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Colleen,

My heart goes out to you on your last statement.

Guess what I found out? That withholding something from someone can also be abuse. I have never really thought about this. Withholding abuse is when someone withholds love, food and care or possibly intimate times. And I believe it is in my marriage from my husband. I thought long and hard on this and it made sense to me.

Talk about a wake up call.

Moriah Ruth
 
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I wanted to share this if I may Colleen,

Withholding Affection - Is This a Form of Abuse?

By Rosy Anderson


Abuse in a relationship can be defined as mistreatment or misuse or abuse of the other person. But there is life threatening abuse that maims you physically and emotionally and then there are other less traumatizing forms of abuse that also change who you are in subtle ways. Looking at the various forms of abuse; is withholding affection a form of abuse? Withholding affection means that the person has affectionate feelings for you but either holds back or refuses to give you the affection they feel for you. Is this a form of abuse?

1. Is he affectionate towards other people? If he is withholding affection from you then the place to start is by investigating whether this happens only in relation to you alone or also includes other people. Does he withhold affection from the other women in his life like his sisters, girl friends, mum etc? What about the close men he is in relationship with? Observe your man carefully and how he relates to other people. He may just be unable to show affection to people and you may need to seek help with him to understand what has blocked his emotional flow and how he and you can work at unblocking it. If he is impaired in his ability to be practically affectionate towards you and others than he is not abusing you deliberately as he is simply emotionally blocked by his own fears or past experiences

2. Is your definition of 'affection' the same as his? His withholding of affection may just be your perception as his definition of affection may be completely different from yours. When you say he is withholding affection from you; what exactly do you mean? What actions do you want him to do so that you can feel loved? Define for yourself what you want him to do or say so that you can feel his affection for you. Remember that he was socialized differently from you, he is a guy and his personality is different from yours. So let him know in clear and simple terms what it is that you would like him to do differently. If his definition of affection is different from yours then it's a case of miscommunication and not of abuse.

3. Does he think that he no longer needs to be affectionate towards you since he has captured you (so to speak)? Once a man has won you over then he may feel that the chase is over and so the need for 'extra' effort becomes no longer necessary in his opinion. Does this describe your man? Has your man changed since he married you or moved in with you? Has he left all his affectionate deeds and words to the period when he was still dating you? Then you and he may need to have a talk so that you can bridge the gap between both of your expectations. If this is your situation then he is not abusing you as your problem is a mismatch of expectations that you can both work on.

4. Is he neglecting you?As he withholds his affection; is he also neglecting you? A man who is withholding his affection and himself from you is abusing you in the sense that he treating you less than you deserve. If his affections have moved away from you and he is also neglecting you then you need to re-evaluate your relationship as this is an indication that there is something terribly wrong in your relationship. Find out if his affection has moved away from you to another woman? Find out where his affections have moved to and make a decision on the way forward. If you continue in this relationship as it is then your self esteem will degenerate and you will feel emotionally abused. In this case he is withholding his affection and he is clearly abusing you by doing this.

5. Is he manipulating you? A man may withhold his affection as a way to get you to do what he wants. This is a clear form of abuse as he controls you by withholding his affection when you do or say something that he doesn't like. And then he rewards you with affection when you do what he wants. You don't feel loved; instead you feel used and manipulated. It's almost like his love for you is conditional; he only loves you when you act in the way that he wants. He wants to be the standard for what is right and wrong for you, what is acceptable and non acceptable behavior for you etc. This is a manipulative abusive relationship where your man is trying to take away your power by withholding his affections from you.
Abuse can be obvious in situations where he is emotionally or physically abusive but it can be less obvious when he withholds his emotions from you and thus emotionally abandons you or manipulates you. If he is withholding affection from you then I hope you now understand why he is doing so and what you can do to bring that bad behavior to an end.

If his emotional manipulation has you in a state of confusion then get these signs of a man's love so that you can know what he really feels about you but if your last few boyfriends have all been manipulative or abusive then get this communication guide to help you understand the signals that you are sending out and how you can change them.

Article Source: http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Rosy_Anderson

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Colleen,

My heart goes out to you on your last statement.

Guess what I found out? That withholding something from someone can also be abuse. I have never really thought about this. Withholding abuse is when someone withholds love, food and care or possibly intimate times. And I believe it is in my marriage from my husband. I thought long and hard on this and it made sense to me.

Talk about a wake up call.

Moriah Ruth

Yes, some of what you described sounds passive aggressive and then neglectful. They are both unhealthy and can lead us to feel devalued. ....but that's the thing, no matter what someone else does out of their insecurity / unhealthy motives, etc., I try to not let it define my life but it can be easier said than done when it is repeatedly happening and the people have played bigger roles in our lives... E.G. mother, father, husband.
 
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I agree with Colleen and Moriah Ruth. What Colleen wrote ... I also struggle with. No one like manipulations nor being controlled. I resent it when people try to control me. God made us free spirits, and people should respect others' freewill.

How they act reflect who they are, I don't have to pay for their sins. People continue to do hurtful things: stabbing, put-down, control, and manipulate. We just have to run away from them, or set up boundaries so they won't hurt us. Some people are so out-of-bound that they exert control on others, instead of on themselves.

I resent it when people play God, and speak for me rather than for THEMSELVES. I refuse to let anyone influence me except for Jesus Christ. Once I block evil-spirits who try to play God out of my life, and let the real God into my boundary, then I'm safe.
 
