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Update on Fr. John Corapi

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thereselittleflower

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Sort of like making reports to Protestants huh? I've been taken to court twice. It was a matter of giving to Caesar what was his. I prayed so hard that they would wish to reconcile out of court but they made their choice otherwise and I was the victim. Free will is a powerful thing.
Where they Catholics?
 
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Haven't seen him be his own Pope yet like those who denounce the Church. I have little doubt he really cares for the Church and Gods people. Who knows, with not authority of the Church behind him, it may be humbling. ;)

Well . I would think that the statment that he is the protector of the sheep of the entire world, when that is the Pope's position, would fall into that catagory.
 
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Well, don't let it cause you delusions of grandure now will ya. :p

I don't remember the rest of the post being there past the first sentence, if you edited it while I was responding, then that didn't catch the rest, I made another post asking if they were Catholics this happened with.
 
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Well you can't control what someone else does. . . did you attempt to get the case heard in the ecclesial system?

That was my point. Free will can choose contrary to Gods will. . . Yea, I received an annulment and moved on. It turns out, I had no sacrament after all. God had something else in store from there.
 
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I don't remember the rest of the post being there past the first sentence, if you edited it while I was responding, then that didn't catch the rest, I made another post asking if they were Catholics this happened with.

I saw that. Yea, I really do need to learn to read my posts and finish my thoughts before hitting tab tab tab enter. ;)
 
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Thereselittleflower said:
One does not just "leave" the priesthood. If one turns their back on their VOW, and considers it no longer worthy of their respect or adherence, and turns their back on the Divine Sanctifying Grace that empowered them to act in the persona of Christ, then something is very wrong. Does God use those who refuse to honor such a sacred vow and count such grace unworthy of their continued submission to God's will and power working throgh them to be a voice for truth?

You don't know the man's heart, that he "considers it no longer worthy of respect..." Kinda judgmental, yes?

Religious, such as Franciscans, Jesuits, SOLT, etc., take three vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. Their vow of poverty means that their use of property is subject to the will of their superiors. The vow of chastity obliges them to celibacy and a chaste life. Their vow of obedience submits their daily activities to the direction of their superiors.

Which of these do you allege he has broken? Again, kinda judgmental, which in itself is breaking one of the ten on your part. But that's ok, huh?

Your posts continually carp with allegations that you know nothing about, personally, yet you continue to impute your characterizations to him. I would hate to be in any court where you are a jurist!
 
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the more i think about this the more i have to reach the personal conclusion that fr corapi is less than forthcoming

he never appeared to me to be the kind of man who would run from a fight if truth was on his side

let us hope the euteneur will follow the example and leave the priesthood also

honestly, all we the sheeple ask of the clergy is to bring a little bit of honesty and and simple honor to the cloth- and what do we get ?

bozo the clown, that is what
 
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Virgil, you didn't respond as to why you continue to use the sock "Romanist?" I thought at first it was a joke, after we discussed it in another thread, where you said you had retired that account. Why would you want to cause confusion with our members?
 
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Virgil, you didn't respond as to why you continue to use the sock "Romanist?" I thought at first it was a joke, after we discussed it in another thread, where you said you had retired that account. Why would you want to cause confusion with our members?

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I tried to find EWTN's homily Friday from Fr. Wade Menezes, but they haven't posted it yet. My instinctive feeling was that he had been informed about Fr. Corapi, for much of his sermon seemed to give indirect innuendos. It was excellent, and if they post it soon, I hope to share it with everyone.

He basically said that persons can know the faith thoroughly, and comprehend all mysteries, but if they fail to grow in self-knowledge and increase in virtue, all the knowledge of God in the world will not be a benefit to them. I missed the first few minutes, so I'm not aware how he opened his homily.
 
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Fr. Corapi: "Soft you; a word or two before you go"...

It has never been my intention to comment much on l'affaire Corapi. We simply don't know enough about the facts surrounding the case to comment intelligently about it. However, one theme that has run through the various communiques issued by the Corapi camp has been about the ecclesial process looking into the matter.

Essentially, and variously, the process has been described as lacking transparency, as being fundamentally flawed, and even "of the devil" and so on. While I don't know the facts of the case, I do have some familiarity with the process, and want to comment on it briefly. I do so out of concern over many of Corapi's "fans" who are now vilifying and demonizing "the bishops" and their process.

Let me begin with full disclosure: I was a member of the USCCB's senior staff for more than five years (2002-2007), and a consultant to the USCCB before that and since. It is in this capacity that I offer some observations.

1) I readily acknowledge that no human legal process is without flaws, and I'm not suggesting here that the process being followed is flawless or perfect. On the other hand, it has good points as well.

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Fr. Corapi: "Soft you; a word or two before you go"...
 
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if you essentially volunteer to go into the priesthood, why is he not allowed to leave it?
If you essentially volunteer to go into marriage, why aren't you allowed to leave it? This isn't about volunteering a few hours for a community dinner. I think people are just worried that things may turn sour and he will bring a lot of people along for the ride. He brought a lot of people into the church and unfortunately if he were to start preaching against the church it's quit possible he would bring a lot of Catholics out of the church. I personally don't think he has any intentions of turning against the church. i think he's just rightfully upset over teh church's methods of dealing with such matters. I think he fully intends to continue in some sort of mission to save souls so to speak only as a sheepdog guards the flock rather than as a shepard guides the flock. He may be able to do a lot more in his new role than he could achieve as merely a preacher to Catholics. Too early for anyone to say for sure though.
-Matthew
 
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