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No, Nestorians separate the humanity of Christ from His divinity. I don't believe that.
I'd love to see scriptural proof of that claim.
So, you think that God just deposited the body of Jesus into the womb of Mary?
Mary gave birth to Jesus both human and divine. Do you not agree with that? Giving birth to Jesus does not give Mary any powers other than being blessed forever.
Saying that only the human side of Jesus is born of the Virgin Mary is separating Christ's humanity from His divinity. I don't care what argument you use to back it up. Just because you cannot conceive of how Mary could have literally given birth to God doesn't mean it is not so.
I said nothing of the sort, and absolutely not. However, you are attempting to explain the workings of the Spirit, and you'd better have Scripture backing you up if you're going to try to do that.
I do. But the divine did not come from Mary, it came from God.
You need to read my posts instead of proff texting them. I specifically mentioned that Mary gave birth to BOTH the human and the divine nature of Christ.
So did Mary literaly gave birth to the eternal God? Can you explain that?
And I say you are saying that God has a mother, you better back that up with scripture.
I have heard Catholics say that all that Jesus is, came from Mary, that God only caused her egg to begin to divide and become Jesus Christ. Do you believe that?
Really??? where???? Sounds like gossip to me buddy. Nowhere in any Catholic teachings will you find what you just stated..........what you're now doing is slander, I suggest you stop...relying on what someone"might have" said versus what Catholics believe and teach are two different things.........shame on you.And I say you are saying that God has a mother, you better back that up with scripture. I have heard Catholics say that all that Jesus is, came from Mary, that God only caused her egg to begin to divide and become Jesus Christ. Do you believe that?
I suggest you stop...relying on what someone"might have" said versus what Catholics believe and teach are two different things.........shame on you.
What he posted was bunk.....the Catholic faith does not teach what he stated.........I did. You didn't accept it. Maybe there is no point in debating any further.
Two problems here...
1) I am not Roman Catholic.
2) No. They're doing the same thing you're doing: trying to explain the inexplicable. (edit: I'm not meaning to refer to ALL Catholics here!)
What he posted was bunk.....the Catholic faith does not teach what he stated.........
Hey wait, does that mean we can start posting stuff that some wacko snake handler says is <insert church here> and say that they all believe that.............eeeeewwwwwwww.....
I was hoping someone would pop in and say that.
That you did, but earlier you used the qualifier "symbolically" to describe how Mary could give birth to the divine nature of Christ. I'm arguing that you are putting up an unacceptable barrier between the divine and human sides of Christ. There is no prooftexting going on here anywhere; you are not understanding what I'm arguing.
I do understand what you are argueing since I have had this argument with other EO's in the past. The qualifier is "symbolically" because Mary could not have given birth to the eternal God literally. That would be impossible. Mary did not give Jesus his divinity. Jesus divinity was already there at the time that Jesus was concieved in the womb by the HS.
While it is true that we do not know how the HS incarnated Jesus, we do lnow that it was the HS. Again, Jesus divinity there at the time of incarnation because Jesus is and always has been God.Can I explain the miracle of the Incarnation? I absolutely cannot. And neither can anyone else, with the exception of God Himself.
I'm tired of people trying to warp and bend the truth to suit their own ends in attacking the Church.......makes me sick
Who disputes this??????I do understand what you are argueing since I have had this argument with other EO's in the past. The qualifier is "symbolically" because Mary could not have given birth to the eternal God literally. That would be impossible. Mary did not give Jesus his divinity. Jesus divinity was already there at the time that Jesus was concieved in the womb by the HS.
While it is true that we do not know how the HS incarnated Jesus, we do lnow that it was the HS. Again, Jesus divinity there at the time of incarnation because Jesus is and always has been God.
The qualifier is "symbolically" because Mary could not have given birth to the eternal God literally. That would be impossible.
While it is true that we do not know how the HS incarnated Jesus, we do lnow that it was the HS.
Again, Jesus divinity there at the time of incarnation because Jesus is and always has been God.
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