Virginia school board votes to restore Confederate names to two schools

[Laodicean60]

Were buildings named with that quote? Statues erected to its honor and remembrance? Those who thought that a bad idea said to be erasing history?

Just as I thought, justifying a racist statement. Hypocrites.

 

[Laodicean60]

I just thought of something. I know the real reason for the outrage is because the buildings and monuments are in red states.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Then it can also be said that it is not your right to forgive or not forgive. That right has always been with those who experienced it.

I never said that I forgave them (or didn't). All I said is that we should not be naming things after them or memorializing them with statues.

We even kept some relics from the Portuguese like the A Famosa in present day Malacca. In fact we are proud to have it around and we maintain it well.

And we keep quite a few relics around from the Civil War. For example, most of the major battlefields are historic parks with memorials to soldiers on both sides of the conflict (largely placed by veterans and their families). That's an appropriate place for such things.

The statues that people object to, the schools that were named after Confederate generals, that was mostly done in the early to mid 20th century (1920s-1960s) as a reflection of the racism existing in society at the time. There's no cultural or historical relevance to it - at least nothing worth celebrating.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Just as I thought, justifying a racist statement. Hypocrites.

No, pointing out the problems with your attempt at whataboutism.

I just thought of something. I know the real reason for the outrage is because the buildings and monuments are in red states.

Uh, no. Try again.

 

[Laodicean60]

No, pointing out the problems with your attempt at whataboutism.

The whataboutism comes from something that happened 160 years ago. Hypocrite much?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The whataboutism comes from something that happened 160 years ago. Hypocrite much?

You're not making any sense.

 

[Laodicean60]

You're not making any sense.

You have to think about it.

 

[FireDragon76]

But it happened, statues were built. Why not destroy everything from our horrid past all the way to Columbus, so today's kids can make themselves feel better about themselves?

Why keep statues just to make racists feel better?

 

[Desk trauma]

Just as I thought, justifying a racist statement. Hypocrites.

Nope. Pointing out its irrelevance to this discussion.

 

[Laodicean60]

Why keep statues just to make racists feel better?

lol

 

[RocksInMyHead]

lol

You have to think about it.

 

[Laodicean60]

Why keep statues just to make racists feel better?

You have to think about it.

Don't call me a racist Please! Because I don't believe the way you do. That happens a lot these days.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Don't call me a racist Please! Because I don't believe the way you do. That happens a lot these days.

I did not call you a racist. Unless you were calling me one and took my reflection of your comment as reciprocation?

 

[Desk trauma]

Don't call me a racist Please! Because I don't believe the way you do.

But you get to call everyone else hypocrites for having the temerity to disagree with you?

 

[Laodicean60]

Why keep statues just to make racists feel better?

You have to think about it.

I did not call you a racist. Unless you were calling me one and took my reflection of your comment as reciprocation?

Since I think statues should be kept, I'm called a racist by Fire, I laughed. Then you say I have to think about it. I did.

 

[Laodicean60]

But you get to call everyone else hypocrites for having the temerity to disagree with you?

No It's not about disagreeing with me. The whole conversation is about our racist ancestors and the outrage because of it. When a person in the 21st century makes a racist comment there is no outrage. That is being a hypocrite.

 

[Desk trauma]

No It's not about disagreeing with me. The whole conversation is about our racist ancestors and the outrage because of it. When a person in the 21st century makes a racist comment there is no outrage. That is being a hypocrite.

In what way is it hypocritical to oppose naming public schools in the US after those who made war on the US? Where’s the double standard?

 

[Laodicean60]

In what way is it hypocritical to oppose naming public schools in the US after those who made war in the US? Where’s the double standard?

Those people in the South who made war with the North were people racists who desired slavery. Then a 21st-century candidate makes a racist comment with no outrage. That is the double standard.

 

[Laodicean60]

I did not call you a racist. Unless you were calling me one and took my reflection of your comment as reciprocation?

Play word games. You did not disagree with Fire so what am I to think? You jumped on his bandwagon.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Since I think statues should be kept, I'm called a racist by Fire, I laughed. Then you say I have to think about it. I did.

I don't think he was calling you a racist either - you made a sweeping, somewhat insulting, generalization by claiming that the only reason why people want the statues removed was so that "kids can feel better about themselves". He flipped your assertion around. That's what I wanted you to think about.