"US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists"

[LittleNipper]

Little Nipper>>

you've failed to address one of my questions; how did Abraham make an informed judgement about the virtue of the people of Sodom and Gamorrah? Did he interview every individual? If so, how many people did he interview (the whole city?)? In what manner did he conduct this investigation? Deductively or inductively? What were the criteria used to base the overall 'evilness' of the city?

and, why did he need abraham to conduct this investigation? Wouldn't God already know if there were ten good souls in the city if Hes omniscient?

I believe you missed my point. Abraham asked GOD to spare the citles of the plain if GOD found 10 righteous souls living there. GOD agreed, and later destroyed the cities. GOD judged and not Abraham. If GOD found no righteous people in those cities, then there were no righteous people to be found there.

 

[LittleNipper]

There is a lot of research done upon homosexuals to study their cases.
The least possible claim is that homosexuality is a HABIT.

They're studying hormonal changes and, believe it or not, the answer could be lying in the DNA and homosexuality could be inherited.
Scientists are still looking for answers in that field.

Sin was inherited from Adam, so go figure. That does not make sin a good thing.

 

[MacCoyle]

Sin was inherited from Adam, so go figure. That does not make sin a good thing.

And Nipper your beliefs were inherited. Does that make them anymore right?

 

[LittleNipper]

And Nipper your beliefs were inherited. Does that make them anymore right?

Beliefs are not inherited. They are practiced; however, only truth allows for dissension. Lies seek for to silence the adversary.

 

[Dal M.]

Lies seek for to silence the adversary.

So if a creationist said that evolutionists ought to be tarred and feathered in order to silence them, what does that say about creationism?

 

[Chalnoth]

Beliefs are not inherited. They are practiced; however, only truth allows for dissension. Lies seek for to silence the adversary.

The single largest factor for whether or not a person adheres to a particular religion is the religion of their parents. Ergo, you're wrong. Beliefs are inherited. The vehicle of inheritance just isn't our genes.

 

[eBAUMSjustBAUMedU]

RON PAUL

 

[Cabal]

RON PAUL

No.

 

[TheOutsider]

RON PAUL

Nope, Mike Gravel

 

[tanzanos]

I believe you missed my point. Abraham asked GOD to spare the citles of the plain if GOD found 10 righteous souls living there. GOD agreed, and later destroyed the cities. GOD judged and not Abraham. If GOD found no righteous people in those cities, then there were no righteous people to be found there.

You mean He could not find 10 children? or 10 Babies? Surely in 2 cities one could find hundreds of innocent children or babies.
AH but God the all Good being decided that to bake them together with the rest is a sign of his benevolence!

What SICK and EVIL GOD would do such things?

 

[LittleNipper]

So if a creationist said that evolutionists ought to be tarred and feathered in order to silence them, what does that say about creationism?

No more than what it says about a evolutionist who says creationism contains no scientific material. He speaks for himself and not the group at large.

 

[LittleNipper]

You mean He could not find 10 children? or 10 Babies? Surely in 2 cities one could find hundreds of innocent children or babies.
AH but God the all Good being decided that to bake them together with the rest is a sign of his benevolence!

What SICK and EVIL GOD would do such things?

Can homosexual sex produce babies? GOD knows the future of every baby and what that baby may one day become. Cities were not measured in millions but in hundreds back then. Read the story and consider that everyone was once a little baby-----even Hitler. GOD is not sick or evil. GOD is just and merciful. GOD, not you created everything. That means that GOD, and not you, has the absolute right to do whatever glorifies HIM. Who are you that you should attempt to judge GOD ALMIGHTY. Come the judgment, you just go and tell HIM exactly what you think of HIM. I would not be surprised if you are totally silent.

 

[LittleNipper]

The single largest factor for whether or not a person adheres to a particular religion is the religion of their parents. Ergo, you're wrong. Beliefs are inherited. The vehicle of inheritance just isn't our genes.

My dad was raised Roman Catholic. He became a saved individual and began attending a community church. I was raised in that church and became a Fundamentalist. I'm not saved because my dad is saved. I'm saved because GOD revealed HIS grace to me and I accepted it.

 

[thaumaturgy]

GOD is just and merciful.

Is God all just and all merciful? Or just sometimes just and sometimes merciful?

This is a fun question for me because as I understand it "Justice is tempered with mercy", and in a very real sense, mercy is applied as opposed to justice.

Justice means do wrong and get punished. Mercy means do wrong, get a second chance.

So is God all just and all merciful or is he occasionally just and occasionally merciful?

How do you know when God is going to be just versus when he's going to be merciful?

 

[thaumaturgy]

No more than what it says about a evolutionist who says creationism contains no scientific material. He speaks for himself and not the group at large.

Could you point us in the direction of some creation science?

I mean, real science, not just "poking holes in other peoples' work" or "simply asking questions" or "developing doubt for doubt's sake". While those are all things people can do, they really aren't all there is to science.

 

[LittleNipper]

Could you point us in the direction of some creation science?

I mean, real science, not just "poking holes in other peoples' work" or "simply asking questions" or "developing doubt for doubt's sake". While those are all things people can do, they really aren't all there is to science.

I'd say that you had ample opportunities. And the fact is that you, yourself could begin such research on your own behalf

 

[Skaloop]

My dad was raised Roman Catholic. He became a saved individual and began attending a community church. I was raised in that church and became a Fundamentalist. I'm not saved because my dad is saved. I'm saved because GOD revealed HIS grace to me and I accepted it.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there aren't exceptions. But parental religion is the best predictor of their child's religion.

Your dad's the exception to the rule. You're the evidence of the rule.

 

[LittleNipper]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there aren't exceptions. But parental religion is the best predictor of their child's religion.

Your dad's the exception to the rule. You're the evidence of the rule.

IF, (as you believe) a person's parents are the best indicator of what that person's religion will ultimately be, and that proves religious persuasion to be inherited, then one must consider that homosexual parents will pass the enjoyment of homosexuality onto their own children or any they may adopt.... Parents who are heterosexual, will pass on the trait and those with conservative values will have children with same.

 

[Skaloop]

IF as you say, that a person's parents are the best indicator of what that person's religion will ultimately be, and that proves religious persuasion to be inherited, then one must consider that homosexual parents will pass the enjoyment of homosexuality onto their own children or any they may adopt....

Even if that were true, so what?

But it's not true. Most gay people are the children of straight people. Most gay people have straight children. Parental orientation is not the best indicator of sexuality in the same way that parental religion is the best indicator of religion.

Furthermore, twin studies have shown there to be a genetic aspect to homosexuality. No such genetic link is found with specific religious teachings. Yes, twin studies do show a link between more general spirituality or religious leanings, but not to any specific type of religion. Which strongly indicates that which religion one ascribes to is almost wholly due to family, culture, and environment.

 

[mpok1519]

I believe you missed my point. Abraham asked GOD to spare the citles of the plain if GOD found 10 righteous souls living there. GOD agreed, and later destroyed the cities. GOD judged and not Abraham. If GOD found no righteous people in those cities, then there were no righteous people to be found there.

so, within the walls of an entire city, God only found one good soul, and then later fried her for looking back on her city?

now I would like your scientific proof of such happenings. Because to me, its more of a symbollic story if anything.

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