impure and wicked will be burnt up. We read the heavens will roll up like a scroll on that Last and Final Day.

The Apocalypse describes God's wrath and judgment in many ways, for the Day certainly is coming when there will be Judgment upon the earth.

-CryptoLutheran

 

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A lot of people don't realize it but we are living in the end times. We have been in the last generation since 1948 when Israel became a nation again. The pretribulation rapture theory is a lie. Those who believe in a pretribulation rapture will be caught by surprise by these end times events. The mark of the beast is also being prepared in the form of a digital currency and a microchip implant. I believe that Jesus will return within the next 10 years and possibly within the next 5 years. We are living in the end times and the signs

 

[anetazo]

Mark of beast is being deceived by antichrist lies and deception, revelation chapter 13. Many people don't have the gospel armour on, its knowledge and wisdom of God's word, ephesians chapter 6. We're definitely living in end times. Zechariah chapter 6 is coming to pass. It's two mountains of brass. Russia and America. Theirs 4 war chariots. The black and white chariots went north, Russia. Grisled chariots went south, middle east. Bible prophecy coming to pass. Jesus told us in Matthew chapter 24, the 7 signs of the end. Wars and rumors of wars should ring loud bell. Covid-19 started in America April 2020. This is a pestilence. See the connection with Matthew chapter 24. Covid-19 didn't come from China. Theirs many false preachers running around. Jesus warns us in Matthew chapter 24. We're getting closer to the 6th trump. Read ephesians chapter 6, gospel armory on is only way to stand against fiery darts of the devil. Its lies and deception. It's a spirtual battlefield.

 

[dfw69]

He doesn't. But He does warn against those who make claims and says that when He does come, it'll be obvious, "Matthew 24:22-28.




The seventy weeks were fulfilled with the restoration of the Temple after the decree of King Cyrus the Great for the Jews to return, and the Temple was rebuilt under the satrapy of Zerubbabel.

"Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks."

The anointed prince was King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1).

From the beginning of the Exile and Jeremiah's prophecy about the restoration of the Temple, until the decree of Cyrus for the restoration of the Temple was seventy years, or "weeks" as Daniel calls them.

Via Jesus said when you see the AOD spoken of in Daniel let them flee to the mountains referring to a future event not a past one implying the 70 weeks were not fulfilled yet until he returns to accomplish it Matt 24:15

We're still in tribulation, we've been in tribulation for a long time. Jesus even told us as much, "In this world you will have tribulation" but what else does He say, "Be courageous, for I have conquered the world." (John 16:33).

Yes we are… yet the great tribulation Jesus spoke of to his people ,the elect, his servants, the children of Israel, is referring to a specific time when the false messianic age will come and it will be anti-Christ in spirit and a day of darkness, deception and lies and it will kill off millions who will testify against it because false prophets and false messiahs will arise and reign during this time against the true prophets and saints and servants of Yasha that will arise against them

While Jesus warned about how His followers would be thrown out of synagogues and put to death, to warn them of what would happen early on, as we see in the Acts of the Apostles concerning the way the Jewish leadership would treat them (after all, He had also told them, "No servant is greater than his master, if they hated Me, they will hate you as well.") It was Roman persecution that would truly mark the beginning of horrors for the Church, the first big example of that was under Nero, while having died before the destruction of the Temple obviosly, certainly showed what was to come.

The temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem
Babylon in the land of shinar will arise again as well
Judaism will reign again during the false messianic age
And then yasha prophecies will come true again and again

Sure, but that's still what Jesus called the "birth pains".

Birth pains indeed take place first for isreal and Jerusalem because she is about to give birth to 144000 of the tribes of Israel who will follow the true messiah and king of Israel and will rule with yasha 1000 years when he returns to Jerusalem to save her from total destruction

When Christ returns as Judge to tread the winepress of God's wrath, well, it's Judgment and St. Peter reminds us that everything impure and wicked will be burnt up. We read the heavens will roll up like a scroll on that Last and Final Day.

There is the last day of human government and the start of divine government when yasha returns in glory as a God

There is the last day after the 1000 years when fire comes down to renovate the earth into a new heaven and new earth ..this takes place after the 1000 years to combat those who will rise up after the 1000 years for satan has been released from his prison and Gog and Magog come seeking to overthrow the reign of yasha to surround the holy city

The Apocalypse describes God's wrath and judgment in many ways, for the Day certainly is coming when there will be Judgment upon the earth.

