• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Tamara224

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
13,285
2,396
Wyoming
✟48,234.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Married
Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

1. My response to this is what I said before: People see the world the way they are. It's a self-justification technique to assume that everyone around you is motivated by the same desires as you. This makes a person feel justified in his/her actions. But it rarely has anything to do with reality.

2. Many people view the world in a way that you have never imagined. We all see the world through different colored lenses, we make judgment calls based on that and our ideology shapes our opinions. Keep in mind that not everyone in the world shares the same viewpoint as yourself.

3. If your opinion were truly shaped by the people you see, you would allow the testimony of the people in this forum to help shape it, rather than assuming that what they say is untrue. In truth, it would seem that your opinion of others, the credence you give to their statements, is in fact shaped by your pre-judgment which is most likely based on yourself, rather than others that you see.


I know you've received some criticism from this opinion [and rightfully so] but what has been left unsaid is that this is true in some - or most - cases. I know virgin that if they were surrounded by the wrong type of people they would fall into temptation because sadly I've seen it happen before [I'm still a virgin myself and I wonder how strong I am if King David couldn't resist sexual temptation]. But like others were saying, there are instances where a couple resists the urges. My best friend/mentor and his new wife struggled but waited until their wedding night and they are very much in love. [I know you quoted "right" so I know that you weren't necessarily meaning soulmate. I just thought I would sum it up with a nice ending. :) ]


I agree, it is true for many people. Sexual temptation is one of the hardest to resist. Which is why, we should take the example of Joseph and run from it.

That's why Paul said:

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. (1 Cor 6:18).​
He didn't say stand and resist it. He said flee from it.

IMO, it is likely that the people who would give in at the first opportunity are those who have allowed the temptation to take hold in their hearts already and are probably merely trying to follow rules.

If you want to be strong in this area, you must 1) have good reasons other than "because God said so" why you choose to abstain, 2) "take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ" and 3) pray to God for his help and protection: He will not allow you to be tempted past what you can endure. But if your heart has already given in, you will fall at the slightest temptation. Yearning after it in your heart, envying those who have it...those mean you have already succumbed to temptation.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging anyone who has had stray thoughts, or who reacts to natural desires. But, if you constantly allow your heart and mind to dwell on it, you've already given in. [I mean 'you' generally and am not talking to any one specific person.]


Like the song says: The mind is a battlefield. Put on the armor of God, then, and fight the good fight.
 
Upvote 0

Tamara224

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
13,285
2,396
Wyoming
✟48,234.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Married
lol people should stop responding to longlegs ... you are only encouraging her to keep posting her skewed views.

K
O
F


While they may be skewed, I doubt she thinks they are. Besides, Longlegs represents the attitude of the majority of people around us.

I think the opinions she expresses should be addressed rather than ignored. Not for her sake so much as for ours.

What I want to do is encourage my brothers and sisters. Facing and countering the world's opinions is important. We sometimes don't realize the effect those opinions have on us.
 
Upvote 0

Teufelhund

Senior Veteran
Jul 29, 2007
2,778
103
37
Camp Pendleton, Ca
✟26,075.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:
There is nobody on Earth who does not have the opportunity, there will be somebody as desperate as them. Be it for love, attention, money, whatever. But everybody has the opportunity.
 
  • Like
Reactions: futuredoc
Upvote 0

futuredoc

somewhere between raising hell and amazing grace
Mar 8, 2006
1,657
99
✟32,301.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

This made me laugh out loud...Allowed to lose virginity....there's not a woman on the planet who couldn't lose her virginity if she wanted to. I could go out tonight and have sex, I've been pressured in the past and been faced with ultimatums....Not Allowed LOL!! Can't comment on men.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Teufelhund
Upvote 0

kingoffools13

Well-Known Member
Jun 14, 2007
3,122
244
PA
✟27,291.00
Country
United States
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
That's not very nice. She has every right to post her beliefs and views.

It's a privately owned sight as far as I am aware there no "rights", but either way I didn't say she wasn't allowed, simply that people should refrain from encouraging her.

While they may be skewed, I doubt she thinks they are. Besides, Longlegs represents the attitude of the majority of people around us.

I think the opinions she expresses should be addressed rather than ignored. Not for her sake so much as for ours.

