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Don't let it bother you. People see the world the way they are. It's human nature to think that everyone else is just like us. Liars think everyone is a liar. Thieves think everyone is a thief. Sexually promiscuous people think that everyone else is sexually promiscuous (or wants to be).*

To the pure, all things are pure.



*Disclaimer, I am NOT calling anyone sexually promiscuous. It's just an example. :)

Not being a virgin doesn't mean you are sexually promiscous.. you could have been very much in love and sure that you were getting married to the person.

JM
 
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Not being a virgin doesn't mean you are sexually promiscous.. you could have been very much in love and sure that you were getting married to the person.

JM

That was me right there (in purple).

I was naive.

~Blessed Be.
 
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How important is it that your spouse is a virgin when you get married? Do you think that you could "deal" with it if that had made a mistake in the past and weren't...or would you feel like you had been "cheated" out of something with that person?

depends on how much i love the person :) lets say i got to know a wonderful girl who i just fell completely in love with! In that situation I would be a fool to give up such an awesome gift from God because of some past mistake she might have made. Also... if I truly loved her than my actions would give evedence to that. Throwing someone to the curb because of a mistake they made upteen years ago is soooooo hateful!
 
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I certainly don't place much thought in finding a virgin to marry - as it would cut out quite a large portion of the population.

There in lies a very interesting point... When we marry, that cuts out all the rest of the population anyway. That's before and after marriage...;)
 
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Well, then you are wrong.

I happen to be a virgin and I am well over 18. Virgin and proud of it.

Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:
 
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Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:
Again, your view is really off. In fact it's laughable. I would also question the moral character of the people you see.

There are some of us who have walked with Christ for a long time and made a promise to Him to maintain that purity until marriage. I did it and I am honoring my promise to God about it.

I have faced temptation. Being someone who is engaged, it is not the lack of opportunity as you so snidely put it, it is the actual desire to walk in the ways of God.

However, I don's subscribe to the shallow gym-rat mentality of those in my generation or younger. Shallowness does nothing but breed self-contempt.
 
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Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

I disagree, many people have waited til marriage for sex.

However waiting is not an easy task for anyone, so most people don't even try. Some people try and give up.
 
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Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

Are you kidding me:D? I have almost literally fought to keep my virginity. My ex-bf, who I was sure I was in love with at the time, put a ton of pressure on me to have sex. Even when we were considering marriage, I refused to give in.

My sister, who has been in two long-term relationships, and who is in one now, is still a virgin. Both her and her boyfriend are committed to staying that way until they get married.:kiss:

My brother is 22 and has never even kissed a girl. And not for lack of opportunity.

I have a friend, my age, who has had several boyfriends and is not exactly living the perfect Christian life, but even she has clung to her virginity.

I have a male friend, three years older than me, who wants to wear white at his wedding to symbolize purity the same way the bride does.

I don't mean to bash your opinion. I'm sure that it's based on what you have seen in the people you know. I just hope you understand that it's not true for the entire population. There are still a lot of people out there who care about their virginity.:)
 
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Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

Yeah, you're definitely wrong. I've had opportunities where I definitely could've been sexually involved with someone if I'd chosen to pursue it further, but I knew that wasn't what I wanted to do. I'd rather wait for the right person than the right feeling.
 
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Are you kidding me:D? I have almost literally fought to keep my virginity. My ex-bf, who I was sure I was in love with at the time, put a ton of pressure on me to have sex. Even when we were considering marriage, I refused to give in.

My sister, who has been in two long-term relationships, and who is in one now, is still a virgin. Both her and her boyfriend are committed to staying that way until they get married.:kiss:

I have a friend, my age, who has had several boyfriends and is not exactly living the perfect Christian life, but even she has clung to her virginity.

I have a male friend, three years older than me, who wants to wear white at his wedding to symbolize purity the same way the bride does.

I don't mean to bash your opinion. I'm sure that it's based on what you have seen in the people you know. I just hope you understand that it's not true for the entire population. There are still a lot of people out there who care about their virginity.:)
Friend,

I wanted to encourage you to stay the course. I am not going to lie to you it isn't easy and there are moments as you get older that you wonder why. But walk in His way and a blessing will come from the obedience. Walk in His now and a blessing will be here now.
 
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(I do not believe that laws prohibiting prostitution are an example of women being repressed. My position is that prostitution itself is an example of repression... whereas you purport that prostitution is the sign of a liberated woman.)