-CryptoLutheran

Yes of course there will be judgement for those who hate the light who walk in darkness and hate the truth and hate the son of man and persecute those who love him

 

[dfw69]

Mark of beast is being deceived by antichrist lies and deception, revelation chapter 13. Many people don't have the gospel armour on, its knowledge and wisdom of God's word, ephesians chapter 6. We're definitely living in end times. Zechariah chapter 6 is coming to pass. It's two mountains of brass. Russia and America. Theirs 4 war chariots. The black and white chariots went north, Russia. Grisled chariots went south, middle east. Bible prophecy coming to pass. Jesus told us in Matthew chapter 24, the 7 signs of the end. Wars and rumors of wars should ring loud bell. Covid-19 started in America April 2020. This is a pestilence. See the connection with Matthew chapter 24. Covid-19 didn't come from China. Theirs many false preachers running around. Jesus warns us in Matthew chapter 24. We're getting closer to the 6th trump. Read ephesians chapter 6, gospel armory on is only way to stand against fiery darts of the devil. Its lies and deception. It's a spirtual battlefield.

No the mark of the beast does not come until the temple is erected and AOD is place inside which is an idol in the image of the antichrist… strange how people fail to see rev properly

Truth is many are seeking the end times fulfillment in the wrong era , in the wrong day and age ….

 

[ViaCrucis]

Via Jesus said when you see the AOD spoken of in Daniel let them flee to the mountains referring to a future event not a past one implying the 70 weeks were not fulfilled yet until he returns to accomplish it Matt 24:15

Again, Jesus took what happened in the past and uses it to describe what will happen in the near future. Jesus' words were fulfilled in the year 70 AD.

Yes we are… yet the great tribulation Jesus spoke of to his people ,the elect, his servants, the children of Israel, is referring to a specific time when the false messianic age will come and it will be anti-Christ in spirit and a day of darkness, deception and lies and it will kill off millions who will testify against it because false prophets and false messiahs will arise and reign during this time against the true prophets and saints and servants of Yasha that will arise against them

There's a lot of assumptions in this paragraph. The Bible doesn't speak of a "false messianic age". The Bible doesn't speak of a "false messianic age" where "millions" will be killed.

Instead, the Scriptures bear witness that there will be false messiahs and false prophets. And there have been. You can easily verify that information from a study of history.

This scenario you are envisioning for the future, it's not anywhere taught in Scripture.

The temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem
Babylon in the land of shinar will arise again as well
Judaism will reign again during the false messianic age
And then yasha prophecies will come true again and again

I have no reason to believe there will be a new temple in Jerusalem, that ancient Babylon is going to come back somehow, or that "Judaism will reign again during the false messianic age". From my perspective all of that is just unbibllical nonsense and antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Birth pains indeed take place first for isreal and Jerusalem because she is about to give birth to 144000 of the tribes of Israel who will follow the true messiah and king of Israel and will rule with yasha 1000 years when he returns to Jerusalem to save her from total destruction

The birth pains are of this world, broken and hurting with sin, longing for the new world which God is going to bring about. Creation groans, St. Paul says in Romans 8, and we ourselves groan. This present age, this world, all of creation is groaning, suffering, laboring in the pain of sin and death.

Because out of the pain and suffering of this world God is going to bring about the renewal and restoration of creation when, at long last, God makes all things new, "New heavens and new earth" is what the Scriptures teach.

There is the last day of human government and the start of divine government when yasha returns in glory as a God

Jesus Christ reigns as the God-Man right now. When He comes in glory, He does not come to reign, but rather in Judgment.

Jesus reigns right now. He is King Messiah right now. He is King of kings and Lord of lords, Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, right now.

There is the last day after the 1000 years when fire comes down to renovate the earth into a new heaven and new earth ..this takes place after the 1000 years to combat those who will rise up after the 1000 years for satan has been released from his prison and Gog and Magog come seeking to overthrow the reign of yasha to surround the holy city

I'm not a Chiliast, I don't believe the thousand years is literal or future. We are living in the Day of Christ's Reign as Lord over all right now. He is seated at the right hand of the Father, having been given all power and dominion.

What does Paul say in Philippians 2? That Christ will be exalted? No, Christ has already been exalted, seated at the right hand of the Father, given all power and authority.

