Universe is not homogeneous as far as we know

[dad]

What failing?



You clearly do have time for "that sort of thing", you keep doing it.

No for bottle feeding kids that are big enough to pour their own milk. There are oodles of sites about bible proofs.

 

[dad]

Do you even know what parallax is?

The only distance we need to know is the distance between each side of the Earth's orbit.

Right and that takes what, class? ..Time! So you assume time exists in deep space on par with here.

"distances are not known for parallax!", if you knew what parallax actually was, you'd realise how stupid that sounds.

It ain't me about to feel the cold shower of awakening here.

 

[dad]

The distance to SN1987A is also not known by parallax. Only the speed of light matters. And if the speed of light had been faster in the past, then SN1987A would be even further away.

Absurd and short sighted. Time matters. The reality of the space way out there matters. Can you define space for us?

 

[Chalnoth]

Absurd and short sighted. Time matters. The reality of the space way out there matters. Can you define space for us?

Space is a spacelike three-dimensional cross section of the 3+1 dimensional space-time manifold (spacelike means that the inner products of vectors in the cross section are positive with a positive signature metric).

 

[dad]

Yea we do. We have the evidence on our side, bud.

No, produce it now if you do. Or all readers will see the fail.

 

[sandwiches]

No, produce it now if you do. Or all readers will see the fail.

It's been produced and verified. The onus to show evidence is on you, sport.

 

[dad]

Space is a three-dimensional cross section of the 3+1 dimensional space-time manifold.

Ha!! Thanks for that. Well, what would make anyone assume that only 3D is involved in the space far from the range of little man? Nothing. We do not know. Therefore we cannot wrap up time as earth knows it, in the fabric of deep space! Nor can we assume that earth constants apply, or laws.

Do you deny all things spiritual? Most of the world does not. Tell us, do you think that something spiritual is 3D?

 

[dad]

It's been produced and verified. The onus to show evidence is on you, sport.

No idea what you are talking about. Obviously not here, or anywhere you can cite. Fail.

 

[Chalnoth]

Ha!! Thanks for that. Well, what would make anyone assume that only 3D is involved in the space far from the range of little man? Nothing. We do not know. Therefore we cannot wrap up time as earth knows it, in the fabric of deep space! Nor can we assume that earth constants apply, or laws.

Well, you don't understand. But then, that is to be expected. That doesn't mean that others do not. Space is a pretty well-understood concept in physics.

Do you deny all things spiritual? Most of the world does not. Tell us, do you think that something spiritual is 3D?

Yes. 'Spiritual' is a meaningless word that has no application to anything that exists. And most of the world is deluded, attaching importance to terms that they feel have meaning but in reality do not. So what?

 

[sandwiches]

No idea what you are talking about. Obviously not here, or anywhere you can cite. Fail.

Just stating facts. We got reality on our side. What do you have? Your meaningless opinion and a book. Good luck with that.

 

[dad]

Well, you don't understand. But then, that is to be expected. That doesn't mean that others do not. Space is a pretty well-understood concept in physics.

"Space is the boundless, three-dimensional extent in which objects and events occur and have relative position and direction.[1] Physical space is often conceived in three linear dimensions, although modern physicists usually consider it, with time, to be part of the boundless four-dimensional continuum known as spacetime."
wiki

So by objects, of course it is meant physical in nature, no? If we do not know that, then we must consider that there may be spiritual 'objects' far out in space as well. If so, then they are NOT relative to earth in any way you imagined. Linear dimensions may apply in 'physical' space, but cannot be shown to apply in a different space than we know.

The way man has determined that space is in some sort of continuum, is by looking at our bit of space and mentally applying that everywhere.



No wonder in the same article, they say this

" Immanuel Kant said neither space nor time can be empirically perceived, they are elements of a systematic framework that humans use to structure all experiences. Kant referred to 'space' in his Critique of Pure Reason as being: a subjective 'pure a priori form of intuition',

Yes. 'Spiritual' is a meaningless word that has no application to anything that exists. And most of the world is deluded,...

Well, aren't you putting yourself above most men?? Is that a humble thing to do? Or informed?

attaching importance to terms that they feel have meaning but in reality do not. So what?

Try to be aware that you are in NO position to judge any spiritual encounters or experiences other men have. By virtue of what ghost busting machine would you claim authority to do so? Insane.

 

[dad]

Just stating facts. We got reality on our side. What do you have? Your meaningless opinion and a book. Good luck with that.

So you can't produce. OK. Guess we should be honored that you stopped by to pretend you had something, but just can't get it out?

 

[sandwiches]

So you can't produce. OK. Guess we should be honored that you stopped by to pretend you had something, but just can't get it out?

Hey bro, the day you can show evidence for your little pet theory is the day you deserve more than

 

[dad]

Hey bro, the day you can show evidence for your little pet theory is the day you deserve more than

Bible and history is evidence for a DSP. No evidence for a distant universe being the same has been presented. Do you know space is the same far away?

 

[Chalnoth]

So by objects, of course it is meant physical in nature, no? If we do not know that, then we must consider that there may be spiritual 'objects' far out in space as well.

No. Why would anybody think that?

 

[dad]

No. Why would anybody think that?

OK, so what sort of objects do you think space as you understand it can hold?

 

[Chalnoth]

OK, so what sort of objects do you think space as you understand it can hold?

Anything made of matter.

 

[dad]

Anything made of matter.

So you think space contains only matter. OK. By matter I take it you mean physical matter?

 

[Nathan Poe]

So you think space contains only matter. OK. By matter I take it you mean physical matter?

As opposed to spiritual matter, right dad?

 

[VehementisDominus]

As opposed to spiritual matter, right dad?

Sorry, I just want to add anti-matter to this.

But I guess anti-matter is physical matter, too... just... like a negative reel you get when you get photos developed.

I just think anti-matter is too important to leave out, whether it's "physical" or not.