Was the first day of the week also called the Lord's day?

[Divide]

Exactly.

So what is the evening part of the first day, if the evening part of the seventh day is Friday evening.

The evening part of the first day of the week would be Monday morning, right?

If Friday evening is the beginning of the sabbath, then Monday evening is Tuesday morning the first part.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The evening part of the first day of the week would be Tuesday morning, right?

If Friday evening is the beginning of the sabbath, then Monday evening is Tuesday morning the first part.

No, the days starts in the evenings. Saturday the 7th day- the evening part is Friday evening and ends at sundown on the first day Saturday evening (Sunday). The evening part of the first day (Sunday) is Saturday evening.

 

[rstrats]

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When does the Sabbath start according to scripture?

My understanding is that it begins at sunset at the end of the previous day.

Or the evening part of the seventh day.

How are you defining evening, the time during when the sun starts going down from noon until sunset, or the time between sunset and the end of dusk, or the first half of a calendar day?

 

[rstrats]

The evening part of the first day of the week would be Tuesday morning, right?

What happened to Sunday?

 

[Divide]

What happened to Sunday?

That's going backwards.

Ok say it is the first day of the week, Sunday today. Now, comes evening so what do we have now? We have the beginning of Monday because it starts in the evening,

 

[rstrats]

Ok say it is the first day of the week, Sunday today. Now, comes evening so what do we have now? We have the beginning of Monday because it starts in the evening,

That's correct, if by evening you mean the night period of a calendar day. But in your post #41, you wrote "The evening part of the first day of the week [Sunday] would be Tuesday morning". How do you jump from Sunday to Tuesday?

 

[Divide]

That's correct, if by evening you mean the night period of a calendar day. But in your post #41, you wrote "The evening part of the first day of the week [Sunday] would be Tuesday morning". How do you jump from Sunday to Tuesday?

I guess I didn't type it right so that it was clear. It would be Monday.

 

[rstrats]

I guess I didn't type it right so that it was clear. It would be Monday.

Fortunately, the edit function stays available so that you can correct it.

 

[rstrats]

The evening part of the first day of the week would be Monday morning, right?

No, not if the term "evening" refers to the first half of a calendar day.

 

[Divide]

No, not if the term "evening" refers to the first half of a calendar day.

How can that be? Evening has meant the time of dusk and then night and it's the same everyday.

You are overthinking this.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

How can that be? Evening has meant the time of dusk and then night and it's the same everyday.

You are overthinking this.

The Jewish and Eastern Orthodox LITURGICAL day begins at sunset with the Vespers service. I believe the Oriental Orthodox church also follows this pattern. Not sure if Catholics follow that.

My church holds Vespers in our small chapel and not in the main church. It is quiet and very intimate. The service begins with the reading of Ps 104, "Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty."

The main hymn, the oldest known in the Christian world outside of the various hymns in scripture is Phos Hilaron, or "O Joyful Light".

In Greek,

In English

 

[rstrats]

How can that be? Evening has meant the time of dusk and then night and it's the same everyday.

Are you saying that a new calendar day doesn't begin at sunset?

 

[Divide]

Are you saying that a new calendar day doesn't begin at sunset?

Yes that was the premise. Like the secular world sees it. But we know that the day goes from sunset to sunset.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

The Roman time system is was we inherited. Noon, the high point of the sun, was considered the middle of the day. Midnight was the middle of the night. Apparently, the Jews did not count the nighttime hours,

John 11:9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in a day? If one walks during the day,d he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world.e

but the Romans used a watch system which Jesus references in Mark

Mark 13:35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

Jewish Time Divisions in the 1st Century AD

Roman timekeeping - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rstrats]

Yes that was the premise. Like the secular world sees it. But we know that the day goes from sunset to sunset.

Now I'm really confused. First you say that the new calendar day doesn't start at sunset and 2 sentences later you say that it does.

 

[Divide]

Now I'm really confused. First you say that the new calendar day doesn't start at sunset and 2 sentences later you say that it does.

