Was 911 an inside job?

[Gukkor]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Incredibly crude and callous? Perhaps, but he makes some very good points.

 

[Carey]

so now what?

Where does this fit in with prophecy?

 

[Gukkor]

so now what?

Where does this fit in with prophecy?

Does it have to?

 

[applepowerpc]

No, but to fit in this forum it does.

 

[Gukkor]

No, but to fit in this forum it does.

Oh, heh, right. Forgot which forum I was in.

 

[gwynedd1]

so now what?

Where does this fit in with prophecy?

I think 9/11 staged would indicate that the relationship of US govenment and its electorate have been severed. In other words, it would indicate a power outside national control. This would be a sign of a world power that fits the Revelation prophecy. This is especially true since the west is trying to line up the Islamic world to its interests as a result of 9/11.

 

[Micahyah]

so now what?

Where does this fit in with prophecy?

Watchman Comment: While most Christians will readily admit that we are living in the last of the last days, it is amazing how most do not give any credence to what we were warned would be the psychological climate of these times. The Word specifically deals with the psychological climate of the last days because God knew that these days would be utterly confusing, filled with the grossest of lies and deceptions, called in the Word — Strong Delusion!
So just what is the definition of strong delusion? In three words, CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD! This word conspiracy is what many Christians have trouble with, even though God Himself warned of a great conspiracy that would be brought against the people of the world by a group of master deceivers, and just what does a master deceiver do? He deceives, and claims that anyone who has figured out his deception is a conspiracy theory nutcase, in order to continue cloak his deception.
Now mix this strong delusion of conspiracy with what the word describes as, Lying Wonders. This is the combined formula at work in the world today, the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians, strong delusion and lying wonders.
9-11 was an obvious lying wonder, where we are told that a 757 got sucked into a sixteen foot hole and that buildings fell into their own basements because of fires on only a few floors; that nineteen Arabs, operating out of a cave in Afghanistan totally spoofed the world greatest defense department, yet no one was fired or admonished, only promoted!!! Katrina was another lying wonder, but I will refrain from going into the details here.
These two prophetically combined elements, lying wonders and strong delusion are what most of you are suffering from today, SDLW Syndrome, and it is your responsibility to be healed of it and come out of the strong delusion and no longer believe the lying wonders.
Though we would like to blame wicked and evil people or Satan himself for the strong delusion and mass deceptions being perpetrated in the world today, God specifically states that HE sent the strong delusion, not Satan!​

“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:11​

Why in the world would God send a strong delusion, so strong that if it were possible, it would fool even the elect? The answer should make you shudder to your core and re-access your relationship with God, as most Christians are extremely caught up in the strong delusion.​

“That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:12​

There is the answer. If we compromise the teachings of Yahshua, in favor of government policy and propaganda that are the antithesis of the teachings of Yahshua we are immediately sucked into the endtime strong delusion prophesied to come, that is here now. The strong delusion was sent by God to separate the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares, and it is truly disgusting to watch.
I am appalled at how so many Christians have become war-mongers, pro-torture, pro-empire, pro-Bush, pro-lies, pro-deception, pro-murder of innocents at all cost; Christians who applaud the destruction of other fellow Christians homes and lives at the hands of an anti-Christ government (Israel-Lebanon conflict). Christians who ignore the fact that their fearless, so-called Christian leader lied and deceived an entire nation and the entire world into the war in Iraq, a Christian president who gives the finger more than some demon possessed rock star! A so-called Christian who is a self proclaimed member of a satanic society called, Skull and Bones. A president that has broken so many laws, both domestically and internationally that even unbelievers in the press have labled him as The Lawless One, not realizing they are quoting prophecy. This is the meaning of:​

“That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:12​

This prophecy is being fulfilled NOW by all of us in one way or another. Either by your turning away from the true teachings of Yahshua - you are caught in the snare of deception to your own damnation (the Word above is clear on this) or by your acknowledging the truth of all matters in the light of the teachings of Yahshua, you have come out of the deception and are willing to face the reality and not the lies.
We have been so trained to think that everything in the last days was going to be some spiritual event that we have fallen hook line and sinker into what God warned us of - the strong delusion. Not willing to use our God-given critical thinking to connect the dots of obvious frauds and deceptions, so afraid to be classified as a conspiracy theory lunatic, but that is the only way we will ever be able to break out of the strong delusion of lies and deception we are in right now.
Unlike unbelievers who figure out that we have been deceived and go off on rampages to reveal the truth of the conspiracies and formulate ideas that are ineffective, the people of God need to use their critical thinking just to be aware of what is truly transpiring and not the lies being perpetrated by the conspirators and their false prophet, the mainstream media.
The Christian needs to cling to truth, regardless how uncomfortable that truth may be. Most will not do this and would instead glaze themselves over with the untrue herd mentality which I call the Christian Borg Collective, wherein critical thinking is not allowed, only acceptance of whatever the masses believe, true or not. This is extremely displeasing to God, as He has given each of us the gift of reason, but reason seems to be an unwanted attribute in today's climate of fear, paranoia and mass delusion. We just don't want to know the truth, and think that God is pleased with His people acting like non-thinking dunces.
I always tell God's people, if you truly want to understand what is happening in this hour of confusion and fear, ask God to let you see the world through His eyes. For those who have asked this, they have been rudely awakened to the reality behind the mask of deception. Why do we need to see things as they truly are? That we may pray with greater understanding and meaning, according to the truth and not falsehoods and fear.​

www.watchmanreport.com

 

[ChrisWin1]

appalling thread.

