Warp Drive-how feasible?

[Radrook]

When if ever will warp drive become a reality? I would like to hear opinions on this fascinating subject. After all, if warp drive doesn't become reality then interstellar travel becomes exceedingly impractical and we would be more or less restricted to the exploration of our solar system and forever out of touch with the far distant reaches of our universe. Not that the exploration of our solar system is in any way boring since there is plenty to explore and to learn. Only that human curiosity understandably aspires for far more.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Well I'd say no only because I don't think we will be around that long. But lets say God decided to delay His return for a couple thousand years.... maybe. Or at least science says according to things work in the universe it could be doable. Would it ever get done? I don't think so. I'm sure we will come up with faster ships of course.

 

[Radrook]

Well I'd say no only because I don't think we will be around that long. But lets say God decided to delay His return for a couple thousand years.... maybe. Or at least science says according to things work in the universe it could be doable. Would it ever get done? I don't think so. I'm sure we will come up with faster ships of course.

So what exactly is it that prevents you from concluding that it can ever be done? Also, how would the Lord's return prevent mankind from inventing the warp drive? Are you saying that such an attempt is contrary to God's will? You believe that the Earth will become totally devoid of human population as a consequence of the Lord's arrival?

 

[friend of]

Impossible to harness enough energy. A little while ago I believe 2 black holes cannibalize eachother and the result was a graviton ripple in the fabric of spacetime smaller than 1mm

In other words, to actually warp/bend spacetime/create a wormhole you'd need to harness more energy than a black hole. I fail to see how even Kardeshev's theoretical type III civilization could accomplish something like that.

 

[scottyp588]

We don't have the technology for it yet. To bend space time in such a way requires a tremendous amount of energy. We may get there one day but It is pretty far out.
To give a little perspective about the speed of light. Our fasted spacecraft (which I believe was Helios 2) has only gone about .02% the speed of light. Not even a 5th of a percent. Cosmically speaking we are super slow.
So the combination of resources, energy, and money can't get us close to warp drives yet, unfortunately.

 

[Radrook]

Impossible to harness enough energy. A little while ago I believe 2 black holes cannibalize eachother and the result was a graviton ripple in the fabric of spacetime smaller than 1mm

In other words, to actually warp/bend spacetime/create a wormhole you'd need to harness more energy than a black hole. I fail to see how even Kardeshev's theoretical type III civilization could accomplish something like that.

Is a wormhole necessary for warp drive? I thought wormholes were short cuts.

 

[Radrook]

We don't have the technology for it yet. To bend space time in such a way requires a tremendous amount of energy. We may get there one day but It is pretty far out.
To give a little perspective about the speed of light. Our fasted spacecraft (which I believe was Helios 2) has only gone about .02% the speed of light. Not even a 5th of a percent. Cosmically speaking we are super slow.
So the combination of resources, energy, and money can't get us close to warp drives yet, unfortunately.

Then there is the time dilation problem that we encounter the closer we approach luminal velocity. Such a problem would be avoided via the warp drive. So that's another benefit.

 

[mcarmichael]

Seem more likely we'll destroy the oceans and then either asphyxiate or starve to death, first ... If we don't have a nuclear war.

 

[BubbaJack]

Have you seen Event Horizon? Its not a good idea to pursue this.

 

[Radrook]

Seem more likely we'll destroy the oceans and then either asphyxiate or starve to death, first ... If we don't have a nuclear war.

Because of Trump?

 

[Radrook]

Have you seen Event Horizon? Its not a good idea to pursue this.

That was a scary film! Yikes! Try to go fast and wind up in the bowels of hell? LOL!

 

[mcarmichael]

Because of Trump?

No.

 

[Radrook]

No.

Oh, just our inherent tendency to self-destruct.

 

[mcarmichael]

Oh, just our inherent tendency to self-destruct.

That, plus apathy.

 

[SkyWriting]

When if ever will warp drive become a reality? I would like to here opinions on this fascinating subject.
After all, if warp drive doesn't become reality then interstellar travel becomes exceedingly impractical and we would be more or less restricted to the exploration of our solar system and forever out of touch with the far distant reaches of our universe. Not that the exploration of our solar system is in any way boring since there is plenty to explore and to learn. Only that human curiosity understandably aspires for far more.

I don't see how one could warp space, or create a wormhole
without any passengers experiencing extreme distortion.

