We’ve been reading Charles Darwin all wrong

[Psalm 27]

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Any of the above.

Lord of the Dance - and a merry old dance it is, too...

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

So what makes you sooo sure your reading is perfect?
That you cannot possibly be misreading the bible?

Many believers interpret the bible according to their own priors (predispositions), effectively projecting their own truths onto it. Their reading is correct because it feels so right; it validates their personal truths.

 

[Astrid]

Many believers interpret the bible according to their own priors (predispositions), effectively projecting their own truths onto it. Their reading is correct because it feels so right; it validates their personal truths.

Ive been told that God guides their readin', effectively
making them infallible.

 

[AV1611VET]

Many believers interpret the bible according to their own priors (predispositions), effectively projecting their own truths onto it.

A literal interpretation would put an end to that, wouldn't it?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ive been told that God guides their readin', effectively
making them infallible.

I've been told the same thing -- mainly by the "infallible" ones themselves.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A literal interpretation would put an end to that, wouldn't it?

No, because "It's all literal" would be their predisposition.

 

[Psalm 27]

Lord of the Dance - and a merry old dance it is, too...

I danced in the morning
When the world was begun,
And I danced in the moon
And the stars and the sun,
And I came down from heaven
And I danced on the earth,
At Bethlehem
I had My birth.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced for the scribe
And the pharisee,
But they would not dance
And they wouldn't follow Me.
I danced for the fishermen,
For James and John
They came with Me
And the Dance went on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on the Sabbath
And I cured the lame;
The holy people
Said it was a shame.
They whipped and they stripped
And they hung Me on high,
And they left Me there
On a Cross to die.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on a Friday
When the sky turned black
It's hard to dance
With the devil on Your back.
They buried My body
And they thought I'd gone,
But I am The Dance,
And I still go on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
They cut Me down
And I leapt up high;
I AM The Life
That'll never, never die;
I'll live in you
If you'll live in Me -
I am the Lord
Of the Dance, said He.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I danced in the morning
When the world was begun,
And I danced in the moon
And the stars and the sun,
And I came down from heaven
And I danced on the earth,
At Bethlehem
I had My birth.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced for the scribe
And the pharisee,
But they would not dance
And they wouldn't follow Me.
I danced for the fishermen,
For James and John
They came with Me
And the Dance went on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on the Sabbath
And I cured the lame;
The holy people
Said it was a shame.
They whipped and they stripped
And they hung Me on high,
And they left Me there
On a Cross to die.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on a Friday
When the sky turned black
It's hard to dance
With the devil on Your back.
They buried My body
And they thought I'd gone,
But I am The Dance,
And I still go on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
They cut Me down
And I leapt up high;
I AM The Life
That'll never, never die;
I'll live in you
If you'll live in Me -
I am the Lord
Of the Dance, said He.

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come
From out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance
Or sing
We can go when we want to
Night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat
From our hats to our feet
And surprise 'em with the victory cry
Say, we can act if we want to
If we don't, nobody will
And you can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile
And say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
They're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
We can dance if we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it, never gonna lose it
Everything'll work out right
I say, we can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Because your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
I say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
We're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh yes, the safety dance
Oh, the safety dance, yeah
Well, it's the safety dance
It's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I danced in the morning
When the world was begun,
And I danced in the moon
And the stars and the sun,
And I came down from heaven
And I danced on the earth,
At Bethlehem
I had My birth.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced for the scribe
And the pharisee,
But they would not dance
And they wouldn't follow Me.
I danced for the fishermen,
For James and John
They came with Me
And the Dance went on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on the Sabbath
And I cured the lame;
The holy people
Said it was a shame.
They whipped and they stripped
And they hung Me on high,
And they left Me there
On a Cross to die.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
I danced on a Friday
When the sky turned black
It's hard to dance
With the devil on Your back.
They buried My body
And they thought I'd gone,
But I am The Dance,
And I still go on.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He,
And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said He
They cut Me down
And I leapt up high;
I AM The Life
That'll never, never die;
I'll live in you
If you'll live in Me -
I am the Lord
Of the Dance, said He.

