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Then why did you respond? Not to be rude or anything but if you read the OP you will realize that I am looking for vitamins with long storage dates.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/14/style/consumer-saturday-storing-vitamins-from-a-to-k.html
"So vitamins are on sale this week. Is it worth it to buy a three year supply? Or will the vitamins go bad? How will you know if they do go bad? Is there any danger in consuming vitamins after they've lost their potency? What's the best way to store them?
If the label doesn't have special instructions, the general rules for storing vitamins are to keep them cool and dry, away from light, in airtight containers and out of the reach of children.
Stored properly, vitamins are usually stable for four or five years, according to Glen M. Shue, a chemist/ nutritionist for the Food and Drug Administration, but he added: ''We had a bottle of vitamin D on the shelf in the lab for 10 years. We're air-conditioned so the temperature stays cool here and when we tested it, it was still good. So it's hard to tell.
''It also depends on the kind of packaging the vitamin comes in,'' Mr. Shue said. ''Pressed tablets, like most aspirin tablets, tend to be more porous and therefore more subject to oxidation. Sugar-coated or capsulated products are pretty well sealed and tend to last longer than pressed tablets under the same conditions.''
Contrary to popular belief, the refrigerator is not an ideal place for vitamins that are taken regularly. ''Say for instance you had a large bottle of pressed tablets, and you kept them in the refrigerator, if you kept opening and closing the lid all the time, then you would get condensation in the bottle and the vitamins wouldn't last nearly as long,'' Mr. Shue said. Where to Store Them
Mr. Shue does, however, recomend the refrigerator for long-term storage. ''If a person is using a mail order discount service and buying 1,000 vitamins at a time, what they should do is take out a three-months' supply, close the lid tightly and put it in the refrigerator. Then when they want more, they should let the storage container warm up to room temperature before taking out more tablets.''
The heat and humidity in the bathroom make it a poor place for storing vitamins and kitchens are not good places either, said Dr. Richard P. Penna, a spokesman for the American Pharmaceutical Association. ''There is usually a lot of moisture and vaporized fats in the kitchen that tend to collect on the tablets or capsules. What most people choose is a linen closet.''
If there is no expiration date on a product, Dr. Penna recommends putting the date of purchase on the bottle. ''At least that gives you a reference point,'' he said.
Dr. Steven Strauss, author of a pharmacy handbook for consumers, ''Your Prescription and You,'' advises that vitamins should be kept in their original containers. ''If an individual gets a vitamin in an amber-colored glass bottle with a screw top and transfers the pills or capsules into a clear plastic container with a snap-on lid the product could be affected and deteriorate faster,'' he said.
Eating old vitamins is not dangerous. Over time vitamins simply lose potency. But without chemical analysis it is difficult to tell if a vitamin has lost strength. ''Generally speaking if there's any change in the color, in the physical appearance, the taste or the smell of the product, it is possible that the product isn't good any more,'' said Dr. Strauss. ''But it's also still possible that the chemical composition of the product has not been changed.'' Expiration Dates
The F.D.A. does not require that vitamins be labeled with expiration dates and storage instructions. But many manufacturers do it anyway. Actually it's to their advantage; if the vitamin has an expiration date, the manufacturer is responsible for the product's integrity only up to that date. Without one, the manufacturer is responsible for as long as the product is for sale.
Miles Laboratories, which makes Chocks, Flintstones and One-A-Day, puts expiration dates on all its products. The label also advises that the vitamins should be kept at room temperature and away from children. The expiration date is three years from the day the tablets were manufactured. But Doloris C. Cogan, a spokesman for the company, said that the product if kept dry and tighly capped was probably good for another year.
Expiration dates and directions to keep the product at room temperature are also on the labels of all Upjohn vitamins. Upjohn makes Unicap and nine other vitamin products. Expiration dates vary from two to four years from the date of manufacture. ''Our best advice to consumers is to follow directions and live with the expiration dates,'' said Susan Ford O'Brien, a spokesman.
The are two basic kinds of vitamins, water-soluble ones (C, Bcomplex), which must be replenished frequently, and fat-soluble ones (A,D,E,K), which are stored in the body. Excessive amounts of A, D, and K can be harmful and vitamins, like all drugs, should be kept away from children. "
So 3 to five years is, IMO, plenty of time. We are aiming for self sufficiency in 3 years...
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/14/style/consumer-saturday-storing-vitamins-from-a-to-k.html
"So vitamins are on sale this week. Is it worth it to buy a three year supply? Or will the vitamins go bad? How will you know if they do go bad? Is there any danger in consuming vitamins after they've lost their potency? What's the best way to store them?