 

[icedtea]

No, its food for thought, really.

 

[Kathy]

Im still hanging on to...no..not a inside job...

 

[Carey]

Im still hanging on to...no..not a inside job...

Happy Birth day and I think there might have been soem insiders who with held info.

But not our Government as w whole of course.

 

[Ave Maria]

No, it was not.

 

[icedtea]

You're sure about that?

 

[Micahyah]

Five Years After and We Still Don’t Know
By Paul Craig Roberts, 09/07/06 "Information Clearing House "
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14874.htm

In the five years since three World Trade Center buildings collapsed into their own footprints in virtually free fall time, the convincing power of the official explanation of that day’s events has evaporated. Polls show that 36% of Americans do not believe the official account. As Lev Grossman writes in Time magazine (September 3, 2006), “Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality.”

Grossman acknowledges that alternative explanations of 9/11 are more compelling than the official explanation. Grossman offers a psychological explanation for the success of alternative explanations: “a grand disaster like Sept. 11 needs a grand conspiracy behind it.”

However, Grossman’s psychological explanation fails on its own terms. Which is the grandest conspiracy theory? The interpretation of 9/11 as an orchestrated casus belli to justify US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, or the interpretation that a handful of Muslims defeated US security multiple times in one short morning and successfully pulled off the most fantastic terrorist attack in history simply because they “hate our freedom and democracy”? Orchestrating events to justify wars is a stratagem so well worn as to be boring. Indeed, it is the fantastic conspiracy of the official explanation that makes it unbelievable. [...]

 

[Driver]

"Scholars for 9/11 Truth" makes September 6 headlines in the Daily Mail (UK):

Fury as Academics Claim "9/11" Was An Inside Job​

The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.

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Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries​

The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.​

But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest conspiracies ever perpetrated....​

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770​

 

[Tamara224]

Was 911 an inside job? Is there truth in the conspiracy theories?

No. 9/11 was not caused by the U.S. Government.

I think people have it so good in America that they don't even realize how good they have it. If it wasn't for the good things about America no one would have the opportunity to concoct these absurd and outlandish conspiracy theories.

Do people not realize the bureaucracy involved in our government? Do you not understand the number of people that get involved in government action; how many ropes there are to jump through and how many people have to know about a thing before it can be accomplished? So many many people that it's impossible that all of them are so corrupt they would go along with it or at least not spill the beans.

Conspiracy theorists tend to forget that average, everyday, normal people work for the government, and make up the bureaucracy that is the government. Those everyday people are just as likely to want to kill their fellow citizens as the corner grocer in your neighborhood. Conspiracy theorists try to paint a picture of big powerful evil men pulling the strings of a country without any accountability... That's simply not the case in this country. That's not how our government works. Simple truth.

 

[djbcrawford]

How much red tape, bureocracy and normal people did it involve to convince everyone that Sadam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction, when the opposite was the case?

 

[Tamara224]

How much red tape, bureocracy and normal people did it involve to convince everyone that Sadam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction, when the opposite was the case?

Better question... how many people in the media did it take to make everyone believe anyone lied about WMDs?

 

[brother daniel]

No. 9/11 was not caused by the U.S. Government.

I think people have it so good in America that they don't even realize how good they have it. If it wasn't for the good things about America no one would have the opportunity to concoct these absurd and outlandish conspiracy theories.

Do people not realize the bureaucracy involved in our government? Do you not understand the number of people that get involved in government action; how many ropes there are to jump through and how many people have to know about a thing before it can be accomplished? So many many people that it's impossible that all of them are so corrupt they would go along with it or at least not spill the beans.

Conspiracy theorists tend to forget that average, everyday, normal people work for the government, and make up the bureaucracy that is the government. Those everyday people are just as likely to want to kill their fellow citizens as the corner grocer in your neighborhood. Conspiracy theorists try to paint a picture of big powerful evil men pulling the strings of a country without any accountability... That's simply not the case in this country. That's not how our government works. Simple truth.

Beloved sister Tamara,
Are you a disciple of Jesus Christ?

Average every day people do not get elected or appointed to government office.

No matter how good and comfortable a material life you and I have had here in the United States, our Government has a history of fraud and deception since the Constitution was writen.

We are calledd to follow no man except Jesus. Every political icon has feet of clay.

As disciples we war not against flesh and blood, but against POWERS, Principlaities, the RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS WORLD, and SPIRITIAL WICKEDNESS in high places.

9/11 was used by our president to make war on IRAQ who had nothing to do with 0/11.

Gangesters rule the United States Government and very few say anything about it because they are afraid they will lose their Job, credit, be imprisoned or killed.

War is a racket and our president is a war monger taking from the poor and giving to the rich.

I pray for our leaders but they dont seem to be hearing from God.
With love in Christ
brother daniel

 

[djbcrawford]

Better question... how many people in the media did it take to make everyone believe anyone lied about WMDs?

Who's the conspiracy theorist now...