That's the one!

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

A literal interpretation would put an end to that, wouldn't it?

Not really - as you rightly say, even a literal reading is an interpretation, and interpretations depend on deciding the meaning and intent of words and phrases.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not really - as you rightly say, even a literal reading is an interpretation, and interpretations depend on deciding the meaning and intent of words and phrases.

It would certainly help though, wouldn't it?

 

[TLK Valentine]

It would certainly help though, wouldn't it?

So would deconverting -- do you encourage people to do that?

(I mean intentionally, of course)

 

[Psalm 27]

Darwin himself expressed deep doubts about his own speculations and suppositions. If we look at Darwin's work and its inaccuracies from a logical perspective. We will discover the often ignored reasoning behind his own abandonment of some of the core mechanisms of evolution later in his life, though they remain unchallenged pillars of unquestioning science today. This informative and easy-to-read study boldly declares the powerful truth that only biblical creation can explain.

Book-Secrets of the sixth edition-
darwin discredits his own theory,
by
Randall Hedtke

 

[Shemjaza]

Darwin himself expressed deep doubts about his own speculations and suppositions. If we look at Darwin's work and its inaccuracies from a logical perspective. We will discover the often ignored reasoning behind his own abandonment of some of the core mechanisms of evolution later in his life, though they remain unchallenged pillars of unquestioning science today. This informative and easy-to-read study boldly declares the powerful truth that only biblical creation can explain.

Can you actually support this with any specifics and the context of his work?

 

[Psalm 27]

Can you actually support this with any specifics and the context of his work?

Secrets of the sixth edition-
darwin discredits his own theory,
by
Randall Hedtke

 

[Psalm 27]

Found an interesting fact about the flatworm.

apparently, if you cut one of their eyes off, it will grow back. This doesn't take millions of years to 'evolve'.

This sounds horrible, but If you decapitate it, it will grow a head back, with new eyes! Please don't try this at home

How advanced for an un-evolved creature...bet a human being can't do that. Or any mammal/animal for that matter.

Not so similar to creeping beasts after all, are we?
As Genesis says; He created them, each according to its kind. Genesis 1:24

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It would certainly help though, wouldn't it?

See #231. It would also need the text to be interpreted as being intended to be taken literally (which it gives every indication of not being).

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Found an interesting fact about the flatworm.

apparently, if you cut one of their eyes off, it will grow back. This doesn't take millions of years to 'evolve'.

You can cut flatworms in two and two flatworms will result - one grows a whole new head. The information to grow a flatworm is what evolved over millions of years. They have the advantage of being able use that information to regenerate parts of mature individuals. We can only use it to regenerate parts of certain organs (skin, liver, blood, etc). We now have some understanding of the mechanisms involved, so it's possible that we'll be able to work out how to regenerate more tissues after damage.

How advanced for an un-evolved creature...bet a human being can't do that. Or any mammal/animal for that matter.

All living creatures have been evolving for the same length of time - flatworms are as evolved as we are. They're not as complex as we are. Broadly, the more complex the organism, the less capacity for regeneration it has.

Not so similar to creeping beasts after all, are we?

Clearly not - we're primates, mammals, vertebrates; flatworms are platyhelmithes, invertebrates.

 

[Shemjaza]

Secrets of the sixth edition-
darwin discredits his own theory,
by
Randall Hedtke

Haven't read it, but I've looked over a couple of commentaries... and I'm unimpressed.

Darwin isn't the prophet of evolution if his every idea was mistaken and every word was a deliberate lie then it wouldn't remove the evidence for evolution.

Can you present actual logical problems with the theory of evolution, not word choice problems and out of context quotes from a book that have been superseded by new evidence and new ideas for more than a century?