At some point I imagine your body being stretched out
over a few hundred miles (at least.) We are not that elastic.

 

[timewerx]

I'd say a bit optimistic.

It turns out my work that I posted here a few months back might be showing a possibility of a gravity-like force being generated. Gravity warps space-time.

It won't be until the late 2017 that I can resume work on the drive which is only a simple but specific arrangement of electrodes and special dielectric to achieve unequal electric field force in space. The field structure is actually similar to the field structure of the Earth's Van Allen Radiation belts and similar fields may also manifest in the Sun's photosphere.

 

[SkyWriting]

We don't have the technology for it yet. To bend space time in such a way requires a tremendous amount of energy. We may get there one day but It is pretty far out.
To give a little perspective about the speed of light. Our fasted spacecraft (which I believe was Helios 2) has only gone about .02% the speed of light. Not even a 5th of a percent. Cosmically speaking we are super slow.
So the combination of resources, energy, and money can't get us close to warp drives yet, unfortunately.

There is the likelihood that such shortcuts would still
follow the rules of relativity, so what was 10 minutes
in a wormhole would be millions of years on earth.

So the Cosmos may be cold black dust by the time you
get out the other side an hour later.

 

[makeajoyfulnoise100]

I'm looking at this like wait...Star Trek right? Fascinating how powerful a sci-fi writer can be. Take it from someone who's written sci-fi and is still having moral dilemmas over space whales and what religions even exist in sci-fi. It's very unlikely for warp drive to exist since one would need enough energy and speed to dash from even one sector of the galaxy to the next.

And I'd say for humans to exist in a wormhole even with enough energy to create a warp drive the human would have to be genetically altered enough to withstand existing in a wormhole.

 

[timewerx]

I'm looking at this like wait...Star Trek right? Fascinating how powerful a sci-fi writer can be. Take it from someone who's written sci-fi and is still having moral dilemmas over space whales and what religions even exist in sci-fi. It's very unlikely for warp drive to exist since one would need enough energy and speed to dash from even one sector of the galaxy to the next.

And I'd say for humans to exist in a wormhole even with enough energy to create a warp drive the human would have to be genetically altered enough to withstand existing in a wormhole.

I've been on a real work on an advanced space propulsion system since the 80's. A pure electric propulsion which recently I've seen signs of artificial gravity field (gravity which can warp space) being generated.

I've ceased work atm and would resume work in the 4th quarter of this year, hoping to get more results and more extensive testing.

One thing, it may not take incredible amounts of energy to warp space or produce incredible force for propulsion. You can use the ambient energy of space at the quantum level and use it directly for propulsion through the process of "negative entropy".

A well-colliminated gravity/warp field should not cause dangerous tidal forces for anyone completely inside the field. The shape of the vessel and warp drive comes into play here....Sorry, Star Trek Federation starships are unworkable designs for warp travel. A cigar-shaped craft is best suited for warp travel and ironically, the borg cube works out as well but not as efficient as cigar-shape.

Hopefully by early next year I'll get substantial results.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

When if ever will warp drive become a reality? I would like to here opinions on this fascinating subject.

Considering our current understanding that the speed of light is a physical "speed limit" for objects traveling in the space-time continuum, it seems as if our current knowledge labels warp-drive as being "impossible".

After all, if warp drive doesn't become reality then interstellar travel becomes exceedingly impractical and we would be more or less restricted to the exploration of our solar system and forever out of touch with the far distant reaches of our universe.

Not necessarily...
It would just take us decades / centuries / millenia to reach other systems in the milky way. We could do this by having space ships big enough so that people can live and reproduce there as if it were some kind of city. Or we could imagine some kind of cryogenics technology where people are "put to sleep" for the duration of the trip.
Or perhaps by that time we will have the technology to simply reverse or halt "aging" and become basically pretty much immortal (in that sense).


But it certainly isn't very practical.


In any case, I think we've only just scratched the surface when it comes to space travel and "crazy physics". So who knows what the future will bring.

It's certainly worth mentioning that MANY of the "science fiction" technologies that were introduced in the early days of star trek, are actually a reality today. Some of which are, today, seen as completely trivial.

Like for example, doors that open automatically once you approach them. Totally trivial today. But crazy magical hi-tech when introduced in early science fiction.

So who knows....