What I want to do is encourage my brothers and sisters. Facing and countering the world's opinions is important. We sometimes don't realize the effect those opinions have on us.

her opinions(worldly) have been well addressed long before she posted them, all of us are aware of the worldly view and there has been a lot of discussion based on this so far.

K
O
F
 
Upvote 0

Tamara224

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
13,285
2,396
Wyoming
✟48,234.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Married
her opinions(worldly) have been well addressed long before she posted them, all of us are aware of the worldly view and there has been a lot of discussion based on this so far.

You're making the same mistake she did. You couldn't possibly know what "all of us" are aware of nor how much people are influenced by stuff like this.
 
Upvote 0

kingoffools13

Well-Known Member
Jun 14, 2007
3,122
244
PA
✟27,291.00
Country
United States
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Re-read what I wrote, anyone reading the thread will be aware of it, so i am in fact aware what people should know. If they are skipping posts, then they are misinformed by their own fault, but that doesn't mean we need someone to post misguided opinions every few pages just so we can discuss it again, and again etc.

K
O
F
 
Upvote 0
L

LongLegs

Guest
Listen ..... I am just an observer of life and all kinds of people.

I see plenty of these "goody - goody" people who judge people having sex and saying how bad that is, and the truth is they are having sexual thoughts that are just as wrong .....and given the chance, they will be jumping right in the sack with someone.

Trust me, there ain't many virgins out there ... get real!!

Kathy :kiss:
 
Upvote 0

RonnyRulz

Well-Known Member
Oct 19, 2006
2,524
116
✟3,325.00
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Private
Listen ..... I am just an observer of life and all kinds of people.

I see plenty of these "goody - goody" people who judge people having sex and saying how bad that is, and the truth is they are having sexual thoughts that are just as wrong .....and given the chance, they will be jumping right in the sack with someone.

Trust me, there ain't many virgins out there ... get real!!

Kathy :kiss:
Your life experiences won't reflect statistics, and although statistics won't be completely accurate, they will be more accurate than random people making assumptions.

Just because you don't know the virgins doesn't mean they don't exist. Not to mention people have a high tendency to lie to their friends and others that they aren't virgins just to "fit in" or "be cool". That doesn't mean virgins are common, but that doesn't mean they are uncommon either. Even if only 1% of the world's population were virgins after the age of 25 age, that still leaves 700 million virgins in the world, which is A LOT. I don't know what the % at what age is, but there are millions of virgins in this world, and nearly everyone has the chance to have sex at one point or another. It's just that not everyone chooses to.

I consider myself attractive as well as do many girls, and for a young college aged man to have sex isn't very difficult, even if I wasn't attractive. I have plenty of opportunities at my age, but I CHOOSE not to. And I will continue to CHOOSE not to until I'm married. I've also met some very attractive women who are still virgins at my age, and who are going to stay virgins until they're married. Not everyone wants to stay a virgin until they're married and has self-control to do it, but some people actually do. I know I do and I know I will.

And just because everyone has sexual thoughts doesn't mean they would all jump in the sack with someone when given the choice. One's thoughts do not depict one's actions. If they did, we'd have A LOT more murderers, because a lot of people think about harming other's, but that doesn't mean they do.

I have no doubt you know a lot about what you are talking about and that there is some truth in what you are saying. But asking people to trust you isn't going to make them believe what you say is true, especially if it's not entirely true. Sorry :(
 
Upvote 0

kingoffools13

Well-Known Member
Jun 14, 2007
3,122
244
PA
✟27,291.00
Country
United States
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Listen ..... I am just an observer of life and all kinds of people.

I see plenty of these "goody - goody" people who judge people having sex and saying how bad that is, and the truth is they are having sexual thoughts that are just as wrong .....and given the chance, they will be jumping right in the sack with someone.

Trust me, there ain't many virgins out there ... get real!!

Kathy :kiss:
I suppose I am willing to sacrifice myself to the label of "goody-goody" in lieu of the label "sleazy-smutty".

Either way sinning is a choice, not something thrust upon the innocent.

K
O
F
 
Upvote 0
L

LongLegs

Guest
Your life experiences won't reflect statistics, and although statistics won't be completely accurate, they will be more accurate than random people making assumptions.

