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Was Kamala aware of Joe’s decline?

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She was under no obligation to divulge private information just the same as Mike Pence never divulged that Trump was planning on overturning a fair election.
So you think she knew, but kept it to herself. Okay.
 
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I never said anything about Biden being too old. So where does that leave your accusation?
Your statement is not relevant since "declined" too far and getting too "old", are not mutually exclusive; the common denominator of practical application is, declined in the ability to do the job.

childeye 2 said:
Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. When you claim that she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far, then you present a contradiction in reasoning when you ask did she know he was in decline.

Do you realize you're reasoning on a falsehood?


Hammster said:
In order to know if he declined too far, she’d have to know he was in a decline.
So basically it’s, WHAT did she know, and when did she know it?
<---
See that WHAT there?

You do not qualify "Bidens decline". It is WHATever Kamala knows about it that will qualify what decline means with no other specification. It's just a blank negative connotation of decline, whether we say Biden is declining in mental acuity, or whether we say he is getting too old.

Hammster said:
And many prominent people on the left were vocal. But not Kamala.
childeye 2 said:
Agreed. All the prominent people I saw, that had said Biden should step aside, also said they felt he was fit to be President, but that his age was too negative of a factor as a candidate.

Hammster said:
I apologize. I guess you do agree with the rest of the world that Biden is in serious decline.
childeye 2 said:
I agree he's 81 years old and his age shows.
Hammster said:
Yeah. Decline.
childeye 2 said:
So why insinuate something sinister about Kamala Harris?
Hammster said:
It isn’t necessarily sinister. It could be incompetence.
 
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Does your dad get in front of television camera and have the weight of the free world on his shoulders while being there?

Please. This was tried yesterday. It was lame then, and it is even more lame now.

There is absolutely no comparison between any average senior citizen and a career politician that has spent the last 50 years of his life in front of television cameras.
 
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Comparing talking to a father in a home setting to a President giving speeches in front of crowds....interesting. Have you ever had a personal discussion with Joe Biden? If so I would consider that a fair comparison, not the one you posted.

It's amusing to me that you think you can't have an opinion on Biden unless you've had a personal discussion with him. ^_^
 
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Your statement is not relevant since "declined" too far and getting too "old", are not mutually exclusive; the common denominator is declined in the ability to do the job.

childeye 2 said:
Any reasoning based on a falsehood ends in a contradiction. When you claim that she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far, then you present a contradiction in reasoning when you ask did she know he was in decline.

Do you realize you're reasoning on a falsehood?


Hammster said:
In order to know if he declined too far, she’d have to know he was in a decline.
So basically it’s, WHAT did she know, and when did she know it?
<---
See that WHAT there?

You do not qualify "Bidens decline". It is WHATever Kamala knows about it that will qualify what decline means with no other specification. It's just a blank negative connotation of decline, whether we say Biden is declining in mental acuity, or whether we say he is getting too old.

Hammster said:
And many prominent people on the left were vocal. But not Kamala.
childeye 2 said:
Agreed. All the prominent people I saw, that had said Biden should step aside, also said they felt he was fit to be President, but that his age was too negative of a factor as a candidate.

Hammster said:
I apologize. I guess you do agree with the rest of the world that Biden is in serious decline.
childeye 2 said:
I agree he's 81 years old and his age shows.
Hammster said:
Yeah. Decline.
childeye 2 said:
So why insinuate something sinister about Kamala Harris?
Hammster said:
It isn’t necessarily sinister. It could be incompetence.
I never mentioned age. You did.
 
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I never mentioned age. You did.
And when I did, you said: "Yeah. Decline." <--- that's an affirmation.

But it doesn't matter how we qualify decline you still slandered Kamala Harris.

Hammster said:
I apologize. I guess you do agree with the rest of the world that Biden is in serious decline.
childeye 2 said:
I agree he's 81 years old and his age shows.
Hammster said:
Yeah. Decline.
childeye 2 said:
So why insinuate something sinister about Kamala Harris?
Hammster said:
It isn’t necessarily sinister. It could be incompetence.
 
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And when I did, you said: Yeah. Decline. <--- that's an affirmation.

Not really. Age and decline are not synonymous. It's entirely possible to be in mental decline at a young age. Likewise, it's possible to be at a very advanced age and still be cognitively fit.

I have no doubt that Democrats will suddenly become aware of the problems age presents to a candidate now that they've dumped Biden and turn their sights on Trump's age. But It will come across as hollow and hypocritical for as long as they were willing to turn a blind eye to Biden's cognitive decline. When Trump starts standing frozen with his mouth agape and wandering off randomly or shaking hands with people who aren't there, then they'll have an equal comparison.
 
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Not really. Age and decline are not synonymous.
They are when decline is qualified as the effects of getting old.
It's entirely possible to be in mental decline at a young age. Likewise, it's possible to be at a very advanced age and still be cognitively fit.
This is neither here nor there.
I have no doubt that Democrats will suddenly become aware of the problems age presents to a candidate now that they've dumped Biden and turn their sights on Trump's age.
That's not sound reasoning. Everyone knows that both candidates are old and that it effects one's abilities.
But It will come across as hollow and hypocritical for as long as they were willing to turn a blind eye to Biden's cognitive decline.
Cognitive decline? A blind eye? Hypocritical? That's just more slander when you believe, and you repeat these things without proof.
When Trump starts standing frozen with his mouth agape and wandering off randomly or shaking hands with people who aren't there, then they'll have an equal comparison.
You watch too much propaganda.
 
