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That conclusion is counter to Romans 6:3-7.No you don't get both the question and this Bible verse.
Jesus , Yah and Holy Spirit never sinned .
This verse is talking when you become born again after being sealed by Holy Spirit Ephesians 1:13-14. God gives you new life a new nature and it's called in Bible "new man" and the sinful old nature is called "old man".
You will never have anything from this live if you live as old man everything you do in flesh will burn in fire , everything you do in spirit as "new man" will be tested by fire and give you rewards .
It is true since you became born of God the 2nd you the spirit is not able to sin and not able to die you will live forever but God didn't kill your flesh and you are prisoner of it either till ressurrection or untill you die and get new body at ressurrection.
A second repentance from sin means the first one was a lie to God.Count me out as someone who believes you cannot sin after being saved. If this was true, why would the Catholics even think about confessing their sins to priests? Why would Christians ask God for forgiveness, even though they know Jesus has already done that? Clearly Scripture says we should continue to repent. If we are told in the Bible to confess our sins after being saved, it is ridiculous to believe we can no longer sin after a certain date.
You must also not believe the "doctrine which is according to Godliness"...(1 Tim 6:3)
Why do you think 1 John 3:9 is...wrong?..."Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
Can grape vines bear figs?
Why don't you believe 2 Cor 5:17?..."Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
Why do you think Romans 6:7 is wrong?..."For he that is dead is freed from sin."
Sister, this is very interesting! ... I am not sure!
Some of these things are a mystery!
I will say it again ... some very unpopular spiritual truths
are "somewhat hidden" in the NT ... for various reasons!
Perhaps, someone might feel led to start a thread about this!
Mark 16:15-18 ... Is this where you got the idea that ...
the baptism with the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation (16:16)?
Yes, most of this spiritual power is different than the 1 Cor 12 gifts,
which come from receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
Sorry, I don't believe a word of this!!!Mark 16:16-18 is why I call the first filling the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" and the second, additional filling(s). (They can be multiple). And why this is when a believer is born again of the Spirit.
Acts 1:5 (First filling)
5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Acts 4: (Second filling)
29 Now, Lord, look on their threats, and grant to Your servants that with all boldness they may speak Your word, 30 by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.”
31 And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness.
Sorry, I don't believe a word of this!!!
What do you think about John 20:21-22
So Jesus said to them again,
“Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.”
And when He had said this, He breathed on them,
and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit."
Sorry, I don't believe a word of this!!!
I really didn't "apply" them to anything.I believe those Scriptures which you quote are divinely inspired. I just can't adopt your application of them.
The "any one" are those not yet in Christ.It all hinges on what “cannot sin” means 1 John 3:9. If we say it is what it is, then so is the description of sin in 1 John 2:1, “My little children, these things I write to you, that ye may not sin: and if any one may sin, an advocate we have with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one”.
Then you must also believe that fig trees can bear grapes.My sense of the Scriptures is that 1 John 3:9 means cannot commit the sin that “leads unto death” (1 John 5:16-19), if one “abides in the vine” (John 15:5-8).
So Thomas wasn't born again?Apostles:
1. John 20 (born again)
2. Acts 2 (ministry, Joel 2 was interpreted by prophecy)
So ten of the apostles were born again twice?1. Acts 2 (born again)
2. Acts 4 (ministry)
So Thomas wasn't born again?
He was not present at the John 20 episode.
The point nullifies your POV.
The "any one" are those not yet in Christ.
John is telling his "children" how those who are not yet "children", but seeking an advocate, can rely on Christ Jesus for the graceful blessing of His intercession.Well, Phil, that's the crux of the matter. That would be taking "My little children" (in the same verse), those in Christ, whom the author is talking to, and then wresting the meaning away from the addressee/believer to the unbeliever. Doesn't flow.
Would you please provide the scripture stating that view?To be born again, we must receive the Holy Spirit.
I doubt Thomas was kicked out, as the gift of the Holy Ghost had yet to be given to anyone till the day of Pentecost.Jesus knows that and could have blown on Him when Thomas doubted Him. Can you show that Thomas was kicked out of the group? I doubt that.
Would you please provide the scripture stating that view?
I doubt Thomas was kicked out, as the gift of the Holy Ghost had yet to be given to anyone till the day of Pentecost.
It is written..."And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me." (Acts 1:4)
They were still waiting long after Jesus' ascension.
Yes, it does appear that the 12 discipesApostles:
1. John 20 (born again)
2. Acts 2 (ministry, Joel 2 was interpreted by prophecy)
120 disciples:
1. Acts 2 (born again)
2. Acts 4 (ministry)
Yes, it does appear that the 12 discipes
were born again in John 20:22.
I thought everyone knew that
on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2)
the 120 (including the 12 disciples) ...
received the baptism with the Holy Spirit
(with the evidence of speaking in tongues).
They obviously were born again also.
Acts 4:31 sounds the same as the Day of Pentecost
(everything was shaken), so I have to assume
that those folks (not the 120)
received the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
They obviously were born again also.
The problem with your Mark 16 is there is NO mention of:There are two manifestations of tongues.
Mark 16:16-18 when you are born again to pray perfect prayer (my words) or praise, even as a choir as the 120 did on the Day of Pentecost. INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE USE TO GOD. Interpretation may happen, but is not necessary as God knows what is being said, and it is TO Him. This tongue is not from 1 Cor. 12, they were heard PRAISING GOD.
Note, that when becoming born again, the person in Mark 16:16-18 may speak in tongues. But if they don't, it doesn't mean they haven't been born again for power over sin. Chains of unbelief from Cessationism must be removed first.
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