When He returns He is not getting demoted to earthly ruler. He was already made "a little lower than the angels" when He shared and partook in our mortality and weakness, to bear the sins of the world. But God has highly exalted Him, giving Him the name that is above every name, and He is seated at the right hand of Majesty above all rulers, above all powers, above all principalities and dominions, above all thrones. He is the God-Man, seated on High: King Messiah and Lord of all.

He is the Incarnate and Resurrected God-Man.

Yes of course there will be judgement for those who hate the light who walk in darkness and hate the truth and hate the son of man and persecute those who love him

And that Judgment shall come when the Son of God returns on the Day known only to the Father. On that Day when all flesh is raised, on that Day He treads the wine press of God's wrath against every kingdom.

For all must one day stand and give account. And He shall say, "I as hungry" "I was thirsty" "I was naked" "I was a stranger" I was sick and in prison".

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

Again, Jesus took what happened in the past and uses it to describe what will happen in the near future. Jesus' words were fulfilled in the year 70 AD.

And yet there is no mentioning of him saying that he is describing something that has already taken place to describe what will take place in the near future.. even if Titus desecrated the temple as they say which I doubt took place at all .. the fulfillment is still to come …because rev reveals the idol of the image of the beast which most likely be place in the temple as well as Paul teaching the son of perdition sits in the temple as god which in itself is an abomination

There's a lot of assumptions in this paragraph. The Bible doesn't speak of a "false messianic age". The Bible doesn't speak of a "false messianic age" where "millions" will be killed.

Well if the Talmudic rabbinic judaism establishes a messianic age because they believe the messiah has come and a temple is erected in the near future , maybe it will change your mind

Instead, the Scriptures bear witness that there will be false messiahs and false prophets. And there have been. You can easily verify that information from a study of history.

Sure but again if a Messianic age comes soon would not that create many false messiahs and false prophets against yasha?

This scenario you are envisioning for the future, it's not anywhere taught in Scripture.

You don’t see it? I do

The wonderful thing of interpreting prophecy is that it will speak for itself when it takes place

I have no reason to believe there will be a new temple in Jerusalem,

You may not but Talmudic rabbis and Hasidic Jews as well as the temple institute and many Zionist living in Jerusalem think differently and very much so believe in a need for a temple , that it is a part of Judaism to worship god

that ancient Babylon is going to come back somehow,

Well zech 5 predicted that very thing and that many prophecies concerning her are yet to take place even in revelation speaks of her … just because she doesn’t exist at the moment does not make her future existence a lie

or that "Judaism will reign again during the false messianic age"

Ok if a false messianic age comes who do you suppose will reign ? Jesus ? Yahshua?yeshua perhaps? All will be False messiahs if they come claiming to be him, they are humans coming to deceive ….

Jesus is a god like creature and revelation reveals him as he is now

Maybe they will say he has return by some Bluebeam project to deceive , they can fake a false return and say he is in the temple but he’s a god so you cannot enter to see him …idk honestly what the false messianic age will look like but I’m sure one is coming whether you believe it or not

Personally I think if the Jews create a messianic age they will say Christianity is a lie and our messiah king and son of david has truly come … the false messiahs and false prophets will be those rising up against Christianity throughout the false messianic age

. From my perspective all of that is just unbibllical nonsense and antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Antisemitism again? was yasha antisemitism? The prophets antisemitic? And all the prophecies antisemitism? Or
just my interpretation of them? No doubt you’ll say the latter ,

What is antisemitism? What’s your definition of it? Can’t say beware of the Leaven of the scribes and Pharisees? Can’t say they are enemies of the gospel As Paul said in Roman’s 11:28 ?

If the Jews create a messianic age .. do you believe it will be the true or false messianic age? If u say false then are u antisemitic for believing so?


Honestly via if the scriptures didn’t speak against them then I would not be … but the fact is Jerusalem still needs to be sanctified from her sins and Dan 70th week will accomplish that not by my will but divine will

The birth pains are of this world, broken and hurting with sin, longing for the new world which God is going to bring about. Creation groans, St. Paul says in Romans 8, and we ourselves groan. This present age, this world, all of creation is groaning, suffering, laboring in the pain of sin and death.

Yes and those rulings over us are guilty of greater sins against humanity but the birthpains in prophecy refer to Jerusalem and her children for the sun moon and 12 stars prophecy represent Israel in Joseph dream and the woman was in labor to give birth to a manchild (144000)
..this is the future and Satan desires to prevent their birth and will seek to kill them in those days but will be unsuccessful and will turn to kill the renmant of Israel who believe on him

Because out of the pain and suffering of this world God is going to bring about the renewal and restoration of creation when, at long last, God makes all things new, "New heavens and new earth" is what the Scriptures teach.

