Was Kamala aware of Joe’s decline?

[RDKirk]

Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline?

If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

If she wasn’t, is she really the person to lead this country?

George Bush knew about Reagan's decline, yet the country voted for him to be president. And Reagan was actually long past the point of carrying out his duties at all...they weren't even taking matters to him anymore.

So, this wouldn't be the first time.

I've always said that Biden is too old...I said it before he was elected. Trump is also too old, and he's showing signs of decline as well.

The question is: Are people judging "too old" and "decline" in the same ways? I suspect not, and there would probably be lots of debate about it.

Biden is not past the point of carrying out his duties. At this point, it's his stamina that is questionable.

 

[Hammster]

George Bush knew about Reagan's decline, yet the country voted for him to be president. And Reagan was actually long past the point of carrying out his duties at all...they weren't even taking matters to him anymore.

So, this wouldn't be the first time.

I've always said that Biden is too old...I said it before he was elected. Trump is also too old, and he's showing signs of decline as well.

The question is: Are people judging "too old" and "decline" in the same ways? I suspect not, and there would probably be lots of debate about it.

Biden is not past the point of carrying out his duties. At this point, it's his stamina that is questionable.

Stamina? Mkay.

 

[JustOneWay]

It would mean she’s more concerned about herself than the country.

Yet the rightists whole-hardheartedly follow one.

 

[Hammster]

Yet the rightists whole-hardheartedly follow one.

This thread isn’t about the right.

 

[probinson]

Then why on God's green Earth would you support someone like Donald Trump?

Who says I support Donald Trump? Have you read anything I post on this forum?

Fact-checking organizations have proven tens of thousands of his statements to be complete falsehoods.

Yes. In fact, yesterday in a thread I started, I said that if Trump is talking, there's a good chance that he's lying.

1) It's the Liberal media, they are the real liars. Keep in mind that 75% of the United States media on all platforms is owned by donating Republicans.

They're not wrong. Trump lying doesn't preclude the media from also being incredibly biased and dishonest.

2) they wave it off and proclaim "Politicians lie." This is true in many cases but the sheer deluge of fiction he feeds to his followers who greedily sop up and spread is unfathomable. It's becoming like a cult where "The Great Leader) in incapable of wrongdoing or making mistakes. This is a truly staggering phenomenon.

I don't disagree. I'ver never understood the Republican's fascination with Donald Trump. But I was so disgusted with it personally that I changed my voter registration from Republican to Independent when he was elected the first time.

I wasn't even voting for Biden and I'm not voting for Harris. I am voting against Donald Trump.

I've said numerous times throughout this election cycle that it's the not-Trumps vs. the not-Bidens/Harrris. The more I talk with people about politics, the more I realize that's true.

He and his cult are truly frightening.

Meh.

So Harris' opinion of Biden's performance is not even relevant. Democrats had to dump Joe because they can't risk letting a megalomaniac be Commander-in-Chief.

Have you ever experienced deja vu? Perhaps you have forgotten that Trump was already president for four years. That too was the "Most Important Election of Our Lifetimes™" and none of the apocalyptic predictions came to pass.

Both candidates are awful.

 

[RDKirk]

Stamina? Mkay.

There is no indication Biden's comprehension is compromised.

What did you actually want? The GOP was calling on Biden to leave the race...you've gotten what you wanted. Did you expect the Democrats to just forfeit the race?

 

[childeye 2]

childeye 2 said: Have you considered that Harris sincerely didn't feel Biden had declined too far to do the job? Did you consider that if she did say something, cynicism could just as well contend that she only did so to get the nomination? <--- Devil= accuser/slanderer.

Yes, the first consideration is in the OP. The second one you bring up could be worse. It would mean she’s more concerned about herself than the country.

You don't seem to get it. The devil is a liar whose lies undermine the commandment to love others as oneself. I'm pointing out the devil in the cynicism of those words when I say Devil=accuser/slanderer. Those are not words spoken out of a grace through faith. They are insinuative. The devil is cunning, insinuating bad things about others without proof, whether they're coming or going. It's wicked to want to believe bad things said about others without proof.

Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. SO NO, the first consideration which shows grace through faith is NOT denoted in the OP. Since you believe the first consideration exists in the OP, apparently, you're deceived and unaware that you're slandering Harris. The devil is cunning.
2 Corinthians 11:3

SEE post#1--->Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline? If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far. If she wasn’t, is she really the person to lead this country?

Note that the OP is insinuating Harris should have told the people that Biden had "declined" too far. The OP does not denote any consideration that Biden had not become too old to do the job. The OP infers that if she was aware he was too old to do the job she should have told the country. Because if she wasn't aware he was too old to do the job, then she is too incompetent to lead the country. And the OP insinuates these things in the form of questions so that it can claim it didn't claim anything definitively.

