Was Charles Darwin a fraud?

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yup.

On paper.

I've said this here a zillion times, and I'll say it again:

Evolution is nothing more than a game of connect-the-dots.

And that's only a problem for you. Acknowledge that you don't truly know anything and everything and the universe becomes a lot more wondrous.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's the Earth, as Created by God, and what it has to show us about the evolution of life on the Earth.

Did your earth show Jean-Baptiste Lamarck lamarckism?

 

[River Jordan]

Natural selection in helping us understand how pathogens evolve ways around our efforts to control them so that we can save and improve lives is one thing.

Natural selection in helping us understand how we came from Magilla Gorilla is another.

We are not, nor have ever been, Mangani.

That wasn't the point of the exchange.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Is this true, folks?

Biblical Creation Evidence | We know evolution is a lie, no proof period, well guess what not only is the theory of evolution a lie, it's supposed author is also a liar. | Facebook

We know evolution is a lie, no proof period, well guess what not only is the theory of evolution a lie, it's supposed author is also a liar.

www.facebook.com

Was Alfred Russell Wallace a fraud, too? No, I think not.

People need to refrain from thinking that the Theory of Evolution is the "main event" of debate. It's not.

 

[AV1611VET]

But in some cases researchers use their understanding of evolutionary relationships to help them figure out which genetic sequences to look at, or what certain sequences do.

Nice.

Gitter done.

Are you actually saying you think scientists should utilize the Bible in their work but only in a way that reflects your interpretations and beliefs?

Let me say this again.

The Bible neither needs to be invoked, nor contradicted, in working with microevolution.

Why does Roundup™ have to be made stronger and stronger each year?

Microevolution.

And not because plants came from some common ancestor a billion years ago.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The Bible neither needs to be invoked, nor contradicted, in working with microevolution.

Why?

 

[River Jordan]

Nice.

Gitter done.



Let me say this again.

The Bible neither needs to be invoked, nor contradicted, in working with microevolution.

Why does Roundup™ have to be made stronger and stronger each year?

Microevolution.

And not because plants came from some common ancestor a billion years ago.

Again, just who do you think you are? You really believe scientists the world over should do their work in accordance with your beliefs? Not mine, not anyone else's but yours?

 

[Reneep]

But in some cases researchers use their understanding of evolutionary relationships to help them figure out which genet and that is only sad.ic sequences to look at, or what certain sequences do.

Are you actually saying you think scientists should utilize the Bible in their work but only in a way that reflects your interpretations and beliefs?

No but a relationship with the Son , Spirit and Father would reveal truth that sets men free instead of sending them to hell. There is no truth thus no real life in darwins work, it is only vanity and death. They are worshiping Death as their creator. And their own ignorance .. so Death is their god. So I am done. The old racist man knows his mistakes now. And that is so sad.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yet life evolves.

It sure does.

Else I would look exactly like my dad (or mom, however that's supposed to work).

God's own Creation, as Created by God is showing us that's how God Creates new life forms.

God can create all the new life forms He wants to.

He can make a Qud sum tomorrow, if He so desires.

But that is NOT an example of macroevolution.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Again, just who do you think you are? You really believe scientists the world over should do their work in accordance with your beliefs? Not mine, not anyone else's but yours?

Yes, Independent Baptists, along with other Christian groups who have similar interpretive methods, approach "biblical truth" in an ironclad, literal way.

I'm not sure why any of us are surprised by this. Personally, I just roll with it ............................................ and focus on what really matters.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No but a relationship with the Son , Spirit and Father would reveal truth that sets men free instead of sending them to hell. There is no truth thus no real life in darwins work, it is only vanity and death. They are worshiping Death as their creator. And their own ignorance .. so Death is their god. So I am done. The old racist man knows his mistakes now. And that is so sad.

And evolution says nothing about salvation, for or against. All it does is explain how biological life became as we see it now.

 

[AV1611VET]

... and your desire to intentionally mislead with you only quoting the subtitle of Darwin's book is telling.

Proverbs 12:22

Are you talking about the book, Origins?

Romans 2:1

 

[2PhiloVoid]

And evolution says nothing about salvation, for or against. All it does is explain how biological life became as we see it now.

Yes. I agree. The real culprit here is the ever present fallacy of "The Slippery Slope" which nearly all fundamentalists affirm with every ounce of their inner being. It's an unfortunate thing, really. But it is what it is and, like I said above, I just roll with it.

 

[River Jordan]

No

We agree then that scientists should do their work as they see fit.

but a relationship with the Son , Spirit and Father would reveal truth that sets men free instead of sending them to hell.

Amen.

There is no truth thus no real life in darwins work, it is only vanity and death.

That's just not true. I cited to you the example of natural selection, something we actually see happen, and how our knowledge of it improves and saves lives.

They are worshiping Death as their creator. And their own ignorance .. so Death is their god. So I am done. The old racist man knows his mistakes now. And that is so sad.

Who is the "they" you're referring to?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Are you talking about the book, Origins?

You darn well know I am. Again; Proverbs 12:22 in response to you only using the subtitle to refer to it to mislead people.

 

[AV1611VET]

And that's only a problem for you. Acknowledge that you don't truly know anything and everything and the universe becomes a lot more wondrous.

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

 

[Reneep]

Yet life evolves. God's own Creation, as Created by God is showing us that's how God Creates new life forms.

Now that is a jump from here to the moon. It Proves no such thing. I am de evolving not getting better physically, i'm dying not being created. Where He heals me that spot he touched got better, but I am not getting better everywhere.

 

[River Jordan]

Yes, Independent Baptists, along with other Christian groups who have similar interpretive methods, approach "biblical truth" in an ironclad, literal way.

I'm not sure why any of us are surprised by this. Personally, I just roll with it ............................................ and focus on what really matters.

Oh sure they obviously have their beliefs, just as we all do. The difference I see though is how AV seems to think every scientist in the world should do all their work in line with his beliefs. I don't know very many people with that level of hubris.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

You darn well know I am. Again; Proverbs 12:22 in response to you only using the subtitle to refer to it to mislead people.

Warden, you need to realize you're fighting his interpretive framework. AV didn't create his own interpretive framework, and since it's socially created, you're actually bashing your intellectual fists against an impenetrable wall.

Give your knuckles a rest, bro.

 

[AV1611VET]

That wasn't the point of the exchange.

Whatever.