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This is going to be the last time I get pulled into a discussion about the "law" as viewed by Judaizers.
What's a Judaizer?
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This is going to be the last time I get pulled into a discussion about the "law" as viewed by Judaizers.
Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
And this is relevant because..?
Are you mining the thread for arguments?
Elaborating on the feasts is a thread by itself. I am seeing a weak position lacking on all the clue the Lord has given.So are you agreeing with my point or disagreeing and why, that is all I wanted to know
Most of us who moved to this position did so because we did our research prayerfully and with God's help come to see more to His Word than what has been given as milk to the masses. This is the meat and we are not Judiazers. Judiazers are without Christ and have the law and traditions to fall back on. We have Yeshua our Messiah and He is the one who has guided us deeper into His Word, His Kingdom, His Way, His Truth, and His Life. Follow His example and you will see that He created it, instituted it, explained it, lived it and expects the same from His followers.This is going to be the last time I get pulled into a discussion about the "law" as viewed by Judaizers. It is fruitless and more importantly it is a major stumbling block in the Body of Christ. I wish all who defend this position the very best and those who are confused to please do your research.
Be blessed all of you!
If you "turn from" something, but return to it, wasn't the repentance a lie?We do not get to pick and choose which rules to follow, God has commanded us to follow all of them. Above all the rules is to love God with all your being, and after that, love others as you love yourself.
Jesus sacrificed himself so that even when we sin, we can be included in the Kingdom of Heaven. All you have to do is believe and repent.
Is circumcision necessary for salvation?Most of us who moved to this position did so because we did our research prayerfully and with God's help come to see more to His Word than what has been given as milk to the masses. This is the meat and we are not Judiazers. Judiazers are without Christ and have the law and traditions to fall back on. We have Yeshua our Messiah and He is the one who has guided us deeper into His Word, His Kingdom, His Way, His Truth, and His Life. Follow His example and you will see that He created it, instituted it, explained it, lived it and expects the same from His followers.
Is circumcision necessary for salvation?
Why can't you just say "YES"?(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness
(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.
(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.
(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."
(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.
Why can't you just say "YES"?
How many of Paul's verses demonstrated that not to be true?
The "circumcision" done to Christians is done without hands, and is of the heart, not the foreskin only. (Col 2:11-13)
No, I am on topic.
That was because Paul wanted to take Timothy into the synagogues, where the locals would know Timothy wasn't "clean" enough for them without circumcision.(CLV) Ac 16:3
This one Paul wants to come out with him, and, taking him, circumcised him because of the Jews who are in those places, for they all were aware that his father belonged to the Greeks.
That was because Paul wanted to take Timothy into the synagogues, where the locals would know Timothy wasn't "clean" enough for them without circumcision.
Not at all.So you're calling Paul a hypocrite?
Me neither.You're also telling me that he committed the same behavior the the Council of Jerusalem was called for? I won't go along with either assertion.
Matthew 7:1 & 2. Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.How is it reconciled?
(CLV) Hb 10:26
For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,
(CLV) Hb 10:27
but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile.
(CLV) Hb 10:28
Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
(CLV) Hb 10:29
Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?
Thankfully, the men reborn of God's seed have the essence of the Law written in their hearts.I understand that keeping the OT laws is impossible, therefore trying to keep them in order to be saved is dead. Jesus sacrificed Himself so that even when we break the laws, we can still be saved.