I'm only going to adress this one point because I think it's obvious that you are reading into a lot of what I said and in many cases, missing my point entirely. Apparently, you think you are dealing with a feminazi of the worst caliber. Let me clarify:

I DO NOT and HAVE NEVER purported that prostitution is the sign of a liberated woman.

All I have ever said is that women who worked as prostitutes were not dependent on husband or father the way most other women were. They were not beholden to men in the one area I've talked about as far as independence goes: they owned the money they earned, they chose when to work when not to.

I believe that prostitution is the ultimate subjugation and objectification of women. I DO NOT endorse, support or defend the practice of prostitution.

Please pay closer attention to what I have actually said. I am merely arguing one point and not in any way suggesting that women ever should be prostitutes.

Thank you.
 
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Friend,

I wanted to encourage you to stay the course. I am not going to lie to you it isn't easy and there are moments as you get older that you wonder why. But walk in His way and a blessing will come from the obedience. Walk in His now and a blessing will be here now.

Thanks Karrie. I have seen you quite a bit on forums and I have come to really admire and look up to you for your strength and patience. :thumbsup:
 
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Thanks Karrie. I have seen you quite a bit on forums and I have come to really admire and look up to you for your strength and patience. :thumbsup:
Now I am going to cry.

I am far from being patient. I tend to type out the most horrible responses just to delete them.

Thank you though really thank you.

Right now there are things in my life that I am trying to be very patient about and it is very hard. Waiting on God can be beyond difficult.
 
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Now I am going to cry.

I am far from being patient. I tend to type out the most horrible responses just to delete them.

Thank you though really thank you.

Right now there are things in my life that I am trying to be very patient about and it is very hard. Waiting on God can be beyond difficult.

You've clung to virginity for 36 years. That shows a ton of patience and I'm sure that applies in other areas of your life as well.

You do get a little passionate sometimes. But everyone does occasionally.:)

God will honor your patience. He knows what's best.
 
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Well, in my opinion, the ones that are still virgins are ones that nobody has "allowed" them to lose their virginity with them yet.

Present the "right" guy or girl to them, and they would lose their virginity in a second.

Just my opinion, based on the people I see.

Kathy :kiss:

I know you've received some criticism from this opinion [and rightfully so] but what has been left unsaid is that this is true in some - or most - cases. I know virgin that if they were surrounded by the wrong type of people they would fall into temptation because sadly I've seen it happen before [I'm still a virgin myself and I wonder how strong I am if King David couldn't resist sexual temptation]. But like others were saying, there are instances where a couple resists the urges. My best friend/mentor and his new wife struggled but waited until their wedding night and they are very much in love. [I know you quoted "right" so I know that you weren't necessarily meaning soulmate. I just thought I would sum it up with a nice ending. :) ]
 
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SO TRUE!!! I'm a natural redhead after all. I have friends who can't tell if I am closer to a Peter type or Paul type. :)

I will tell you that sometimes it was patience and sometimes it was good ol' fashion fear of God. Now it is a desire to be one completely with only my husband.
 
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I know you've received some criticism from this opinion [and rightfully so] but what has been left unsaid is that this is true in some - or most - cases. I know virgin that if they were surrounded by the wrong type of people they would fall into temptation because sadly I've seen it happen before [I'm still a virgin myself and I wonder how strong I am if King David couldn't resist sexual temptation]. But like others were saying, there are instances where a couple resists the urges. My best friend/mentor and his new wife struggled but waited until their wedding night and they are very much in love. [I know you quoted "right" so I know that you weren't necessarily meaning soulmate. I just thought I would sum it up with a nice ending. :) ]


Exactly, its not an easy thing to do for anyone. And a lot of people try and give up. However its not impossible, you just have to have a very strong desire to wait.
 
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Not being a virgin doesn't mean you are sexually promiscous.. you could have been very much in love and sure that you were getting married to the person.

JM


:doh: Dude, I made the disclaimer for a reason. Read it again. And how you could possibly draw the conclusion you've drawn from what I said (in the context in which I said it) is really beyond me.

It's starting to get rather annoying the way people keep reading into my posts.:sigh:
 
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Exactly, its not an easy thing to do for anyone. And a lot of people try and give up. However its not impossible, you just have to have a very strong desire to wait.
Having a very high desire to wait is not exactly true.

Having a very high desire to not break my word to God is beyond messureable.

For me each reason is founded ultimately in the desire to follow God's word in this. It is that fear of God that controls me.

Who said the beginning of wisdom is to fear God.
 
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