Was Jesus married?

[Melethiel]

The Bride of Christ is the Church. Scripture makes that abundantly clear.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The Bride of Christ is the Church. Scripture makes that abundantly clear.

Actually the bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem that is taken from the church as the living stones built up to become the spiriual house. Nevertheless as the 10 virgins the betrothal is as yet just that. The consumation is in Revelations. The 'church' according to Jesus, is the Spirit speaking in the spirit of mankind. That is what the church is built upon. The virgins not ready, Matt 25, are of the nations.....imo

 

[Thekla]

She was supposed to have been a red head too and everyone knows red headed women are irresistible

Thank-you.

But I think there is good reason why these "gospels" are not accepted.

 

[VivaCristoRey]

Actually the bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem that is taken from the church as the living stones built up to become the spiriual house. Nevertheless as the 10 virgins the betrothal is as yet just that. The consumation is in Revelations. The 'church' according to Jesus, is the Spirit speaking in the spirit of mankind. That is what the church is built upon. The virgins not ready, Matt 25, are of the nations.....imo

Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: that he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular love his wife as himself: and let the wife fear her husband.

The Bride of Christ is the Church, which is also called the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of God and the New Jerusalem. Jesus isn't a polygamist, He isn't married to both the Church and the New Jerusalem, they are the same thing.

 

[William_0]

I think it would be great if Jesus was married to a woman!

 

[KrimsonDraegon]

With respect,

Life expectancy in the ancient world was not much over 40 years of age. (Here, here, and here)

Marriage is a mitzvah (Hebrew: Commandment) fulfilled between a man and a woman. Mitzvah are not polite suggestions and no Jew is held to be exempt from this commandment unless physically or mentally incapable. (Here, here, here, and here)

In Ancient Israel anyone not married by their twentieth year (or there abouts) was considered cursed by God:

The fact that “[cleaving] unto [one’s] wife” was required in the first century by Jews is evident from teachings of the day. “It is thus considered the duty of every Israelite to marry as early in life as possible. Eighteen years is the age set by the Rabbis; and any one remaining unmarried after his twentieth year is said to be cursed by God Himself.” ~ Cyrus Adler, Gotthard Deutsch, Louis Ginzberg, Richard Gottheil, Joseph Jacobs, Marcus Jastrow, Morris Jastrow, Jr., Kaufmann Kohler, Frederick de Sola Mendes, Crawford H. Toy, Isidore Singer, The Jewish Encyclopedia (New York: Funk & Wagnalls Company, 1901), 347,

Jesus was called "Rabbi" (Hebrew: teacher) by His followers. To be a Rabbi one must have been married:

Jewish law stated, “Only married men were engaged as teachers.” ~ Adler, The Jewish Encyclopedia, 37.

There are multiple verses that strongly suggest that Jesus favored Mary of Magdalene

Prior to His Crucifixion and Resurrection, Mary washed the Lord’s feet.According to Jewish tradition feet washing, was a service which the wife was expected to render her husband…it was one of the personal attentions to which her husband was entitled, no matter how many maids she may have had; likewise, according to the Babylonian Talmud, besides preparing his drink and bed, the wife had to wash her husband’s face and feet. ( Adler, The Jewish Encyclopedia, 357.)

When Jesus was resurrected Mary approached Him and attempted to touch Him, to which He responded:

“Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father”

With all due respect, it takes a great deal of ignorance and narrow-mindedness to even remotely suggest that Jesus of Nazareth lived and died a bachelor.


With peace,


~ Shaeykh

 

[Thekla]

There were cases of celibates: the Thereputae, possibly the Essenes, John the Baptist, Elias, Jeremiah, and others (for example rabbi Shimon son of Azzai).

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The Bride of Christ is the Church, which is also called the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of God and the New Jerusalem. Jesus isn't a polygamist, He isn't married to both the Church and the New Jerusalem, they are the same thing.

Rev 21:9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came to me and talked with me, saying, “Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,



Please show me where else it describes the bride...

 

[Thekla]

"Daniel Boyarin, a remarkably insightful scholar of Rabbinic Judaism, has pointed out that, while Rabbinic Sages did not permit the

institution of ascetic celibacy de jure, many of them did tolerate it in an attenuated form de facto.

(Carnal Israel; Reading Sex in Talmudic Culture, D. Boyarin; Berkeley et al, U. Calif. Press, 1993)

Palestinian Sages, for example, feeling that men are - or by nature ought to be - capable of resisting sexual desire,

encouraged a long apprenticeship in Torah, well past sexual maturity, before a disciple should marry."