Since you're claiming that the first consideration which shows grace through faith exists in the OP, apparently you don't see the false premise you're reasoning upon. Apparently, you're unaware that you're slandering Harris. Note that below again you're insinuating Harris is incompetent if not sinister, based on the same false premise.

childeye 2 said:
I agree he's 81 years old and his age shows.
Hammster said:
Yeah. Decline.
childeye 2 said:
So why insinuate something sinister about Kamala Harris?
Hammster said:
It isn’t necessarily sinister. It could be incompetence.

 

[Hammster]

There is no indication Biden's comprehension is compromised.

What did you actually want? The GOP was calling on Biden to leave the race...you've gotten what you wanted. Did you expect the Democrats to just forfeit the race?

If you can’t see it, nothing I say will convince you.

 

[Hammster]

childeye 2 said: Have you considered that Harris sincerely didn't feel Biden had declined too far to do the job? Did you consider that if she did say something, cynicism could just as well contend that she only did so to get the nomination? <--- Devil= accuser/slanderer.

You don't seem to get it. The devil is a liar whose lies undermine the commandment to love others as oneself. I'm pointing out the devil in the cynicism of those words when I say Devil=accuser/slanderer. Those are not words spoken out of a grace through faith. The devil is cunning, insinuating bad things about others without proof, whether they're coming or going. It's wicked to want to believe bad things said about others without proof.

Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. SO NO, the first consideration is NOT denoted in the OP. Since you believe the first consideration exists in the OP, apparently, you're deceived and unaware that you're slandering Harris. The devil is cunning.
2 Corinthians 11:3

SEE post#1--->Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline? If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far. If she wasn’t, is she really the person to lead this country?

Note that the OP is insinuating Harris should have told the people that Biden had "declined" too far. The OP does not denote any consideration that Biden had not become too old to do the job. It clearly expresses that if she was aware he was too old to do the job she should have told the country. If she wasn't aware he was too old to do the job, then she is not fit to lead the country. And the OP insinuates these things in the form of questions so that it can claim it didn't claim anything definitively.

Since you're claiming that the consideration exists in the OP, apparently you don't see the false premise you're reasoning upon. Apparently, you're unaware that you're slandering Harris. Note that below again you're insinuating Harris is incompetent if not sinister, based on the same false premise.

childeye 2 said:
I agree he's 81 years old and his age shows.
Hammster said:
Yeah. Decline.
childeye 2 said:
So why insinuate something sinister about Kamala Harris?
Hammster said:
It isn’t necessarily sinister. It could be incompetence.

Um…okay?

 

[childeye 2]

childeye 2 said:
Since you're claiming that the consideration exists in the OP, apparently you don't see the false premise you're reasoning upon. Apparently, you're unaware that you're slandering Harris. Note that below again you're insinuating Harris is incompetent if not sinister, based on the same false premise.

Um…okay?

Devil=accuser/slanderer. Are you okay with slander? I'm not a Trump supporter because Trump slanders anyone who is against him, and it's wicked to want to believe bad things said about others without proof. Do you think Trump supporters for the most part are okay with slander?

 

[Hammster]

childeye 2 said:
Since you're claiming that the consideration exists in the OP, apparently you don't see the false premise you're reasoning upon. Apparently, you're unaware that you're slandering Harris. Note that below again you're insinuating Harris is incompetent if not sinister, based on the same false premise.

Devil=accuser/slanderer. Are you okay with slander? I'm not a Trump supporter because Trump slanders anyone who is against him, and it's wicked to want to believe bad things said about others without proof. Do you think Trump supporters for the most part are okay with slander?

I honestly don’t know what you are trying to communicate here. I’m sure the fault lies with me.

 

[civilwarbuff]

I think he might struggle to condense something into 30-seconds, but I don't think he would ramble aimlessly like Biden did.



I don't like being lied to and gaslit. I suspect I'm not alone.

For years the Democrats and the legacy media tried to pretend like everything was fine with Biden until it was an absolutely untenable position. Joe Scarborough said this about Biden in March:

"Start your tape right now, cause I'm about to tell you the truth. And F U if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close second."​

You can hear it for yourself at the 2-minute mark in this video:

Remarkably, this was just 4 months ago. That clip certainly has not aged well.

Wonder if Joe needs some mustard to coat all those words he now has to eat?

 

[childeye 2]

I honestly don’t know what you are trying to communicate here. I’m sure the fault lies with me.

I don't actually count it as your fault, as if you are deserving of blame, so don't beat yourself up, too much. Devil=accuser/slanderer and the devil is cunning. Using semantics, with subtlety the devil can manipulate people and cause them to slander others without them being aware of what they are doing. He does this by getting them to accept a false premise without their being consciously aware of it.

