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As if seperation of church & state was a concept of any currancy in the Holy Roman Empire.
The Church was the moral leading institution - but their arm in the political world didnt extend to the death sentencing carried out by the secular leaders - well, i shouldnt call them secular - in reality they were Catholic too.
But the Church maintained the moral teachings, and the human dignity of the ppl. They often didnt interfere in the states right to infringe the death penalty.
And FWIW - there was no separation of Church and state.
A concept that only dates from the French Revolution. And the Church pretty much existed coinciding with the world leaders from 400 AD - 1800 AD thereabouts.
There are things that disturb true history - movies are by far one the worst and yet distinct models we go by.
Books - written by any one who can type.
The Kingdom of God - a movie on the crusades is so grossly out of whack to the writings that have been kept - its not even funny.
And 'The hunchback of Notre Dame' is another one.
And just about every single movie made - outside the historical record keeping. On their defense - they dont have the historical record keeping - and on their fault - as though false witness bearing ever really mattered...?
The Church was restrained in matters of 'whom' the emperors, kings and what not could and could not 'execute'.
And the leaders did execute anyone going against the moral fabric of God's laws - instituted by the single Church that came directly from Christ.
The only 'practice' that is questionable is when a person was called to treason - they could be called a heretic - and a heretic could be called for treason.
Tyndale - became a heretic in his gross misappropriated translation of the Bible - which he used as a tool to attack the Church.
Remember - English translations did exist and so he isnt the father of translation - by rather a creator of lies...
Using the Bible as a weapon is really poor - especially since we know one ought not do such things...
No one should change a dot or a tittle.
So anyway - the state - didnt like what he did. EVEN those who were not pleased with the Pope and the Church found fault with him.
So - if one was a heretic - they committed treason - therefore the state had the prerogative to enforce their own execution.
The Church didnt really have a say. Tho we know many will accuse every Pope that ever existed thru out history of being at fault.
That - line of thot - comes down from the Revolt.
Which BTW - for many many years clergy and lay alike - were executed by the reformers from that time - and killed them for even existing - for i suspect nearly 100 years.
The land was taken from the Church - ppl killed including those serving the poor.
Now thats a tid bit no one likes to remember...