Martin S. Jaffe, U. of Washington
credentials, see http://jsis.washington.edu/faculty/jaffee.shtmlfrom,

Page 47-48 Inner -Worldly Monasticism; Toward a Model of Rabbinic-Halakhic Spirituality (CfTOS Press, Etna Cali. 2006, from a lecture by the author)

 

[Ishraqiyun]

I tend to think Jesus was celibate as well. Personally I don''t see the references to "kisses" as implying that they had a carnal sexual relationship. Just that they loved one another. It could also be a spiritual metaphor. If there was a sexual relation (and there is no strong evidence to support that claim) I'm sure it would have been tantric or spiritual in nature.

 

[Noxot]

Song 1:2 (ESV)
(1:2) ​​​​​​​Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth!........

yeah and she loves Him very much.

 

[VivaCristoRey]

Rev 21:9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came to me and talked with me, saying, “Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,



Please show me where else it describes the bride...

Did you want me to re-post the passage I just did?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Did you want me to re-post the passage I just did?

What passages were they? I saw your interpretation of betrothel. Go back and read about the 5 foolish virgins.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The Bride of Christ is the Church, which is also called the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of God and the New Jerusalem. Jesus isn't a polygamist, He isn't married to both the Church and the New Jerusalem, they are the same thing.

Not to be redundant but you quoted only one passage which can explain the church as the female counterpart of God, so I take this from an old thread found here http://www.christianforums.com/t7458845-4/#post57611755

Hosea 2:16
"At that time,"declares the Lord,
"you will call, ‘My husband’
you will never again call me ‘My master.

　
The MT reads תִּקְרְאִי (tiqrÿ’i, "you will call"; Qal imperfect 2nd person feminine singular).
There are wordplays on the termsאִישׁ (’ish) and בַּעַל (ba’al) here. The term אִישִׁי (’ishi, "my man, husband") is a title of affection (Gen 2:23; 3:6, 16) as the counterpart to אִשָּׁה (’ishah, "woman, wife")
Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible
　
　
And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord,… The Gospel day, the times of the Gospel dispensation, the latter part of them; at the time of the conversion of the Jews, and the bringing in of the fulness of the Gentiles; at the time when God will allure and persuade them to seek the Messiah, and they shall turn to him; when he shall speak comfortably to them, and give them a door of hope, and all spiritual blessings, and cause them to sing as when they came out of Egypt:
　
that thou shalt call me Ishi; or, "my husband"
　
Returning to Christ their first husband, and being received by Him, their desire to Him, and full assurance of it; shall not only be allowed to call him their husband and say as the church did, "my beloved is mine, and I am his", Song 8:14, or, "my man"
　
The man the Lord, the man Jehovah's fellow, Immanuel God with us, God in human nature; and so more manifestly points at Christ, who stands in the relation of a husband to his people: or, "my strength", as some interpret it; the husband being the strength, protection, and defence of the wife, the weaker vessel; so Christ is the strength of his saints, in whom they have righteousness and strength, and through whose strength they can do all things:
　
Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord. There is no other God;
I am the only God.
I will make you strong,
even though you don't know me,
　
and shalt call me no more Baali; which means "my master" "Baali" represents lordship and fear.
Saints don't have the spirit of bondage to fear, but the spirit of adoption, whereby they call God their Father, and Christ their husband.It shouldn't ne mentioed because it may led to thinking of that idol, and remember him, which the Lord would not be linked to.

Hosea 2:17
I will never let her say the names of Baal again;
people won't use their names anymore.
　
Exodus 23:13
"Be sure to do all that I have said to you. You must not even say the names of other gods; those names must not come out of your mouth.
　
Zechariah 13:2
The Lord All-Powerful says, "At that time I will get rid of the names of the idols from the land; no one will remember them anymore. I will also remove the prophets and unclean spirits from the land.

　"And it comes to pass in that day, is the saying of Jehovah, thou wilt call, My husband; and thou wilt no more call to me, My Baal." The church will then enter once more into the right relation to its God. That is, the church as the feminine singular and the Lord as the man.

 

[William_0]

What does anyone have to lose if Jesus was married?

 

[Melethiel]

What does anyone have to lose if Jesus was married?

The truth of the Scriptures.

 

[KrimsonDraegon]

What does anyone have to lose if Jesus was married?

The fact that they, their Church, and their dogma were wrong for years.

Think back to Catholicism and a flat earth and the hissy fit they had, no offense Catholics, and you get the idea.

~ Shaeykh

 

[KrimsonDraegon]

The truth of the Scriptures.

The truth of the Scriptures does not pivot on such an insignificant point as Jesus' marriage.

~ Shaeykh

 

[VivaCristoRey]

Not to be redundant but you quoted only one passage which can explain the church as the female counterpart of God, so I take this from an old thread found here

Could you give me your understanding of those passages, because to me it seems clear that the Church is the Bride of Christ? Do you have passages that say that the Church is not the Bride of Christ?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Actually the only passage you quoted was this

Eph 5:22-33

Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: that he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular love his wife as himself: and let the wife fear her husband.


and I dont even think it relates to what I was saying to Melithiel
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