Urantia Book reveals source of life evolution

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I doubt your sincerity. If you have a specific question about the material I will try to answer it as I have read it a number of times.

There is not an ounce of truth nor righteousness nor goodness in urantia - it is deceptive evil, destroying souls every day.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is not an ounce of truth nor righteousness nor goodness in urantia - it is deceptive evil, destroying souls every day.

Did you see the list of Urantia beliefs I posted?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Did you see the list of Urantia beliefs I posted?

I think so. ('old' memory )

 

[AV1611VET]

I think so. ('old' memory )

Here they is again ... sad stuff:

1. Prayer is not to be attempted until one has "exhausted the human capacity for human adjustment." In addition, "words are irrelevant to prayer."
2. The biblical doctrine of atonement (Hebrews 9:22) "unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice."
3. The home is seen as a "sociological institution," and the belief that marriage is a sacred state is called "unfortunate." "Deity is not a conjoining party" in marriages that dissolve.
4. Mankind's parents were named Andon and Fonta, who procreated Sontad.
5. Adam, Solomon, and David were not in the direct line of ancestry of Joseph, the father of Jesus.
6. Jesus adopted the term "Son of Man" at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch.
7. During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by the natives from India.
8. The indwelling Christ is not essential to salvation, since "Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him."

Source: Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There is not an ounce of truth nor righteousness nor goodness in urantia - it is deceptive evil, destroying souls every day.

Here they is again ... sad stuff:

So you agree with YHWH'S WORD and SPIRIT that all YHWH'S people faithful in Jesus by His Grace agree urantia is deceptive evil, destroying souls every day ....

 

[Colter]

Wait, horses evolved down all those dead ends on purpose because somehow those dead ends contributed to all other things? That seems like an ad hoc explanation for all the diversions that nature took in the course of evolution.

Multiplying ad hoc explanations to cover where the original explanation fails is not a sign that we are on the right track. William of Occam figured that out long ago.

William of Occam was wise enough to read a book that he was going to disagree with.

There are many lines in the evolution of animals that are extinct. There were 50 kinds of eliphants, only 2 survived.

Urantia is a decimal planet, a life experimentation world. Under Christ Michaels creatorship there are 10,000 inhabited worlds in a universe of 7 Trillion inhabited planets. The Life Carriers experiment with life forms.

1. Adjustment to planetary environment. There are three general groups of inhabited worlds from the standpoint of the adjustment of creature life to the planetary environment: the normal adjustment group, the radical adjustment group, and the experimental group.

Normal adjustments to planetary conditions follow the general physical patterns previously considered. The worlds of the nonbreathers typify the radical or extreme adjustment, but other types are also included in this group. Experimental worlds are usually ideally adapted to the typical life forms, and on these decimal planets the Life Carriers attempt to produce beneficial variations in the standard life designs. Since your world is an experimental planet, it differs markedly from its sister spheres in Satania; many forms of life have appeared on Urantia that are not found elsewhere; likewise are many common species absent from your planet.


Maybe you should familiarize yourself with what the Life Carriers do and where they come from.

The Life Carriers: Paper 36, The Urantia Book

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

wise enough to read a book that he was going to disagree with.

There is nothing wise, nor right, nor good,
in promoting destruction of souls,
unrighteousness,
wickedness,
and evil,
nor in reading books that do all that, like urantia does.

 

[Colter]

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

urantia ?

The Urantia Book

Short excerpt from long page describing the demon teaching of urantia:

"It is very deceptive as it is shrouded in both biblical and esoteric language and for the ungrounded in truth it can be an false influence. (The only book that is comparable is the channeled book the Course of Miracles. However it is an infant compared to this book). Its purpose is to challenge and distort the Bible as it constantly changes events and persons to be something else. Using the premise and principles and even biblical language these being(s) manipulate the Scripture to a whole new system that only the intelligencia is able to come near to comprehend. When I say near, I mean that even the short sentences are soaked with a plethora of complex spiritual mumbo jumbo that seems to first make sense but its context still eludes you."