Look at the statistics on how many people (in the USA) are virgins after 21. Even among people who attend church, its very low!

Just because you don't know the virgins doesn't mean they don't exist. Not to mention people have a high tendency to lie to their friends and others that they aren't virgins just to "fit in" or "be cool". That doesn't mean virgins are common, but that doesn't mean they are uncommon either. Even if only 1% of the world's population were virgins after the age of 25 age, that still leaves 700 million virgins in the world, which is A LOT. I don't know what the % at what age is, but there are millions of virgins in this world, and nearly everyone has the chance to have sex at one point or another. It's just that not everyone chooses to.

Huh ??? :scratch:

I consider myself attractive as well as do many girls, and for a young college aged man to have sex isn't very difficult, even if I wasn't attractive. I have plenty of opportunities at my age, but I CHOOSE not to. And I will continue to CHOOSE not to until I'm married. I've also met some very attractive women who are still virgins at my age, and who are going to stay virgins until they're married. Not everyone wants to stay a virgin until they're married and has self-control to do it, but some people actually do. I know I do and I know I will.

And just because everyone has sexual thoughts doesn't mean they would all jump in the sack with someone when given the choice. One's thoughts do not depict one's actions. If they did, we'd have A LOT more murderers, because a lot of people think about harming other's, but that doesn't mean they do.

Sorry, but you miss my point entirely. I'm saying that (per the Bible) if you are having sexually immoral thoughts about someone, you are just as bad as the person out there having casual sex. And many of these do gooder's would give up their virginity in a heartbeat if someone comes along that they find attractive.

Asking people to trust you isn't going to make them believe what you say is true. Sorry :(

Again .... I'm just an observer of life!

Kathy :kiss:
 
Upvote 0

KarrieTex

HOOK EM HORNS
Site Supporter
Nov 2, 2006
11,880
788
54
Houston, Texas
✟83,214.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Republican
Are you are virgin KerrieTex???

Kathy :kiss:
One) You obvisously did not read my earlier posts. Or perhaps you didn't retain the information.

Two) It's Karrie not Kerrie

Three) Yes, I am and proud of it.
 
Upvote 0

Tamara224

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
13,285
2,396
Wyoming
✟48,234.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Married
Listen ..... I am just an observer of life and all kinds of people.

Me too. Whose observations are more accurate, more credible or more trustworthy?


I see plenty of these "goody - goody" people who judge people having sex and saying how bad that is, and the truth is they are having sexual thoughts that are just as wrong .....and given the chance, they will be jumping right in the sack with someone.

I've seen the people you speak of as well. I do not discount that there are some like that out there.

But, apparently, what you haven't seen is people who do not judge others, but live their own lives; people who want to remain virgins for reasons other than being "holier than thou"; people who actually practice what they preach. Are they are rare breed? Perhaps. But I suggest that if you would open your eyes you'd see an abundance of them in this thread alone.


Trust me, there ain't many virgins out there ... get real!!



In fact, most of us (even those who are virgins) have already acknowledged that not many exist anymore.

What we're debating you about is the reason for virginity.

It is not, as you claim, only because we can't have sex. Just because purity doesn't mean anything to you, doesn't mean it is as worthless to the rest of us.

Your judgment of us (yes, that's right, you are being highly judgmental) is based solely on your own insecurities and not on reality.
 
Upvote 0
L

LongLegs

Guest
One) You obvisously did not read my earlier posts. Or perhaps you didn't retain the information.

Two) It's Karrie not Kerrie

Three) Yes, I am and proud of it.

One) Sorry, I didn't read all the posts :)sleep: ) ......

Two) Its "obviously" not "obvisously"

Third) I've heard about women who have a very low need for sex ......

Kathy :kiss:
 
Upvote 0

Tamara224

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
13,285
2,396
Wyoming
✟48,234.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Married
Again .... I'm just an observer of life!

Kathy :kiss:


Observer:
someone or something that observes.

Observe:
to see, watch, perceive, or notice
I don't see anything in those definitions about drawing conclusions, broadbrushing or making claims.

You are more than an observer as soon as you open your mouth to tell us your opinion. :)

Furthermore, your observations are always going to be flawed as long as you do not have eyes to see or ears to hear. :wave:
 
Upvote 0