Look at these two statements:
(1) Righteousness is by grace through faith.
(2) Unrighteousness is without grace through cynicism.

To prejudge means to judge others without any adequate information. (1) denotes a positive prejudice (Grace/faith). (2) denotes a negative prejudice (cynicism).

I'm trying to communicate that I/you/others are deceived when we become convinced from some source of political propaganda that intends to slander others. When/If we repeat it, then we too are engaging in negative prejudice and slander.

Slander is saying bad things about others without proof, and it is wrong. So, the devil will say something like "It's not slander if it's true", to make it look like it's okay to slander others until somebody can prove the slander is not true. But this still violates loving others as oneself. So, one must combat the devil by saying, "It's wicked to even want to believe bad things said about others". <--- This is about spiritual warfare. Note that it's righteous to want to believe good things said about others.

In this case, the fact of the matter is that there has been no proof presented that Biden was/is too old to do the job. The clear signs of his age showing, only means it is open to speculation. To definitively infer that he is too old to do the job is a false premise based on negative prejudice not facts.

The OP insinuates Kamala Harris is untrustworthy for either not telling the American people that Biden was too old to do the job, or for not being aware he was too old to do the job. But since there is no definitive proof Biden was too old to do the job, it amounts to practicing negative prejudice, slandering Kamala Harris, and not loving others as yourself, all based on accepting a false premise.

 

[eleos1954]

Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline?

If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

If she wasn’t, is she really the person to lead this country?

They were all aware .... the whole nation saw it ... it was obvious.

 

[eleos1954]

Wonder if Joe needs some mustard to coat all those words he now has to eat?

He was used until he was no longer useful and tossed aside like a dirty kleenex.

 

[childeye 2]

He was used until he was no longer useful and tossed aside like a dirty kleenex.

Used by who? Where is your proof? Do you intend to slander someone directly?

 

[Hammster]

I don't actually count it as your fault, as if you are deserving of blame, so don't beat yourself up, too much. Devil=accuser/slanderer and the devil is cunning. Using semantics, with subtlety the devil can manipulate people and cause them to slander others without them being aware of what they are doing. He does this by getting them to accept a false premise without their being consciously aware of it.

Look at these two statements:
(1) Righteousness is by grace through faith.
(2) Unrighteousness is without grace through cynicism.

To prejudge means to judge others without any adequate information. (1) denotes a positive prejudice (Grace/faith). (2) denotes a negative prejudice (cynicism).

I'm trying to communicate that I/you/others are deceived when we become convinced from some source of political propaganda that intends to slander others. When/If we repeat it, then we too are engaging in negative prejudice and slander.

Slander is saying bad things about others without proof, and it is wrong. So, the devil will say something like "It's not slander if it's true", to make it look like it's okay to slander others until somebody can prove the slander is not true. But this still violates loving others as oneself. So, one must combat the devil by saying, "It's wicked to even want to believe bad things said about others". <--- This is about spiritual warfare. Note that it's righteous to want to believe good things said about others.

In this case, the fact of the matter is that there has been no proof presented that Biden was/is too old to do the job. The clear signs of his age showing, only means it is open to speculation. To definitively infer that he is too old to do the job is a false premise based on negative prejudice not facts.

The OP insinuates Kamala Harris is untrustworthy for either not telling the American people that Biden was too old to do the job, or for not being aware he was too old to do the job. But since there is no definitive proof Biden was too old to do the job, it amounts to practicing negative prejudice, slandering Kamala Harris, and not loving others as yourself, all based on accepting a false premise.

I never said anything about Biden being too old. So where does that leave your accusation?

 

[Hammster]

They were all aware .... the whole nation saw it ... it was obvious.

So what does that say about Harris?

 

[Pommer]

Perhaps some do, but my father is 87-years old and I treasure his wisdom. Sure, he shows signs of aging, but he's all there mentally, and possesses literal decades of experience and wisdom.

OTOH, Biden often just rambles incoherently. He has two tells; "look" and "anyway". These are his go to key words when he loses his train of thought, which is quite often.

Does your dad get in front of television camera and have the weight of the free world on his shoulders while being there?

 

[JustOneWay]

Perhaps some do, but my father is 87-years old and I treasure his wisdom. Sure, he shows signs of aging, but he's all there mentally, and possesses literal decades of experience and wisdom.

OTOH, Biden often just rambles incoherently. He has two tells; "look" and "anyway". These are his go to key words when he loses his train of thought, which is quite often.

Comparing talking to a father in a home setting to a President giving speeches in front of crowds....interesting. Have you ever had a personal discussion with Joe Biden? If so I would consider that a fair comparison, not the one you posted.