It can be confusing when the secular world does not do things the same way God does. In the secular world the new day technically starts at midnight. Practically, for people, it begins when we wake up in the morning. Spiritually the calandar day should start at sunset and continue until the next sunset.

 

[rstrats]

It can be confusing when the secular world does not do things the same way God does. In the secular world the new day technically starts at midnight. Practically, for people, it begins when we wake up in the morning. Spiritually the calandar day should start at sunset and continue until the next sunset.

First let me say apologies to tonychanyt for being so far off from his OP.

And an apology to you, I misread your post. I see that you were saying that the secular world doesn't start a calendar day at sunset and not that you were saying that. You were saying that the calendar day goes from sunset to sunset.

Now then, back to my question; You wrote that "The evening part of the first day of the week [Sunday] would be Monday morning..."

You also wrote that evening has meant the time of dusk and then night.

Since dusk starts after sunset, how can it be any part of the previous calendar day? And for that matter, how does Monday, the 2nd day of the week, come into this?

 

[Divide]

First let me say apologies to tonychanyt for being so far off from his OP.

And an apology to you, I misread your post. I see that you were saying that the secular world doesn't start a calendar day at sunset and not that you were saying that. You were saying that the calendar day goes from sunset to sunset.

Now then, back to my question; You wrote that "The evening part of the first day of the week [Sunday] would be Monday morning..."

You also wrote that evening has meant the time of dusk and then night.

Since dusk starts after sunset, how can it be any part of the previous calendar day? And for that matter, how does Monday, the 2nd day of the week, come into this?

I was writing like how people think. They say today is Monday anda nice day but this evening it will rain. Ok so technically it will not be tonight it will be tomorrow morning. because the day starts at sunset. Right?

 

[rstrats]

I was writing like how people think. They say today is Monday anda nice day but this evening it will rain.

So you're referring to a midnight to midnight calendar day as well as to the second night time of the calendar day.

Ok so technically it will not be tonight it will be tomorrow morning. because the day starts at sunset. Right?

I thought you were talking about a midnight to midnight calendar day and as such it wouldn't be tomorrow morning but rather the first night time of tomorrow.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Apostle John mentioned "first day" in John 20:

There is 7 other places with the phrase "first day of the week".
All 8 of them is the "first work day" of the week in the n.t..

Later, the same John also mentioned "Lord's Day" in Revelation 1:

This message originated with the Father, who gave it to Christ;
then Christ gave it to an angel, and an angel reveled it to John.
There is also words in red-letters that Christ added Himself.
We know Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Revelation means the act of revealing or disclosing something.
The book of Revelation is/has prophecy disclosed in it. This book
gives us a timeframe, or a time sequence for prophecy in other books.

7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth
shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

This day mentioned was not a day per say like Sunday or Saturday.
The "Lord's Day" is The theme of the book of revelations. The time
frame right before Christ returns to earth. Elsewhere in the bible,
this same time frame "right before Christ returns" is called
"the day of the Lord". Some 30 verses deal with this time frame.

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The Day of the Lord is actually a year long event.
"For it is the day of the LORD 's vengeance, and the year
of recompences for the controversy of Zion. Isaiah 34:8 (KJV)

Some verses cover before, during, and just after His Return. For
example Zechariah 12:8 "In that day" is in this one year period.
8In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem;"..
.

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree
of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God Rev. 2:7.
Revelation 2:11, Revelation 2:17, Revelation 2:29,
Revelation 3:22, Revelation 3:6, Revelation 3:13.

Was the first day of the week also called the Lord's Day?

Never in the bible that I know of. Is there any verse that tell us to keep
the "first day of the week", or this "Lords day" anywhere in the bible?

NT alone does not say that explicitly.

There is no connection to the first day of the week
and the Lords day at all anywhere in the bible.

I think the Lord's Day was more likely the first day of the week than any other day of the week.

I think as shown above it was not any specific day of the week.