If the label doesn't have special instructions, the general rules for storing vitamins are to keep them cool and dry, away from light, in airtight containers and out of the reach of children.
Stored properly, vitamins are usually stable for four or five years, according to Glen M. Shue, a chemist/ nutritionist for the Food and Drug Administration, but he added: ''We had a bottle of vitamin D on the shelf in the lab for 10 years. We're air-conditioned so the temperature stays cool here and when we tested it, it was still good. So it's hard to tell.
''It also depends on the kind of packaging the vitamin comes in,'' Mr. Shue said. ''Pressed tablets, like most aspirin tablets, tend to be more porous and therefore more subject to oxidation. Sugar-coated or capsulated products are pretty well sealed and tend to last longer than pressed tablets under the same conditions.''
Contrary to popular belief, the refrigerator is not an ideal place for vitamins that are taken regularly. ''Say for instance you had a large bottle of pressed tablets, and you kept them in the refrigerator, if you kept opening and closing the lid all the time, then you would get condensation in the bottle and the vitamins wouldn't last nearly as long,'' Mr. Shue said. Where to Store Them
Mr. Shue does, however, recomend the refrigerator for long-term storage. ''If a person is using a mail order discount service and buying 1,000 vitamins at a time, what they should do is take out a three-months' supply, close the lid tightly and put it in the refrigerator. Then when they want more, they should let the storage container warm up to room temperature before taking out more tablets.''
The heat and humidity in the bathroom make it a poor place for storing vitamins and kitchens are not good places either, said Dr. Richard P. Penna, a spokesman for the American Pharmaceutical Association. ''There is usually a lot of moisture and vaporized fats in the kitchen that tend to collect on the tablets or capsules. What most people choose is a linen closet.''
If there is no expiration date on a product, Dr. Penna recommends putting the date of purchase on the bottle. ''At least that gives you a reference point,'' he said.
Dr. Steven Strauss, author of a pharmacy handbook for consumers, ''Your Prescription and You,'' advises that vitamins should be kept in their original containers. ''If an individual gets a vitamin in an amber-colored glass bottle with a screw top and transfers the pills or capsules into a clear plastic container with a snap-on lid the product could be affected and deteriorate faster,'' he said.
Eating old vitamins is not dangerous. Over time vitamins simply lose potency. But without chemical analysis it is difficult to tell if a vitamin has lost strength. ''Generally speaking if there's any change in the color, in the physical appearance, the taste or the smell of the product, it is possible that the product isn't good any more,'' said Dr. Strauss. ''But it's also still possible that the chemical composition of the product has not been changed.'' Expiration Dates
The F.D.A. does not require that vitamins be labeled with expiration dates and storage instructions. But many manufacturers do it anyway. Actually it's to their advantage; if the vitamin has an expiration date, the manufacturer is responsible for the product's integrity only up to that date. Without one, the manufacturer is responsible for as long as the product is for sale.
Miles Laboratories, which makes Chocks, Flintstones and One-A-Day, puts expiration dates on all its products. The label also advises that the vitamins should be kept at room temperature and away from children. The expiration date is three years from the day the tablets were manufactured. But Doloris C. Cogan, a spokesman for the company, said that the product if kept dry and tighly capped was probably good for another year.
Expiration dates and directions to keep the product at room temperature are also on the labels of all Upjohn vitamins. Upjohn makes Unicap and nine other vitamin products. Expiration dates vary from two to four years from the date of manufacture. ''Our best advice to consumers is to follow directions and live with the expiration dates,'' said Susan Ford O'Brien, a spokesman.
The are two basic kinds of vitamins, water-soluble ones (C, Bcomplex), which must be replenished frequently, and fat-soluble ones (A,D,E,K), which are stored in the body. Excessive amounts of A, D, and K can be harmful and vitamins, like all drugs, should be kept away from children. "
So 3 to five years is, IMO, plenty of time. We are aiming for self sufficiency in 3 years...
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There is always the option of growing your vitamins. I speak of course of sprouting and supposed "superfoods" that contain a large amount of naturally grown vitamins. We bought a small 5 tray sprouter and have grown spouts several times. Also seedlings that have come out of the ground and are only a few inches tall. All of these are rich in vitamins and minerals that cannot be synthesized or stored for long periods of time. The seeds you need last virtually forever and they go from seed to sprout in just a couple days. The seedlings are ready to eat in a week.