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They are when decline is qualified with the effects of getting old.

They're not.

My wife's grandfather lived to the ripe old age of 99. Up until just 4 months before his death, he was literally putting a roof on his house. He exhibited almost no decline whatsoever up until the last few weeks of his life.

This is neither here nor there.

Sure it is. It illustrates clearly that one's cognitive state is not necessarily tied to their age.

That's not sound reasoning. Everyone knows that both candidates are old and that it effects one's abilities.

Sure it does. As people age, their abilities are most certainly affected. But to what degree? It's not the same for everyone.

Cognitive decline?

Yes.

A blind eye?

Yes. Until his disastrous debate performance made it impossible to ignore.

That's just more slander when believe and you say these things without proof.

There's been plenty of proof. None that you'd accept I suspect, but proof nonetheless.

You watch too much propaganda.

So you're telling me that Biden doesn't wander off awkwardly and shake hands with people who aren't there?

Or who can forget...

"Four more years. Pause."
-Joe Biden
That's not propaganda. It's reality.
 
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The Bee is on point!

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Hammster said:
I never mentioned age. You did.
childeye 2 said:
And when I did, you said: "Yeah. Decline." <--- that's an affirmation.

No. It’s not. Stop slandering (since that’s your thing).
Sorry Hammster, but you're just wrong about this. I'm not slandering you just because you claim "Yeah" is not an affirmation in agreement with what you said yeah to.

The way "decline" is qualified is actually irrelevant. Because the slander against Harris, is that Harris was either aware of Biden's decline and didn't say anything like she said she would, or she was not aware and therefore should have been aware. I'm pointing out that you're slandering Kamala Harris whether she was aware or not aware, based on the unproven premise that Biden had definitively declined too far to be able to do the job. Because you give no consideration that Kamala Harris could have been aware of Biden's decline in age but sincerely felt Biden had not declined in age too far to not be able to do the job, you show no grace through faith.

childeye 2 said:
Have you considered that Harris sincerely didn't feel Biden had declined too far to do the job? Did you consider that if she did say something cynicism could just as well contend that she only did so to get the nomination? Devil= accuser/slanderer.
"If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far."

Hammster said:
Yes. That was option 2.
childeye 2 said:
Respectfully, what you call "option two" does not denote that Harris could have felt Biden had not declined too far. The inference built into the op insinuates that Harris either didn't know Joe was in decline, or she did know he had declined too far but didn't tell the American people.
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So, I want to say on the record, that I'm not slandering anyone by pointing out that the term "decline" is objectively about Biden's age. Nor does it make me a slanderer because you didn't mention it. But getting back to this claim that the word decline in the OP is NOT referring to the effects of age on Biden. See below.

Hammster said:
Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline? If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

Was Kamala aware of Joe’s decline? <--- This link is for your post #14. There you will find a media link to x.com which you presented to show where Harris is seen saying she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

Below is the original interview.
Go to 12:50 to see the context of the question Harris is being asked. The interviewer will say: "The reason why I'm asking the question is because of his age." He will proceed to convey that he is speaking objectively, not subjectively.

Go to 13:50 to see that Kamala Harris understands the question is about Biden's age.
Go to 15:00 to see where Kamala Harris conveys that she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

 
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They're not.
As pertains to this thread, "decline" is actually referring to Bidens age and the effects of age. See the video in post#137.

Sure it is. It illustrates clearly that one's cognitive state is not necessarily tied to their age.
I get that, but we are talking about what qualifies Biden's "decline" as presented in the OP.
There's been plenty of proof. None that you'd accept I suspect, but proof nonetheless.
I don't just accept blank assertions, and I'm particularly wary if they intend to make me think something bad about someone without adequate evidence. I've seen videos of Biden supposedly "wandering away" and "shaking hands with nobody". They all turned out to be propaganda.

So you're telling me that Biden doesn't wander off awkwardly and shake hands with people who aren't there?
I've seen videos where he was shown gesturing to the audience or someone in the audience and it was being insinuated that he was reaching out to shake hands with nobody there. I've seen what was called wandering off in videos that had edited out that he was walking to a sky diver who had just landed in a field. I've seen videos edited to look like he was trying to sit down where there was no chair, etc...
 
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Was Vice President Harris aware of President Biden’s decline?

If she was, what does that say about her, especially since she said she would say something to the American people if the president declined too far.

If she wasn’t, is she really the person to lead this country?
This sounds like a reverberation from the same echo chamber that has produced calls to impeach Vice-President Harris for failing to invoke Article 25 of the Constitution to replace the president.
 
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This sounds like a reverberation from the same echo chamber that has produced calls to impeach Vice-President Harris for failing to invoke Article 25 of the Constitution to replace the president.
It is a coordinated effort. Harris has certainly caused a stir, and now the attacks from all angles is underway.
 
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This sounds like a reverberation from the same echo chamber that has produced calls to impeach Vice-President Harris for failing to invoke Article 25 of the Constitution to replace the president.
Or….it could just be a question for discussion. Since he thought of impeachment never crossed my mind, and I’m the OP, I think I’ll go with what I posted and take it at face value.
 
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