Yes but according to prophecy the gov of this world must be put down and human gov will end and a diving gov will reign with the divine presence of yasha the son of Hashem on earth which must take place first for 1000 years before the new heaven new earth and new Jerusalem come down from heaven

Jesus Christ reigns as the God-Man right now. When He comes in glory, He does not come to reign, but rather in Judgment.

He sits at the right hand of god at this time but he returns to reign as king son of David to reestablish the throne of David as prophecied for a 1000 years and yes there will be judgement

Jesus reigns right now. He is King Messiah right now. He is King of kings and Lord of lords, Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, right now.

He has not yet established his reign in Jerusalem not until Babylon is destroyed and the kingdoms of this world becomes the kingdoms of our lord and his Christ after the 7th trumpet sounds and then the rulers of the kingdoms of the earth will loose their control over the nations for the last time never to regain there control again

satan is still the prince of this world at the moment and satan will be bound when yasha returns and loosen after the 1000 years and cast into the lake of fire forever

Yasha will one day stand on the mount of olives and he will enter Jerusalem as king

I'm not a Chiliast, I don't believe the thousand years is literal or future.

I do

We are living in the Day of Christ's Reign as Lord over all right now. He is seated at the right hand of the Father, having been given all power and dominion.

Yet his reign over the kingdoms of the earth is yet future and how do we know? because human still reign over the earth he’s not going to be seated forever he is going to return and Dan 70th we must be fulfilled as well as rev prophecies
And many other prophecies of the Old Testament

What does Paul say in Philippians 2? That Christ will be exalted? No, Christ has already been exalted, seated at the right hand of the Father, given all power and authority.

It’s one thing to be given all power and authority via it’s another thing to excerise that power and authority over the earth after the 6th seal that will be made clear

When He returns He is not getting demoted to earthly ruler.

It’s not a demotion via I’m so surprised you don’t understand these things ..see he is getting rid of the sins that comes from the land of Israel and saving those that are worthy from satan and his followers… it’s gonna take a strong arm to save both houses of Israel from deception, death and destruction

He was already made "a little lower than the angels" when He shared and partook in our mortality and weakness, to bear the sins of the world.

Yes he came from a virgin woman rode
On a donkey into Jerusalem to offer them the kingdom

But he returns on a horse from heaven with the angels and saints to establish his kingdom on earth … you cannot be called king of kings unless you actually excerise it so that it is true in physical form

I am a son of god via but it does not yet appear in my body what I will be but I know I will be like him when he returns for me

Jesus was the son of god but to man he appeared human so they killed him and indeed he appeared to be mortal , but after he arose his appearance and transformation proved to his disciples he was indeed the son of god …he was the first to receive the gift of the law to become the son of god from mortal to immortal

But God has highly exalted Him, giving Him the name that is above every name, and He is seated at the right hand of Majesty above all rulers, above all powers, above all principalities and dominions, above all thrones. He is the God-Man, seated on High: King Messiah and Lord of all.

Yes and one day he will excerise his power on earth and put an end to the reign of the world ,end the reign of satan, end the reign of terror, end the reign of bondage

He is the Incarnate and Resurrected God-Man.

Yes amen

And that Judgment shall come when the Son of God returns on the Day known only to the Father. On that Day when all flesh is raised, on that Day He treads the wine press of God's wrath against every kingdom.

Yes

For all must one day stand and give account. And He shall say, "I as hungry" "I was thirsty" "I was naked" "I was a stranger" I was sick and in prison".

-CryptoLutheran

See via when Jesus spoke in Matthew mark Luke and John he was offering the kingdom of heaven to the Israelites and the Jews and the law keepers … so many of the teachings and parables are for them even the prophecies of the end times… so this scripture/parable is speaking to them… not us

Let me explain… in the days of the false messianic age , the spirit of god will be poured out upon the elect the Israelites and adherents of Judaism and others and they will prophecy against the false messianic age

And many of them that will keep the commandments of god but testifying of yasha will be hungry thirsty put in prison naked and some are not even Jewish but strangers and foreigners who believe in him and those who showed compassion to them will be rewarded for thier kindness and compassion against the condemned of yasha