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^^Yes, we don't need to pay for others sins and yeah, it can seem that other people are more busy trying to control and manipulate others rather than fixing the things in their own lives etc. If I was allowing others to control my life etc. , in my opinion, I would be allowing that to be my God and it wouldn't be right for my life. What God wants should come first and that brings contentment and peace.
 
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I love what you wrote, Colleen: "If I was allowing others to control my life etc. , in my opinion, I would be allowing that to be my God and it wouldn't be right for my life."

Yes, my motto in life is "never allow anything, or anybody to control me, or to be my God except for Jesus Christ." THANK YOU for your wisdom.
 
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Oh Colleen,

I forgot to tell you that your flowers of your avatar are beautiful.

Also I never thought that I could have started a thread of my posting. Sorry for posting it here. I did re-post it under the title Withholding Affection is Abuse.

I pray that all is well with you. Blessings.

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I love what you wrote, Colleen: "If I was allowing others to control my life etc. , in my opinion, I would be allowing that to be my God and it wouldn't be right for my life."

Yes, my motto in life is "never allow anything, or anybody to control me, or to be my God except for Jesus Christ." THANK YOU for your wisdom.

Aww :hug: Thank you for being so validating. You know, I made the mistake of trying to talk to someone that same day stuff was going on and I know she's not so...aware...of social issues but ....I talked to her in general terms any way. It was so invalidating, I felt worse after. You know, like Job's friends. She has positive points of course but some people are more gifted / understanding with certain things. Any way, I just hate that feeling of feeling hurt then on top of it guilted / invalidated / shamed / dismissed. ...UGH!!! ick ... :sigh: Any way, I'm feeling better now that I've talked about it with people who understand and now that I've had some good time to myself to process some of it.
 
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Oh Colleen,

I forgot to tell you that your flowers of your avatar are beautiful.

Also I never thought that I could have started a thread of my posting. Sorry for posting it here. I did re-post it under the title Withholding Affection is Abuse.

I pray that all is well with you. Blessings.

Moriah Ruth

Oh, it's all good. :hug: I never even thought anything of it. ;) :D I thought it was relevant. I was just ...I guess kind of quiet this morning ...and yesterday after speaking to someone who really doesn't understand... so at times after that happens I withdraw a bit and I'm less mouthy. :D ;)

Glad you like my flowers. :) I try to make things purdy or funny.
 
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Colleen,

I know exactly what you are going through with the invalidation. It can be so negative. To be honest I didn't even know what good validation was. Actually I have two websites saved. one is with invalidation and the other is validation.

Check them out when you get a chance. I have not read them yet, however I know it will help. Thre is a lot of info though.

Invalidation --invalidation

Validation --validation

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Colleen,

I know exactly what you are going through with the invalidation. It can be so negative. To be honest I didn't even know what good validation was. Actually I have two websites saved. one is with invalidation and the other is validation.

Check them out when you get a chance. I have not read them yet, however I know it will help. Thre is a lot of info though.

Invalidation --invalidation

Validation --validation

Moriah Ruth

Yeah, I understand. That's the thing. I get it academically but at the same time in my heart......I just don't understand why people want to live a life of denial, avoidance, lies, abuse. I guess changing and healing is hard work but to me it doesn't make sense to never want to get better and find real peace and contentment. Denial isn't peace...it just eats at the person. So while I get it academically, it just doesn't make sense to me on a personal level. Some people / abusers want to live selfishly ...but it's not real happiness. Then there is the fear...
 
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Colleen, it is funny that you stated that. My husband and I were talking about that very thing. As to why certain people do not want to change or get better. One person we heard this morning stated they like the way they are, mental illness and all. Some even admitted that they didn't want help. It is sad to hear.

I know that I would want to get better and that is what I am striving for.

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Colleen, it is funny that you stated that. My husband and I were talking about that very thing. As to why certain people do not want to change or get better. One person we heard this morning stated they like the way they are, mental illness and all. Some even admitted that they didn't want help. It is sad to hear.

I know that I would want to get better and that is what I am striving for.

Moriah Ruth

Exactly!! You summed it up well. :thumbsup: I get the theory and such in my head but emotionally I'm not motivated the same as that...I'm not wanting to live in denial etc. Yet so many in dysfunctional families and situations can't seem to stand it if you are getting healthy and living in truth etc. I can understand the abuser not wanting to lose control and the abused being scared but...very sad. One reason why I started this thread. To really know that we are valuable and it's okay to be healthy and happy. We don't have to take on the abuser's sin and shame.
 
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Thanks, I appreciate your insight and validation. :)

I value your validation of me,Colleen! When I was down in the dumps (depressed),you knew how to lift my spirits..playing the smilies game was one way.It does not take a lot to help someone who is down,in fact,sometimes we don't realize that we are doing it in the first place...
You will always be my freind:hug:!
 
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I value your validation of me,Colleen! When I was down in the dumps (depressed),you knew how to lift my spirits..playing the smilies game was one way.It does not take a lot to help someone who is down,in fact,sometimes we don't realize that we are doing it in the first place...
You will always be my freind:hug:!

Awww...thanks. :hug: That's very sweet of you to say. :) I'm glad I was able to help. I agree that it doesn't take much to help out at times....many times just simply smiling and acknowledging someone we meet lifts their spirits.
 
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