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Top warnings on urantia online:

Warning! Do not read the Urantia Book, Period!! Read...
www.datehookup.com/thread-738145.htm - Cached
Aug 8, 2011 ... Any pastor that promotes this is a false teacher. ... that urantia book is evil ... Do not Read the Urantia Book" as being a subtle deception.
Urantia - Masterpiece of Deception May 13, 2016
The Urantia book is of satan. Oct 21, 2015

 

[Colter]

Did you see the list of Urantia beliefs I posted?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The history of the false gospel ..... not worth watching - all deception.

 

[Jimmy D]

urantia ?

The Urantia Book

Short excerpt from long page describing the demon teaching of urantia:

"It is very deceptive as it is shrouded in both biblical and esoteric language and for the ungrounded in truth it can be an false influence. (The only book that is comparable is the channeled book the Course of Miracles. However it is an infant compared to this book). Its purpose is to challenge and distort the Bible as it constantly changes events and persons to be something else. Using the premise and principles and even biblical language these being(s) manipulate the Scripture to a whole new system that only the intelligencia is able to come near to comprehend. When I say near, I mean that even the short sentences are soaked with a plethora of complex spiritual mumbo jumbo that seems to first make sense but its context still eludes you."

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Top warnings on urantia online:

Warning! Do not read the Urantia Book, Period!! Read...
www.datehookup.com/thread-738145.htm - Cached
Aug 8, 2011 ... Any pastor that promotes this is a false teacher. ... that urantia book is evil ... Do not Read the Urantia Book" as being a subtle deception.
Urantia - Masterpiece of Deception May 13, 2016
The Urantia book is of satan. Oct 21, 2015

Colter's done his best to explain his beliefs in a polite manner, despite a fair amount of mockery, without resorting to threats of damnation, casting judgment on anyone, or prejudice. I don't know if he got his moral code from the book of Urantia but certain christians around here could probably learn a thing or two from him.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Colter's done his best to explain his beliefs in a polite manner, despite a fair amount of mockery, without resorting to threats of damnation, casting judgment on anyone, or prejudice. I don't know if he got his moral code from the book of Urantia but certain christians around here could probably learn a thing or two from him.

I notice your 'label' says 'athiest',
i.e. dead to Christ, headed for judgment, unable to see heaven, so far.
Jesus and YHWH NEVER said to have anything to do
with corrupt and evil communications like urantia, rather to EXPOSE THEM (as the evil that they are, DESTROYING SOULS --- evil and perniciously) ....
yes,
even for the sake of those who are deceived by those things -- no, never to be sinful for the sake of being politically nor socially "correct", thus letting them stay , as if, comfortable in their wickedness and sin and idolatry and false gospel that leads many to destruction.

It is a life and death situation - death for those opposed to Jesus, life for those saved in Him.
There is no in-between.... no other safe ground nor place of shelter.

Choose life.

 

[Jimmy D]

I notice your 'label' says 'athiest',
i.e. dead to Christ, headed for judgment, unable to see heaven, so far.
Jesus and YHWH NEVER said to have anything to do
with corrupt and evil communications like urantia, rather to EXPOSE THEM (as the evil that they are, DESTROYING SOULS --- evil and perniciously) ....
yes,
even for the sake of those who are deceived by those things -- no, never to be sinful for the sake of being politically nor socially "correct", thus letting them stay , as if, comfortable in their wickedness and sin and idolatry and false gospel that leads many to destruction.

It is a life and death situation - death for those opposed to Jesus, life for those saved in Him.
There is no in-between.... no other safe ground nor place of shelter.

Choose life.

Love me or suffer the consequences, a beautiful message.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Love me or suffer the consequences, a beautiful message.

It starts in Genesis, and goes through Revelation.
It started in the Garden, and ends when Jesus returns.

There's no other way, no other escape, and no other is needed.

Life or death. That's everyone's choice.

 

[bhsmte]

It starts in Genesis, and goes through Revelation.
It started in the Garden, and ends when Jesus returns.

There's no other way, no other escape, and no other is needed.

Life or death. That's everyone's choice.

Opinion.

Which, you are welcome to.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes, correct.

