Update on Fr. John Corapi

[Davidnic]

Evil man tried to silence him, but God has better plans.

You are free to believe that. I am free to believe otherwise. I do not see him as a hero and SOLT as some evil conspiracy. I am sure it will all eventually be made public.

 

[Tigg]

the worst of all of this is Corapi leaving the priesthood. His sermons brought many to Christ. His section on the radio was always on when I went to work in my car and now because of this I cannot hear him preach anymore when I go to work in my car in the morning. The only other show I liked was "Life is worth Living", but while I love Fulton Sheen he speaks from an era that is different than today, whereas Corapi spoke about what was happening this moment.

Yes, exactly.

 

[JoabAnias]

Personally, watching this from the start and just looking at how it all went down timeline...I think he is a liar and I do not believe a word he says. I pray for him but I think he is a liar. I believe SOLT and think he should listen to his order as he vowed. Corapi seems to have lied in many statements or at least misrepresented the actual known timeline. He is slowly being caught in a web of his own lies and leading people to attack Bishops and SOLT.

Too much stinks here. I am not saying SOLT bears no responsibility for allowing this to all take root and grow. They fostered his cult of personality for obvious reasons and allowed him a long leash, so to speak...not a pun on his black sheep dog nonsense.

Now they have to come clean with what they found. And they have done that...because if they did not all of this will come out and they need to get above it and do the right thing, even though late...by calling him to obedience.

His lawyers may have advised he sue the woman based on violation of a gag order in her contract but he is a priest before all else. Or he should be.

I respect what good he did but at this point I find him really sad and I believe that SOLT is not lying. I do not really engage in shadow conspiracies where entire orders of the Catholic Church are out to get one lone black sheep dog.

Soon we will have Da Vinci code albino assassins and evil shadow orders of the Roman Church stalking the one good priest with the secret to bring them all down.

Corapi is on a path to become a parody of himself. Dan Brown novels do not translate to reality and for Corapi to be right they would have to do so.

I can't find any reason to believe SOLT is not truthful.

I don't find any lies by Corapi either.

There isn't enough evidence to do either yet.

 

[isshinwhat]

Bishop Garcia also attacked, in April, his fellow Bishop(s) and religious superiors. He also said that they should not have even told people about the allegations made about Corapi...And claimed individual Bishops are abusive in such investigations of sexual abuse. He has his personal opinions on this that are not Magisterial and are his own legal advice.

So he wants the same veil of secrecy that resulted in the sexual abuse crisis.

Bishop Gracida is one of the holiest priests the Church has, David. You would be wise to listen to what he says.

 

[Michie]

that's the one part of the site I could find anything even written on taking vows of poverty regarding SOLT. Its pretty clear Corapi was did not take vows of poverty with them, otherwise he would never have been with them in the first place since they already knew of his ministry and public speaking.

That is why I say that there is more shady business going on than just Corapi running amok. There are other culpable in this too. Was Corapi profitable? Was there an arrangement made? If so, it seems the priesthood can be fashioned to suit. It really has me throroughly disgusted.

While Catholics are debating chastity, contraception, poverty of vows... we have this mess along with all the other messes combined.

This guy could not had done this & had this lifestyle without the Church knowing imo.

 

[Davidnic]

I can't find any reason to believe SOLT is not truthful.

I don't find any lies by Corapi either.

There isn't enough evidence to do either yet.

Interesting. So you think we just have no idea yet. I believe SOLT and that means Corapi is lying. I could be wrong but they are not going to release that statement if it is lies. That is a loose/loose for them. If they had no evidence then they would have stayed silent.

 

[isshinwhat]

I can't find any reason to believe SOLT is not truthful.

I don't find any lies by Corapi either.

There isn't enough evidence to do either yet.

THANK YOU, JESUS!

 

[JoabAnias]

Bishop Garcia also attacked, in April, his fellow Bishop(s) and religious superiors. He also said that they should not have even told people about the allegations made about Corapi...And claimed individual Bishops are abusive in such investigations of sexual abuse. He has his personal opinions on this that are not Magisterial and are his own legal advice.

So he wants the same veil of secrecy that resulted in the sexual abuse crisis.

So there are Bishops against Bishops?

 

[Michie]

that's the one part of the site I could find anything even written on taking vows of poverty regarding SOLT. Its pretty clear Corapi did not take vows of poverty with them, otherwise he would never have been with them in the first place since they already knew of his ministry and public speaking.

