Voting by Mail?

[Subduction Zone]

Bring the strict laws. I’m adjusting going through the very easy steps of requesting a ballot and then supplying a photo copy of your registration that you already have possession of.

This is not a difficult thing. This is not a strict rule. This is easier than signing on and making multiple complaints on a forum

A valid reason is needed for changes that make it more difficult to vote. No one has provided any.

And easy for you does not mean that it is easy for everyone else. I posted a link and quoted from it where it claimed that long voter times occur more often in poor and black precincts than in others. The result is suppression of the vote by the poor and minorities. If Georgia Democrats can show this to be a reality in the next election the laws will likely get overturned.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Openly admitting to being part of a group of people who produce false paperwork false identification. You’ve lost all moral ground in making any comments on anything with the vote because sir you are creating false paperwork

But they did not do that. You may have misinterpreted his post. Their plan was contingent on an illegal act by the Republicans. There was no such illegal act at that time so there was no action taken on it.

 

[Always in His Presence]

A valid reason is needed for changes that make it more difficult to vote. No one has provided any.

How is having to make a phone call or fill out an online request making it more difficult for them to vote that you have not presented

 

[Subduction Zone]

How is having to make a phone call or fill out an online request making it more difficult for them to vote that you have not presented

If a state is not a mail in state one should have to apply for a mail in ballot the first time, but once one does that there is no need to have them reapply every time.

You do not seem to realize that the burden of proof is upon those that want to limit the actions of others.

I can't tell you that you cannot sing hymns outside merely because I am an atheist. I would need to demonstrate that such an activity is harmful in some way. In the same way excessive burdens on a voter need to be justified. You appear to know that there is no valid reason to oppose this. Let's see some evidence please.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

If a state is not a mail in state one should have to apply for a mail in ballot the first time, but once one does that there is no need to have them reapply every time.

You do not seem to realize that the burden of proof is upon those that want to limit the actions of others.

I can't tell you that you cannot sing hymns outside merely because I am an atheist. I would need to demonstrate that such an activity is harmful in some way. In the same way excessive burdens on a voter need to be justified. You appear to know that there is no valid reason to oppose this. Let's see some evidence please.

All the evidence are “in the head”.. you just have to have “ faith” that they exist.

 

[Albion]

In the same way excessive burdens on a voter need to be justified.

There are no excessive burdens on a voter. They are already minimal and yet the Democrats, by and large, want to mail ballot applications to every known address and to allow anyone to vote by mail or in-person without identifying himself.

There is virtually NO activity of any importance in society which has so few requirements.

Getting a fishing license has more, and no one seems to be saying they're oppressed and just cannot find any way to engage in fishing. But when it comes to choosing the people who make the laws for the country...then it's supposed to be oppressive to do so much as find out if they are who they say they are, if they are Americans, or if they reside in the counties or cities whose elected officials they intend to choose.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are no excessive burdens on a voter. They are already minimal and yet the Democrats, by and large, want to mail ballot applications to every known address and to allow anyone to vote by mail or in-person without identifying himself.

There is virtually NO activity of any importance in society which has so few requirements.

Getting a fishing license has more, and no one seems to be saying they're oppressed and just cannot find any way to engage in fishing. But when it comes to choosing the people who make the laws for the country...then it's supposed to be oppressive to do so much as find out if they are who they say they are, if they are Americans, or if they reside in the counties or cities whose elected officials they intend to choose.

This has been thoroughly refuted. I posted and article earlier about how some polling districts, and for some odd reason mostly in areas with black and poor voters, had lines that took up to six hours to go through. If one is living paycheck to paycheck taking a full day off from work can be an excessive burden.

You cannot justify the excessive burdens that you are trying to place upon others. Why do you think that it is okay to prevent those that disagree with you from voting?

And fishing licenses? Are you kidding? You do not seem to understand the difference between a privilege and a right.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

There are no excessive burdens on a voter. They are already minimal and yet the Democrats, by and large, want to mail ballot applications to every known address and to allow anyone to vote by mail or in-person without identifying himself.

There is virtually NO activity of any importance in society which has so few requirements.