"550,000,000 years ago the Life Carrier corps returned to Urantia. In co-operation with spiritual powers and superphysical forces we organized and initiated the original life patterns of this world and planted them in the hospitable waters of the realm. All planetary life (aside from extraplanetary personalities) down to the days of Caligastia, the Planetary Prince, had its origin in our three original, identical, and simultaneous marine-life implantations. These three life implantations have been designated as: the central or Eurasian-African, the eastern or Australasian, and the western,embracing Greenland and the Americas."

58:4.3 500,000,000 years ago primitive marine vegetable life was well established on Urantia. Greenland and the arctic land mass, together with North and South America, were beginning their long and slow westward drift. Africamoved slightly south, creating an east and west trough, the Mediterranean basin, between itself and the mother body. Antarctica, Australia, and the land indicated by the islands of the Pacificbroke away on the south and east and have drifted far away since that day.



58:4.4 We had planted the primitive form of marine life in the sheltered tropic bays of the central seas of the east-west cleavage of the breaking-up continental land mass. Our purpose in making three marine-life implantations was to insure that each great land mass would carry this life with it, in its warm-water seas, as the land subsequently separated. We foresaw that in the later era of the emergence of land life large oceans of water would separate these drifting continental land masses." UB

This book makes a few critical errors.
1. It gets the timing of life originating on this planet wrong. There are multiple fossils over 3 billion years old. 550 million years ago, multicellular organisms already existed. In fact, there are some fossils of multicellular organisms much older than that.
2. I know my picture is 540 million years ago and not 550 million years ago, but the land masses this text references weren't configured in a way that would divide up as it says at this time https://image.slidesharecdn.com/pal...-of-continental-drift-7-638.jpg?cb=1394170789 . That is, the supercontinent that existed the closest to when the "seeding of life" took place was already breaking apart by 550 million years ago, and not into the regions described in this text.
It sounds like it is talking about Pangea, which is from 270 million years ago. Plus, there have been multiple instances of the continents converging and diverging. Surely a species aware of the fact that any given supercontinent on this planet would eventually diverge would also be aware that the land mass would converge again as well. So, why act as if seeding the planet before a divergence was significant, especially since seeding the planet is IN THE OCEAN, making the state of the land pretty irrelevant as to whether or not life would cover all land masses with time. Plus, the last paragraph here almost implies these beings were unaware that the continents would re-merge together multiple times.
3. Only 3 different seeding events, and all made it to modern day through various lineages? Highly unlikely, given the number of mass extinction events on this planet. But honestly, this makes the supposed organisms that seeded this planet with life seem extremely incompetent. To get the best results, one would seed this planet with as much variety as possible in as many viable locations as can be found. That way, if the environment changed unexpectedly, it wouldn't be as liable to wipe everything out.
4. 4.3 mentions the "vegetable" life being established in the oceans by 500 million years ago. If this is referring to photosynthetic organisms in general, it is very late to the party. If it is talking about actual plants, it's a bit on the early side. The dominant photosynthetic organism at this time that could be argued to be "plant-like" is algae. Algae aren't plants, though. What would have been far more worth mentioning is all the strange animals that began popping up.
5. Why not seed this planet with a mix of single and multicellular life from the start? There's no reason given to not do it. This would have made the spread and development of life on this planet much faster.

 

[Noxot]

it's hard to fight against mechanisms that are millions of years old. the ordering of reality is something most humans don't notice enough. it takes a certain amount of stable order to create biological lifeforms on a planet. explain the mechanism that creates low entropy states, do humans have one of those yet?

no point in saying that first and foremost humans who write spiritual books preserve the contemplative content in favor of the literal, historical, scientific, ect.

 

[Colter]

Happy Birthday Jesus.


THE BIRTH OF JESUS

122:8.1 "All that night Mary was restless so that neither of them slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well in evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a male child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in the clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible contingency, and laid in a near-by manger." UB 1955

 

[Colter]

In the spiritual evolution on a world like ours, those who fuse the indwelling sprit "translate" such as Enoch.

DEATH AND TRANSLATION 55:2.1

"Natural, physical death is not a mortal inevitability. The majority of advanced evolutionary beings, citizens on worlds existing in the final era of light and life, do not die; they are translated directly from the life in the flesh to the morontia existence......."