Good! Then you realize there is a difference between latria and doulia and that you were wrong to accuse Apostolic Christians of idolatry!
Where are the words "doulia" and "latria" mentioned in The Bible?
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in so it is unnecessary to read another version that came after the
original scrolls.
Where are these "originals"?
These "originals" are where we get The Holy Bible from...
The Dead Sea scrolls back them up!!!
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The Bible isn't the Word of God.
"All Scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
2 Timothy 3:16
"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke [as they were] moved by the Holy Spirit"
2 Peter 1:21
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"But Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said:
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"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29
We do, which is why we recognize the difference between
latria and
doulia.
Again, where in Scripture/God's Word (Chapter & verse) do the words or commands concerning "latria" and or "doulla" appear?
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Originally Posted by
iannassah
Look up the definitions for the word "worship" for yourself... not according to Webster's but look up the original Aramaic/Hebrew & Greek words.... please post what you find!!!
You
do realize that when the KJV says "worship," it means what worship meant back in 1611.
I'm looking at the original word (in The Holy Bible/God's Word/Scripture) "worship" in Aramaic/Hebrew & Greek, not what man's interpretation of the word is, therefore, i do not need to look at a copy (1611) of the original word or definition.
Worship back then had a wider definition. It meant both
latria and
doulia and you would have to be very careful to tell which it meant by looking at the context.
Thankfully, English is a very adaptive language, and with more words now in use, worship today means
latria and reverence means
doulia and even
hyperdoulia.
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Where in God's Word does it say to build, make or mold images and venerate them? i can only accept verse(s) & Chapter(s) from The Holy Bible!
Gee...then why do you even believe in the Trinity? The orthodox dogma of it as shown in the Nicene Creed isn't found in Scripture.
But...since you asked:
Ex. 25:1820 (cherubim of gold...cherubim are angels)
1 Chr. 28:1819 (statues of angels with altars!)
Ezekiel 41:1718 (statues in the worship hall!)
"who serve the copy (angels, altars) and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, "See that you make all things (angels, altars, what other statues are you referring to?) according to the pattern shown you on the mountain"
Hebrews 8:4 & 5
Num. 21:89 (venerating statues of serpants! God told them too not just make it, but
venerate it!!!)
Have you read the story of the serpent? Here is the Quote of the verse that you refer to...:
"Then the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery [serpent], and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live."
Numbers 21:8
i don't see the word venerate here at all! In fact in the original language the definition for the word "look" is:
ra'ah
1) to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
a) (Qal)
1) to see
2) to see, perceive
3) to see, have vision
4) to look at, see, regard, look after, see after, learn about, observe, watch, look upon, look out, find out
5) to see, observe, consider, look at, give attention to, discern, distinguish
6) to look at, gaze at
b) (Niphal)
1) to appear, present oneself
2) to be seen
3) to be visible
c) (Pual) to be seen
d) (Hiphil)
1) to cause to see, show
2) to cause to look intently at, behold, cause to gaze at
e) (Hophal)
1) to be caused to see, be shown
2) to be exhibited to
f) (Hithpael) to look at each other, face
How do you get "
Venerate" out of that verse?
"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:
If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and
from the things which are written in this book"
Revelations 22:19