Getting a fishing license has more, and no one seems to be saying they're oppressed and just cannot find any way to engage in fishing. But when it comes to choosing the people who make the laws for the country...then it's supposed to be oppressive to do so much as find out if they are who they say they are, if they are Americans, or if they reside in the counties or cities whose elected officials they intend to choose.

Getting a fishing license is NOT “Constitutional right” but voting is. So what require for fishing license is absolutely unimportant what is require for Voting.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Bring the strict laws. I’m adjusting going through the very easy steps of requesting a ballot and then supplying a photo copy of your registration that you already have possession of.

This is not a difficult thing. This is not a strict rule. This is easier than signing on and making multiple complaints on a forum

I realize you care only what you think but there are millions of others who aren't adjusting. As a Christian, I care about them all, not just myself and a couple others. Can you relate to that? It doesn't seem you can.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Openly admitting to being part of a group of people who produce false paperwork false identification. You’ve lost all moral ground in making any comments on anything with the vote because sir you are creating false paperwork

LOL!!! Where do you see that I'm creating false paperwork? I can't wait to show this post at our next club meeting!

 

[Albion]

Getting a fishing license is NOT “Constitutional right” but voting is.
So what require for fishing license is absolutely unimportant what is require for Voting.

Soooooo, your argument is this--

The more important the activity is, the less important it is to make sure it's conducted as intended.

That seems like a strange argument.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Soooooo, your argument is this--

The more important the activity is, the less important it is to make sure it's conducted as intended.

That seems like a strange argument.

But it is not anyone's argument.

You just committed a black and white fallacy.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Soooooo, your argument is this--

The more important the activity is, the less important it is to make sure it's conducted as intended.

That seems like a strange argument.

Here is my argument. If you can show “evidence which are admissible in court” that there is widespread voter fraud and justify why we need more laws to protect voter fraud then I am all in with voter ID, voter registration etc. But as I wrote in another thread, there is not even .05% voter fraud in America each election year. So GOP is trying to fix something which doesn’t exist.

Unfortunately , I don’t expect you to provide any evidence. Because i have debated this topic with you in other thread and so far you never provided any evidence.

 

[Albion]

Unfortunately , I don’t expect you to provide any evidence. Because i have debated this topic with you in other thread and so far you never provided any evidence.

You know, your unwillingness to even consider the many explanations about what is and has happened is one thing, but demanding evidence when dozens and dozens of such material has been posted by me in response to such taunts by various members is a bit too much.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Bring the strict laws. I’m adjusting going through the very easy steps of requesting a ballot and then supplying a photo copy of your registration that you already have possession of.

This is not a difficult thing. This is not a strict rule. This is easier than signing on and making multiple complaints on a forum

Forcing people to have a photo copier is a form of a poll tax and is unconstitutional.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You know, your unwillingness to even consider the many explanations about what is and has happened is one thing, but demanding evidence when dozens and dozens of such material has been posted by me in response to such taunts by various members is a bit too much.

You posted garbage. And when you were challenged on it you ran away.

Linking to a conspiracy theory site is not a win for you.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Forcing people to have a photo copier is a form of a poll tax and is unconstitutional.

Lol. Not even Joe Biden or Fauci would say anything as audaciously ridiculous as that.

Nancy Pelosi maybe. Chuck Schumer definitely.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Lol. Not even Joe Biden or Fauci would say anything as audaciously ridiculous as that.

Nancy Pelosi maybe. Chuck Schumer definitely.

Putting up barriers to legal voters is no laughing matter. Not everyone is flush with cash like you and can afford a photo copier. Forcing people to buy that machine in order to vote would amount to a poll tax. It’s the same reason why requiring an ID to vote needs to be a free ID or it is a poll tax. I suppose you could give everyone a free photo copier to get around that. Do you have a plan for that?

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

Would it not save an enormous amount of time and effort if the mail in ballots included a copy of their voter registration?

Only if you stole a someone elses ballot, I already know all the information on my registration. You didn't think about this very long did you?

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

To ensure signatures match. Take Georgia - 1,320,000 ballots. How long do your think it takes to confirm that many signatures when you have to get the records and do the matching - so much more efficient if a copy of the voter registration is right there with the ballot.

Yeah, it will assure signatures match when you send out the signature with the ballot. It would be easier if they sent pin numbers with credit cards too. Are you really this clueless?