Please interpret 1 John 3:9. If someone doesn't practice murder, do they even commit it once?
You are trashing a very important Scriptural doctrineYou use Pentecostal jargon; I use Scripture. There ARE two experiences with the Spirit. Acts 2, and Acts 4. First is for individual power over sin, and the armor of God. These have been born again of God. The second is for boldness and additional gifts for ministry.
There's two other people who didn't sin, The Holy Spirit, and The Father.I know that Jesus was tempted in every way, yet did not sin. From conception He had the seed of the Father. Thus He was born of God.
1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
This means those that receive the baptism of the Spirit have the "seed of God" in them. But there are two others I'm curious about.
What about John the Baptist. He received the Holy Spirit while in Elizabeth's womb.
And what about Enoch who walked with God, and He took him.
Were John the Baptist and Enoch considered sinners by God, and did they ever sin while on earth?
Do you also realize that many Christians use Romans 3:23; Romans 7:14-23; and 1 John 8:1 to justify a Christian sinning?
The truth is there is a before and after Christ.
Why not?His mother never sinned. The Son of God could not be born of a sinner.
His mother never sinned. The Son of God could not be born of a sinner.
Jesus did not have the stain of sin on him, which is why he had to be born of a virgin. John the Baptist and Enoch both had the stain of Adam on them, as they were fathered by other men.I know that Jesus was tempted in every way, yet did not sin. From conception He had the seed of the Father. Thus He was born of God.
1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
This means those that receive the baptism of the Spirit have the "seed of God" in them. But there are two others I'm curious about.
What about John the Baptist. He received the Holy Spirit while in Elizabeth's womb.
And what about Enoch who walked with God, and He took him.
Were John the Baptist and Enoch considered sinners by God, and did they ever sin while on earth?
I think he's talking about a physical person, as in flesh and blood. Jesus was the only human being who was able to be perfect, since He was also God.There's two other people who didn't sin, The Holy Spirit, and The Father.
Never met one who wasn't a sinner.
I think Paul was the one that said, if we think no sin is in us, we are a liar.
Not a direct bible quote.
Memory test.
M-Bob
You are trashing a very important Scriptural doctrine
when you claim that BACs (who have received the Holy Spirit inside) ...
actually received "the baptism with the Holy Spirit", which is referred to in
Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 11:15-17.
This baptism allows people to receive one or more of the 9 spiritual "power" gifts,
which are described in 1 Corinthians 12.
Can you elaborate please? I don’t quite understand what you mean.
Jesus did not have the stain of sin on him, which is why he had to be born of a virgin. John the Baptist and Enoch both had the stain of Adam on them, as they were fathered by other men.
I know that Jesus was tempted in every way, yet did not sin. From conception He had the seed of the Father. Thus He was born of God.
1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
This means those that receive the baptism of the Spirit have the "seed of God" in them. But there are two others I'm curious about.
What about John the Baptist. He received the Holy Spirit while in Elizabeth's womb.
And what about Enoch who walked with God, and He took him.
Were John the Baptist and Enoch considered sinners by God, and did they ever sin while on earth?
We are born INTO a sin condition where we do not walk alonside God in Paradise.
THIS is not Paradise. We are born into a sin condition.
Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—
Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.
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