Walmart

[Deidre32]

'Awry' because it has met the public's needs and also turned a profit?


I believe you, but there is nothing immoral about earning a profit.


No Wal Mart does that. The attempt to put one in this town where the people have been asking for one for at least 15 years has been held up by innumerable environmental studies, zoning appeals, and etc. So we still have a vacant lot but with curbs.

There is no "steamrolling" going on here or elsewhere.


I agree that this is how it seems "to you."

No, it's not my opinion. Walmart is not an ethical retailer but if you think so, shop there all you like. You will be contributing to their greed.

 

[Albion]

No, it's not my opinion. Walmart is not an ethical retailer but if you think so, shop there all you like. You will be contributing to their greed.

It's just your opinion if you have no facts to back up the claims. As we've seen, you don't.

By the way, I'm always amused at the charge that a business is "greedy" if it wants to turn a profit and so be able to pay its employees, but customers who want something for less than market value...or employees who want more in salary than their education and labor are worth...are NOT greedy.

Often in political debates, it's the most stinging word that is used, whether or not it has any connection to reality.

 

[Deidre32]

You have acces to google lol I recommend you research the unethical business practices of Walmart because clearly you don't know that they operate that way. Turning a profit isn't greed. Turning a profit at the expense of the community and its employees, is why walmart is unethical. Why do you think they can charge such low prices as compared to their competitors? Because their competitors are scrupulous whereas Walmart is not.

I'm amused that you don't know that.

 

[RDKirk]

You have acces to google lol I recommend you research the unethical business practices of Walmart because clearly you don't know that they operate that way. Turning a profit isn't greed. Turning a profit at the expense of the community and its employees, is why walmart is unethical. Why do you think they can charge such low prices as compared to their competitors? Because their competitors are scrupulous whereas Walmart is not.

I'm amused that you don't know that.

And yet, as has been mentioned, Wal-Mart hires people that other stores will not.

 

[Steve77]

I do agree that these mega stores do harm many small businesses. But there are positive things about these types of stores. Like how they concentrate all items in one area. So that you don't have to go out of your way for what you want.

 

[Albion]

I do agree that these mega stores do harm many small businesses. But there are positive things about these types of stores. Like how they concentrate all items in one area. So that you don't have to go out of your way for what you want.

Yes, but also, let's consider the fact that a small business can, by being more efficient, convenient, or customer-oriented, "do harm" to many (other) small businesses.

That's what competition is all about, and that's the main gripe that people have against WalMart--that WalMart is more popular with buyers! What kind of a misplaced criticism is that?

 

[sarxweh]

If Walmart is a place you go to feel good about yourself, you're probably going for the wrong reasons

 

[Albion]

If Walmart is a place you go to feel good about yourself, you're probably going for the wrong reasons

I must have missed where anyone theorized that people go to WalMart because it makes them feel better about themselves.

 

[bhsmte]

If Walmart is a place you go to feel good about yourself, you're probably going for the wrong reasons

I go to Wal Mart to save money on the products I buy. It does make me feel good when I get the same products for less.

 

[Albion]

I go to Wal Mart to save money on the products I buy. It does make me feel good when I get the same products for less.

Yes, but that's quite a different thing.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, but that's quite a different thing.

Well, I guess some consumers are; "feel good consumers" and others are more "analytical" consumers like myself.

When I go to a restaurant, I am more concerned about the quality of the food than I am the atmosphere. When I buy a car, I buy from the dealership with the best price, not the dealership with a fancy showroom or more friendly salesman.

 

[Albion]

Well, I guess some consumers are; "feel good consumers" and others are more "analytical" consumers like myself.

When I go to a restaurant, I am more concerned about the quality of the food than I am the atmosphere. When I buy a car, I buy from the dealership with the best price, not the dealership with a fancy showroom or more friendly salesman.

Understood, but you do not walk into the showroom a cringing wallflower with no self-esteem...and then are turned into a person who can take on the world purely because of the nature of the business. That's why the comment you referred to is, well, silly. We all are pleased when we get a good deal, but it has nothing to do with revolutionizing our estimation of own worth.

 

[bhsmte]

Understood, but you do not walk into the showroom a cringing wallflower with no self-esteem...and then are turned into a person who can take on the world purely because of the nature of the business. That's why the comment you referred to is, well, silly. We all are pleased when we get a good deal, but it has nothing to do with revolutionizing our estimation of own worth.

All depends what floats your boat I guess.

On big purchases, I research the products intensely and then I go looking for the best price for that same product. When I accomplish that, I have met my goal and feel good about not paying more than I had to.

 

[keith99]

I go to Wal Mart to save money on the products I buy. It does make me feel good when I get the same products for less.

The problem is often you do not get the same product for less. You get an inferior version of what looks like the same product for less.

Check the SKUs. They have been known to be different, special Walmart versions that look the same but are not.

 

[Albion]

The problem is often you do not get the same product for less. You get an inferior version of what looks like the same product for less.

But it's not the 'same' product in that case, is it? I mean, WalMart doesn't do what the dollar stores do, which is sell a smaller quantity of the name brand at a lesser price and make it seem like a discount, nor does it put imitation (whatever) into boxes that say Wheaties, Scott tissues, or Craftsman tools.

 

[bhsmte]

The problem is often you do not get the same product for less. You get an inferior version of what looks like the same product for less.

Check the SKUs. They have been known to be different, special Walmart versions that look the same but are not.

I have done that and the products are the same I could buy at Target across the street.

 

[RDKirk]

Well, I guess some consumers are; "feel good consumers" and others are more "analytical" consumers like myself.

When I go to a restaurant, I am more concerned about the quality of the food than I am the atmosphere. When I buy a car, I buy from the dealership with the best price, not the dealership with a fancy showroom or more friendly salesman.

I can vary on such things. Sometimes I am going out, such as to dinner, for the ambience. Sometimes quality follows price.

But I'm never buying mouthwash for the ambience.

 

[RDKirk]

The problem is often you do not get the same product for less. You get an inferior version of what looks like the same product for less.

Check the SKUs. They have been known to be different, special Walmart versions that look the same but are not.

I noted my suspicion about that earlier on in the thread, but the SKU is retailer-specific...that wouldn't be the clue. Comparison of manufacturer model number ought to work in some cases.

 

[sarxweh]

I can vary on such things. Sometimes I am going out, such as to dinner, for the ambience. Sometimes quality follows price.

But I'm never buying mouthwash for the ambience.

But sometimes we go to Walmart to get a sense of ourselves. Just look at all these "brainless, country bumkin, low-class losers...and dirty capitalists behind the one-sided glass. I am soooo much better."

In Christianity we call this comparative righteousness. In psychology, its "the other, with a capital O", where we find our identity and know what's cool about ourselves by the deficiencies we see in others.

Perhaps, that's why this thread was even started...

 

[bhsmte]

But sometimes we go to Walmart to get a sense of ourselves. Just look at all these "brainless, country bumkin, low-class losers...and dirty capitalists behind the one-sided glass. I am soooo much better."

In Christianity we call this comparative righteousness. In psychology, its "the other, with a capital O", where we find our identity and know what's cool about ourselves by the deficiencies we see in others.

Perhaps, that's why this thread was even started...

Are you speaking for yourself here, or do you know people that have communicated this to you?