We were going on a trip a couple weeks ago and we brought some food with us... including a large container of pinto beans. The wife dropped the container on the porch and lost a couple handfuls of seeds on the steps. She picked up and threw away most of the escaping pintos, and swept the rest into the dirt next to the drive. We were gone about 3 days and by the time we got home, we had 3 and 4 inch sprouts. They continued to grow and only pootered out because there was no sun. But they did grow to about 9 inches tall before they fell over exhausted of all energy.
I have forgotten most all of the nutritional info about the sprouts... but we have a few pounds ready to go.
We were going on a trip a couple weeks ago and we brought some food with us... including a large container of pinto beans. The wife dropped the container on the porch and lost a couple handfuls of seeds on the steps. She picked up and threw away most of the escaping pintos, and swept the rest into the dirt next to the drive. We were gone about 3 days and by the time we got home, we had 3 and 4 inch sprouts. They continued to grow and only pootered out because there was no sun. But they did grow to about 9 inches tall before they fell over exhausted of all energy.
I have forgotten most all of the nutritional info about the sprouts... but we have a few pounds ready to go.
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I wanted to bring this thread back up for discussion and share something I ran across when I had a similar question. First, an article explaining things better than I can,...
http://www.surthrival.com/news/pine-pollen-benefits/
Now, the part I wanted to point out was this, tinctures. Tinctures contain a highly concentrated form of the vitamins and minerals in the pine pollen, as well as a much higher concentration of all the other goodies that our bodies crave. Tinctures last almost indefinitely, and have been normally used for a way to store herbs over a longer period of time. Pine pollen is a superfood, so to address this to us prepper types, it is a perfect way to store vitamins without them ever going bad.
Here is a site that sells the cheapest tincture form of pine pollen I could find on the net,..
https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/product/pine-pollen-tincture/
Here is another site that sells a bigger size of it,..
http://www.rawforestfoods.com/pine-pollen-tincture-4-ounces/
Of course at a much higher price.
These don't taste like candy when you take them, they have an alcoholic aftertaste since alcohol is what's used to break the pine pollen down into the greater concentration.
There are many places to buy pine pollen in it's basic form all over the web also, if you wanted to take it that way, or even try your hand at making your own tincture. Amazon sells the correct storage bottles at a reasonable price.
Raw Forest Foods has quite a few videos on youtube explaining many of these things also. Of course, they are not Christian so they tend to get into their own spiritual ideas over things, but they do have good products and can have some good information if one takes things in carefully.
Just figured I would share this with you folks. I'm a big nutrition nut and this addressed my concerns about supplementing during long term disasters.
http://www.surthrival.com/news/pine-pollen-benefits/
Now, the part I wanted to point out was this, tinctures. Tinctures contain a highly concentrated form of the vitamins and minerals in the pine pollen, as well as a much higher concentration of all the other goodies that our bodies crave. Tinctures last almost indefinitely, and have been normally used for a way to store herbs over a longer period of time. Pine pollen is a superfood, so to address this to us prepper types, it is a perfect way to store vitamins without them ever going bad.
Here is a site that sells the cheapest tincture form of pine pollen I could find on the net,..
https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/product/pine-pollen-tincture/
Here is another site that sells a bigger size of it,..
http://www.rawforestfoods.com/pine-pollen-tincture-4-ounces/
Of course at a much higher price.
These don't taste like candy when you take them, they have an alcoholic aftertaste since alcohol is what's used to break the pine pollen down into the greater concentration.
There are many places to buy pine pollen in it's basic form all over the web also, if you wanted to take it that way, or even try your hand at making your own tincture. Amazon sells the correct storage bottles at a reasonable price.
Raw Forest Foods has quite a few videos on youtube explaining many of these things also. Of course, they are not Christian so they tend to get into their own spiritual ideas over things, but they do have good products and can have some good information if one takes things in carefully.
Just figured I would share this with you folks. I'm a big nutrition nut and this addressed my concerns about supplementing during long term disasters.
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Hey thanks ARBITER01 this is definately one thats good to know, I hadnt even ran across it that I might consider it thanks so much
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I probably have a few pounds of mixed sprouts, alfalfa, clover, broc seeds, radish that sorta thing stashed away too. I don't think much abt prepping but I'd say the sprouts are the smartest way to prepare for emergency foods because of having enzymes to self digest plus containing huge amts of vits and minerals. I sure wouldn't go with caps of vits on their own because they don't have the supporting vits needed for absorption.
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