Urantia Book reveals source of life evolution

[doubtingmerle]

You are a humanist, you will always think there is something wrong with spiritual realities until you get over your human-ism.

Uh, pretty much everybody here thinks there is something very wrong with your Urantia Book theology, not just the humanists.

 

[Colter]

Uh, pretty much everybody here thinks there is something very wrong with your Urantia Book theology, not just the humanists.

Well, if you ever do actually read it and know what it is that you disagree with, then we can discuss something other than your pre-conceived beliefs born out of ignorance.

 

[AV1611VET]

The ordinances of the Old Testament were eternal, to be kept forever.

No.

The Law was to bring us to Jesus Christ.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, if you ever do actually read it and know what it is that you disagree with, then we can discuss something other than your pre-conceived beliefs born out of ignorance.

How about these for starters?

1. Prayer is not to be attempted until one has "exhausted the human capacity for human adjustment." In addition, "words are irrelevant to prayer."
2. The biblical doctrine of atonement (Hebrews 9:22) "unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice."
3. The home is seen as a "sociological institution," and the belief that marriage is a sacred state is called "unfortunate." "Deity is not a conjoining party" in marriages that dissolve.
4. Mankind's parents were named Andon and Fonta, who procreated Sontad.
5. Adam, Solomon, and David were not in the direct line of ancestry of Joseph, the father of Jesus.
6. Jesus adopted the term "Son of Man" at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch.
7. During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by the natives from India.
8. The indwelling Christ is not essential to salvation, since "Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him."

Source: Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality

 

[Colter]

No.

The Law was to bring us to Jesus Christ.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

That's not what the Jews Bible says, but I haven't known you to be intellectually honest in the past so I had no illusions that you would be honest here.

Galatians is rationalizing, the author wants Judaism and Christianity to be the same religion.

 

[Colter]

How about these for starters?

1. Prayer is not to be attempted until one has "exhausted the human capacity for human adjustment." In addition, "words are irrelevant to prayer."
2. The biblical doctrine of atonement (Hebrews 9:22) "unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice."
3. The home is seen as a "sociological institution," and the belief that marriage is a sacred state is called "unfortunate." "Deity is not a conjoining party" in marriages that dissolve.
4. Mankind's parents were named Andon and Fonta, who procreated Sontad.
5. Adam, Solomon, and David were not in the direct line of ancestry of Joseph, the father of Jesus.
6. Jesus adopted the term "Son of Man" at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch.
7. During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by the natives from India.
8. The indwelling Christ is not essential to salvation, since "Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him."

Source: Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality

That's actually Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality. But they are accurate extrapolations.

 

[SeventyOne]

That's not what the Jews Bible says, but I haven't known you to be intellectually honest in the past so I had no illusions that you would be honest here.

Galatians is rationalizing, the author wants Judaism and Christianity to be the same religion.

It is the same religion. In the OT, it was all building up in anticipation of the Messiah. Christianity is just the name given to those who have followed the Messiah once He arrived. It's a continuous flow. What is called Judiasm today, which rejects the Messiah, is a more modern abberation created by unbelievers as a replacement since they've rejected OT (and by extension the NT as well).

I've already quoted this book for you where it contradicts the gospel. It wasn't hard to find as all demonically channeled works like this one go out of their way at some point to criticize the Gospel. I saw it in the works of Esther Hicks and in 'A Course in Miracles'. All channeled. All demonic in origin. All take time out of their teaching to point out Christianity as a lie.

You'd do well to put this stuff away, like in a fire.

 

[Colter]

63:0.1 URANTIA WAS REGISTERED as an inhabited world when the first two human beings—the twins—were eleven years old, and before they had become the parents of the first-born of the second generation of actual human beings. And the archangel message from Salvington, on this occasion of formal planetary recognition, closed with these words:


"Man-mind has appeared on 606 of Satania, and these parents of the new race shall be called Andon and Fonta. And all archangels pray that these creatures may speedily be endowed with the personal indwelling of the gift of the spirit of the Universal Father."



63:0.3 Andon is the Nebadon name which signifies "the first Fatherlike creature to exhibit human perfection hunger." Fonta signifies "the first Sonlike creature to exhibit human perfection hunger." Andon and Fonta never knew these names until they were bestowed upon them at the time of fusion with their Thought Adjusters. Throughout their mortal sojourn on Urantia they called each other Sonta-an and Sonta-en, Sonta-an meaning "loved by mother," Sonta-en signifying "loved by father." They gave themselves these names, and the meanings are significant of their mutual regard and affection.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's not what the Jews Bible says,

Since when did I start going with what the Jews bible says?

... but I haven't known you to be intellectually honest in the past so I had no illusions that you would be honest here.

What???

I'm dishonest because I quoted the King James Bible over the Jerusalem Bible?

So you go with what the Jerusalem Bible says over the King James Bible, I take it?

I didn't know you were Jewish.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's actually Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality.

Isn't that what I said?

 

[Colter]

Since when did I start going with what the Jews bible says?What???

I'm dishonest because I quoted the King James Bible over the Jerusalem Bible?

So you go with what the Jerusalem Bible says over the King James Bible, I take it?

I didn't know you were Jewish.

The Torah has a religion whith laws and or ordinances that were binding forever.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Torah has a religion whith laws and or ordinances that were binding forever.

And that's the one you're going with? or are you going with Christianity?

Whose side are you on, Christian Seeker, the Torah or the King James Bible?

 

[Colter]

And that's the one you're going with? or are you going with Christianity?

Whose side are you on, Christian Seeker, the Torah or the King James Bible?

You claim God wrote both and that they are inerrant.

I'm going with the original gospel of Jesus.

 

[AV1611VET]

You claim God wrote both and that they are inerrant.

Then why did you rub the Jews' bible in my face?

I'm going with the original gospel of Jesus.

And does this "original gospel of Jesus" say the Law was given to us as a schoolmaster to lead us to Him?

 

[HitchSlap]

Which one of these guys gave the Green Lantern his power ring?

Noah?

 

[Colter]

Then why did you rub the Jews' bible in my face?And does this "original gospel of Jesus" say the Law was given to us as a schoolmaster to lead us to Him?

The only thing Jesus said about the law is that it would still be there after he left. Its still there.

 

[AV1611VET]

The only thing Jesus said about the law is that it would still be there after he left. Its still there.

No, it isn't.

Or you'd be out there sacrificing peace offerings, meat offerings, trespass offerings, and two other offerings I can't think of right now.

 

[Colter]

No, it isn't.

Or you'd be out there sacrificing peace offerings, meat offerings, trespass offerings, and two other offerings I can't think of right now.

Ask some Jewish people if the Laws of Moses are still in Judaism.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ask some Jewish people if the Laws of Moses are still in Judaism.

What does your Urantia Book say?

 

[Colter]

What does your Urantia Book say?

It says that the Leviticus laws were man made, a part of evolutionary religion. The Laws of Moses came from Melchizedek's laws for the Salem colony.

1. You shall not serve any God but the Most High Creator of heaven and earth.
2. You shall not doubt that faith is the only requirement for eternal salvation.
3. You shall not bear false witness.
4. You shall not kill.
5. You shall not steal.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not show disrespect for your parents and elders.