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want to talk about OSAS?

Are you an OSAS believer?

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  • of course

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yes just like judas............

just like the phariess in Matthew 23

thats the difference between a real relationship with Christ and religion.

next.....................

Judas was call a demon by the lord since the beginning. He followed our lord, because he thought he was going to be an earthly king. Three years past and they were still poor, and people wanted them murder. So he sold the lord Jesus as a way to escape persecution and earn the money he so much loved. His heart never believe in the word of God.
 
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I see. I imagine that Jimmy Swaggart and the pedophile priests thought the same. Are you incapable of sinning?
Its called deception for a reason and Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. A good tree produces good fruit. You should be concerned about yourself not me.

hope this helps !!!
 
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Its called deception for a reason and Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. A good tree produces good fruit. You should be concerned about yourself not me.

hope this helps !!!
Friend, you are capable of sinning. And you are capable of committing the very sins that St. Paul warns about. Do not be deceived, lest you find yourself falling into them. Have a nice day.
 
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Hmm. How would you answer the question, if I asked you not to quote Sacred Scripture in your answer?
I’m not sure what you mean. The passage clearly explains who the sheep are.
 
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Now if I could only get the good Christians on this site to say that about members of my denomination.
What does you denomination have to do with it?
I leave you all for a few hours and your smacking each other.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it doesn't have to be an educated one. Interpretation makes it impossible to make it factual as each person might have a different interpretation of the same scripture. And some can be lost in the translation. Some may be more intelligent then others so be kind and teach patiently . I haven't gone to bed yet so kindly have a good attitude and keep it friendly because I can't babysit for a few hours. You all keep each other on the straight and narrow.
Let the holy spirit guide you
 
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Let us all know when you come down from your high-horse, and we can continue the discussion. Have a nice day.
 
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LOL yes - I saw your later post & realized you wouldn't like it. Nevertheless, my question (which you haven't answered) still remains.

I asked you who they were, to be sure you know, before I go on, so I am in the process of answering. do you not want to tell me who "they" are for some reason? And no, I don't mind at all, why would I not like it?


The message that "does not sink deep" implies a superficial experience of it only. That's why they don't remain when tribulation comes. There was never a deep penetration to the soul level. That's why John is on to something.

You are making that up, there is no need for implications or guessing games here, the scripture clearly says a "believer", and the believer fell away. Doesn't matter if he was a weak believer...point made.

Thanks just the same for looking, seeing the believer fell away and seeing that you have evaded clear scripture. That is all I can expect from some here, and it serves the same purpose.
 
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repeat your question again and it will be answered. I'm getting slammed with opposition so I might not remember you question off the top of my head. Thanks.

I told you how to get to it but you are pretending you missed the post in order to continue to evade the question.

But no worries, I didn't expect you to answer.
 
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I told you how to get to it but you are pretending you missed the post in order to continue to evade the question.

But no worries, I didn't expect you to answer.
Repost it and I will answer, I'm not going to search through the thread. If that is to bothersome for you then so be it and you really don't want answer form me.
 
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Repost it and I will answer, I'm not going to search through the thread. If that is to bothersome for you then so be it and you really don't want answer form me.

Or since you skipped the question to begin with, how rude is it to ask me to go find it for you even after I also told you how to find it..

No fair, but I expect any excuse possible, even to the point of being unfair so again, no worries..
 
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Or since you skipped the question to begin with, how rude is it to ask me to go find it for you even after I also told you how to find it..

No fair, but I expect any excuse possible, even to the point of being unfair so again, no worries..
then give me a link if you don't want to repost it as I cannot find it.
 
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The devil believes so what ?

James 2
What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

The above in James is the same as the parable of the sower, its why Jesus cursed the unfruitful Fig Tree. Faith without words is a dead faith just like an unfruitful tree its as good as dead. A living faith produces Good works as per Ephesians 2:10.

Ephesians 2:8-10.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Luke 8
“This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. 13 Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. 14 The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. 15 But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.

hope this helps !!!
 
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No idea what all that is for. I asked you early on if you did not intend to answer the very simple question to just say so, so i don't waste the time trying to get an answer out of you.

Wish you'd a just had the decency to do that.
 
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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin: for his seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (NCPB)


"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1 John 1:10
 
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You are making that up

It's my opinion & it's not baseless. Matthew says they have no root. Mark says they have no depth of earth. If they don't run deep, the implication is they run shallow - ie a superficial experience. You can see the same in cultural Christians which consider themselves Christians because they grew up in a Christian family, in a Christian country, not because they have any real experience with the Lord himself.

there is no need for implications or guessing games here, the scripture clearly says a "believer", and the believer fell away. Doesn't matter if he was a weak believer...point made.

You can believe the message, even desire it, without receiving Christ, who made this distinction himself :

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5:39-40
 
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I've already covered that question, can we move to the one you were asking now.

l only need to know that you are certian who "they" are, that way I can know you have read the scripture you posted in context.
 
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