Update on Fr. John Corapi

[JoabAnias]

wow, that was an extremely hostile letter. Sounds like a very angry unstable person. Almost like an angry immature teenage girl or something. If that letter is really from the accuser her credibility has dropped even lower for me.

I can assure you it is really from her. I have known who she was from near the beginning and we are networked on two separate media sites. I literally quoted that from one of her own posts on her own profile. I wouldn't make to much out of it though. All it really means is she doesn't understand why its wrong to give away a blessed sacramental as an incentive to sell something and then gets hostile about correction. It may indicate why she wrote the letter once fired from Santa Cruiz but even so, it doesn't mean what she wrote was not in some form true either. She was close enough to have been privy to information she claims. I tend to think there was some form of twisting of truth. It really doesn't matter how much was true or not. Its still grounds for suspension and the reactions by Fr. have been more secular than holy imo.

 

[Davidnic]

In some ways it can. He was not a parish priest. Father Corapi has certain gifts that the founder of SOLT recognized and provided a loose structure to allow him to take best advantage of those gifts... Given that he is innocent of the charges leveled against him, if he abused that laxity (which would mostly be a matter of opinion) then that still does not change the validity of the structure he was under. I don't personally care that he had a motorcycle, large house, etc. If he donated to charity and wasn't under a vow of poverty, why begrudge him that...?

And I think part of that is if the founder of SOLT allowed him leeway and he abused it and it spiraled into prostitution and drug use...then it is possible many people are covering up here for mistakes. It is also possible that people do not want to believe this of their friend.

We do not know.

Eventually it will all come out. What is highlighted for me is that TV priests can develop a cult of personality around them that is unsettling at best. It becomes about them and not the message that is bigger than them.

 

[JoabAnias]

One Bishop, but of course, one person can be right...we know that. I found his April 1 statement to be...skewed a bit to me.

Has Bishop Mulvey said anything publically that you know of?

 

[Davidnic]

Has Bishop Mulvey said anything publically that you know of?

Not that I know of, I would be interested to see if he has.

 

[isshinwhat]

But there is no advantage to them lying about evidence they have.

I don't necessarily even believe they are lying, I believe they are gambling. I think they are running with evidence that they originally said was inconclusive because they are feeling the heat and don't want it to be said they sat on something that some people feel should have been made public. Everyone is afraid of complicity in a scandal... I see it in my job and it is disgusting because good people get railroaded.

 

[Davidnic]

I don't necessarily even believe they are lying, I believe they are gambling. I think they are running with evidence that they originally said was inconclusive because they are feeling the heat and don't want it to be said they sat on something that some people feel should have been made public. Everyone is afraid of complicity in a scandal... I see it in my job and it is disgusting because good people get railroaded.

Very well Could be

 

[isshinwhat]

And I think part of that is if the founder of SOLT allowed him leeway and he abused it and it spiraled into prostitution and drug use...then it is possible many people are covering up here for mistakes. It is also possible that people do not want to believe this of their friend.

We do not know.

Eventually it will all come out. What is highlighted for me is that TV priests can develop a cult of personality around them that is unsettling at best. It becomes about them and not the message that is bigger than them.

What a burden being a popular preacher, Bishop, Priest, Abbot, etc. must be. I do not wish that on my worst enemy...

 

[Michie]

True and I think they are trying to distance themselves from the fact that they fostered his cult of personality and allowed his monetary abuses for their own reasons based on his fame.

But there is no advantage to them lying about evidence they have. If they set the field at...when he lies we counter with what we have. Which is what they have done. Then they need to be ready to take that up step by step if he, as they say he is, continues to mislead the faithful.

Otherwise releasing the statement was really foolish. So given that I will believe them until it seems otherwise.

At this point I don't believe anyone. I think the whole thing is an arrangement gone bad. Corapi being the fall guy. (With good reason). But I don't believe anyone to be completely clean in this. Just trying to save face. I think I'm right so far. I've stayed quiet till all the pieces started falling into place in this catholic soap opera.

 

[isshinwhat]

As an aside, I really like the change in tone of the last 4 or so pages. It is good to see. May St. Michael protect us and all of Christ's Church.

 

[Michie]

In some ways it can. He was not a parish priest. Father Corapi has certain gifts that the founder of SOLT recognized and provided a loose structure to allow him to take best advantage of those gifts... Given that he is innocent of the charges leveled against him, if he abused that laxity (which would mostly be a matter of opinion) then that still does not change the validity of the structure he was under. I don't personally care that he had a motorcycle, large house, etc. If he donated to charity and wasn't under a vow of poverty, why begrudge him that...?

I feel like I'm in the protestant Church yet again hearing that.

 

[Davidnic]

As an aside, I really like the change in tone of the last 4 or so pages. It is good to see. May St. Michael protect us and all of Christ's Church.

Amen.

 

[Michie]

Corapi responds to Tuesday's statement from SOLT...

 

[isshinwhat]

Corapi responds to Tuesday's statement from SOLT...

That is so post #545, Michie.

 

[isshinwhat]

And I think part of that is if the founder of SOLT allowed him leeway and he abused it and it spiraled into prostitution and drug use...then it is possible many people are covering up here for mistakes. It is also possible that people do not want to believe this of their friend.

We do not know.

Eventually it will all come out. What is highlighted for me is that TV priests can develop a cult of personality around them that is unsettling at best. It becomes about them and not the message that is bigger than them.

One more thing to add, the lady making the claims is the prostitute who says they did drugs together. I would imagine that all of this would have been privileged information had Father Corapi not moved forward with a civil suit which made all of this public domain long before SOLT made their statement...

http://www.snapnetwork.org/PDF_files/RedactedCharge.pdf

If you were ashamed of the details getting out, why would you take it public and not keep it within canonical bounds? Just thinking out loud...

 

[Michie]

That is so post #545, Michie.

Quite easy to overlook given the size of the thread.

Gnarly pic though...

 

[LinuxUser]

We know that prostitutes are sooo trustworthy, like in strauss khan case

 

[Michie]

We know that prostitutes are sooo trustworthy, like in strauss khan case

As are those that solicit them.

 

[isshinwhat]

Quite easy to overlook given the size of the thread.

Gnarly pic though...

I try.

 

[isshinwhat]

As are those that solicit them.

And the priests who minister to them make easy targets...

 

[Michie]

And the priests who minister to them make easy targets...

Thats absolutely true. But as I said earlier... I'm think all things point to nobody's hands being clean in this mess.

I'm trying to work in *gag me with a spoon* here somewhere & having no luck.