That fact that SOLT was with Corapi for years and didn't say anything about his vows of poverty during that time before this happened. Then all of a sudden after his character assassination they make allegations regarding his vows of poverty. If they were so concerned why did they take him on in the first place?

I think once your name is smeared in the mud you have a tendency to be thrown under the bus.

I'm replying because you edited your post. It appears that way. I really don't see a victim here anymore though. I see a shady arrangement that went bad. Now everyone is trying to cover their hides.

 

[Davidnic]

Bishop Gracida is one of the holiest priests the Church has, David. You would be wise to listen to what he says.

And I like much of what he has done in his life. But in this it is a personal legal opinion and I felt he also threw his brother Bishops under the bus with his April 1 statement on Corapi and what he said.

As a Bishop he has my respect and obedience. When he makes personal non-magisteral advice...I think he is interfering with SOLT in this case.

 

[isshinwhat]

Interesting. So you think we just have no idea yet. I believe SOLT and that means Corapi is lying. I could be wrong but they are not going to release that statement if it is lies. That is a loose/loose for them. If they had no evidence then they would have stayed silent.

Michie answered your question, "Now everyone is trying to cover their hides."

 

[StThomasMore]

Here is a statement from the accuser to someone trying to explain to her why it was simony to sell rosaries blessed by Fr. Corapi:



Instead of accepting correction, she got hostile and threatening. That is interesting.

wow, that was an extremely hostile letter. Sounds like a very angry unstable person. Almost like an angry immature teenage girl or something. If that letter is really from the accuser her credibility has dropped even lower for me.

 

[Michie]

Michie answered your question, "Now everyone is trying to cover their hides."

I think it is obvious.

 

[isshinwhat]

And I like much of what he has done in his life. But in this it is a personal legal opinion and I felt he also threw his brother Bishops under the bus with his April 1 statement on Corapi and what he said.

As a Bishop he has my respect and obedience. When he makes personal non-magisteral advice...I think he is interfering with SOLT in this case.

He gave his advice to Fr. Corapi through the founder of SOLT, and a SOLT priest passed that advice to Fr. Corapi in person. There could very well be more at play within the organization that you or I are aware of.

 

[Davidnic]

So there are Bishops against Bishops?

One Bishop, but of course, one person can be right...we know that. I found his April 1 statement to be...skewed a bit to me.

 

[Davidnic]

He gave his advice to Fr. Corapi through the founder of SOLT, and a SOLT priest passed that advice to Fr. Corapi in person. There could very well be more at play within the organization that you or I are aware of.

Indeed, freely admitted

 

[Michie]

I feel like everyone is not seeing the forest for the trees here.

 

[JoabAnias]

Interesting. So you think we just have no idea yet. I believe SOLT and that means Corapi is lying. I could be wrong but they are not going to release that statement if it is lies. That is a loose/loose for them. If they had no evidence then they would have stayed silent.

I think we have lots of good ideas and there are things on all sides that don't look right but in themselves, none are conclusive.

I am beginning to think this is a case of Corapi actually doing something wrong that is blown out of proportion.

I get that from reading Corapi's recent rebuttal of the SOLT statement, both which I believe, but to what degree the SOLT statement is incriminating, I am yet unsure.

Even if they have evidence as they claim, there is the chance it was contrived or trumped up by the hostile accuser, which may be why he is taking it to a court of law.

It appears the SOLT has been remiss in ways as well. We will have to wait to see. I'm not comfortable making any presumptions one way or the other at this point.

 

[Davidnic]

Michie answered your question, "Now everyone is trying to cover their hides."

True and I think they are trying to distance themselves from the fact that they fostered his cult of personality and allowed his monetary abuses for their own reasons based on his fame.

But there is no advantage to them lying about evidence they have. If they set the field at...when he lies we counter with what we have. Which is what they have done. Then they need to be ready to take that up step by step if he, as they say he is, continues to mislead the faithful.

Otherwise releasing the statement was really foolish. So given that I will believe them until it seems otherwise.

 

[isshinwhat]

There are other culpable in this too. Was Corapi profitable? Was there an arrangement made? If so, it seems the priesthood can be fashioned to suit.

In some ways it can. He was not a parish priest. Father Corapi has certain gifts that the founder of SOLT recognized and provided a loose structure to allow him to take best advantage of those gifts... Given that he is innocent of the charges leveled against him, if he abused that laxity (which would mostly be a matter of opinion) then that still does not change the validity of the structure he was under. I don't personally care that he had a motorcycle, large house, etc. If he donated to charity and wasn't under a vow of poverty, why begrudge him that...?