Vision, tagline, SoF, and revised promotion rule (last post has link to Wiki)

[CaDan]

Not just visitors. Non-Christians and "unorthodox" believers are mainstays of this site, and they should be welcomed and accepted.

"Constantly" ridicule? That's quite a bit of an exaggeration. It's true that E&M threads often devolve into "prove your God exists" arguments, but I have found that the majority of non-Christians on this site don't fall in this "bomb-thrower" category.
Ringo

I moderated Theologyland long enough to see that Little Boy and Fat Man were dropped predominantly from B-29s with a Cross and Crown painted on the nose.

 

[Ringo84]

I moderated Theologyland long enough to see that Little Boy and Fat Man were dropped predominantly from B-29s with a Cross and Crown painted on the nose.

That's true.
Ringo

 

[tulc]

Does this mean people can continue calling people who disagree with them on non salvation issues non-Christians?
tulc(always more amused then hurt when this comes up but some people really do take offense)

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Hmm interesting since I don't insult people and I am a pagan.

Needless to say the new rule is a bit worry some as others have stated before me.

 

[Criada]

Christ's love applies to all - and He certainly doesn't consider anyone inferior. Not even from a 'theological viewpoint'.
Perhaps if we concentrate on serving one another rather than belittling one another, we may have a chance of building a community which demonstrates Christian values, rather than arguing about them!

 

[Angel4Truth]

If the site really is going to be more geared toward christians (as it should be and actually what grew it before) then how do non believers as mods and administrators fit into this - thats enough to turn many christians away from this site.

I hope with this new change this issue will be adressed to as well as the several on staff removing christian posts they dont like without notification and leaving threads which clearly violate the guidelines here because they support lack of christian belief.

 

[Tmac1818]

If the site really is going to be more geared toward christians (as it should be and actually what grew it before) then how do non believers as mods and administrators fit into this - thats enough to turn many christians away from this site.

I hope with this new change this issue will be adressed to as well as the several on staff removing christian posts they dont like without notification and leaving threads which clearly violate the guidelines here because they support lack of christian belief.

I dont think that happens. Any of the mods who are not Christians are being watched closely I'm sure, so they are most likely very good mods to even be allowed on in the first place. I'm sure they're just as good as the Christian mods are. They spend hours a day on here just like the other mods and have to go through the same thing. I dont think they'd spend so much time on a forum pretending to be a good mod just so they could leave up some posts that should come down...

Because if they weren't mods, those posts would STILL not come down Unless somebody sees them, which is the same situation with if they ARE mods.

 

[Tmac1818]

It's funny to notice the difference in tone people use to non-Christian mods vs. Christian mods. Like the argument earlier in the thread, you should read that, where people said that Jesus loves ALL people. He does not think that Christians are better than non-Christians, he waits for non-Christians to come back to Him.

 

[GeratTzedek]

The problem of the definition of "to promote" has hung around for at least three years without a rule-based resolution. At this point, I don't think there is a way we can write a rule to adequately express what we are doing. I know I have certainly tried and failed.

I think we will end up having to take a casustic approach to the problem and go case-by-case. I know that is not the optimal solution, but it is probably the only one.

For those of us who have experienced being wrongly accused, that is not sufficient.

 

[Tonks]

I dont think that happens. Any of the mods who are not Christians are being watched closely I'm sure, so they are most likely very good mods to even be allowed on in the first place.

They're not watched any closer than any other mod is watched. Some of our best mods are the non-Christian flavor.

 

[Teshi]

Saying sin is sacred is considered a mock to those of us who feel its the downfall of so many souls.

O felix culpa quae talem et tantum meruit habere redemptorem.

Not the same thing as sacred exactly, but it does muddy the waters!

 

[Crazy Liz]

O felix culpa quae talem et tantum meruit habere redemptorem.

Not the same thing as sacred exactly, but it does muddy the waters!

I had to look that up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa

 

[CaDan]

...wouldn't a more accurate description be "There's no user name so simple that someone wont FIND an insult where none was intended!"?
tulc(just wondering)

tulc's Law.

Let it be inscribed with Poe's Law.

 

[Teshi]

I had to look that up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa

To be honest, I only know it because I had to sing it in choir back in the day

 

[tulc]

O felix culpa quae talem et tantum meruit habere redemptorem.

omnia dicta fortiora si dicta Latina!
tulc(finds this to be true)

 

[CaDan]

For those of us who have experienced being wrongly accused, that is not sufficient.

You are correct--it is not sufficient. But some pretty smart people have been pounding on this issue for a few years and nobody has been able to come up with an all-encompassing solution. Maybe there is one out there, but I have come to doubt it. Hence my suggestion of the use of casuistry to get at least something workable.

 

[CaDan]

The exclusive and the inclusive are both legitimate strains of christian tradition. Emphasis on both.

 

[Crazy Liz]

Some people don't know how to state their opinion without dictating, so they read dictating into every statement of opinion.

There are other issues also, I'm sure. Like just wishing not to see certain opinions. But as CaDan posted above, there are plenty of forums that encourage back-slapping people who agree with you and censoring those who don't. I came here because of the breadth of discussion. Isn't a discussion forum about discussion?

 

[Angel4Truth]

and when you all came here years ago - there were areas for JUST CHRISTIANS - i rest my case

 

[Ringo84]

and when you all came here years ago - there were areas for JUST CHRISTIANS - i rest my case

Which proves what?

There isn't much of a case to rest, if you ask me.
Ringo