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Two posters say their opinion is from God, yet disagree. Now what?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Saint Steven, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    What should readers conclude when two posters claim they got their position from God, yet they disagree?
    1) One of the posters is right and the other is wrong? Which one?
    2) Both of the posters are right? How can that be?
    3) Both of the posters are wrong? Entirely possible.

    I tend to go with number three.
    But not having to do with what was said, but the fact that they said it.
    If one claims to speak for God they are declaring themselves to be a prophet.
    You better be 100 percent sure of what you are saying if you go there.
     
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  2. Lazarus Short

    Lazarus Short Well-Known Member

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    The solution is to consult the Word of God, properly translated AND not read through any theological filters.
     
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  3. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Thanks. What do you mean by "properly translated"?
    And what about the two posters?
     
  4. 2PhiloVoid

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    There might be an option 4 in which both posters are partially right and wrong, being that they each can really only see the meaning pf Scripture through their own personal pair of "spiritual glasses." ;)
     
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  5. Lazarus Short

    Lazarus Short Well-Known Member

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    Ignore both until you dig out the Truth on your own. You see, I came up with a saying, "One man's proof texts are another man's cherry picking." Translations work the same way, as one will have a bias one way, and another version may lean another. Pay attention to the theology of the translators. That is why two people consult the Bible, do not bother to cite what translation they are using, and (surprise!) they disagree.
     
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  6. Oscarr

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    The only words that come directly from God are those quoted in the Bible.

    As part of our fellowship with God, we can receive input that we believe comes from God, and to make sure we search the Scriptures to confirm it. When I am discussing issues with the Lord, a Scripture will come to mind (I have never memorized Scripture) that will confirm that the direction I am thinking is consistent with God's view. Just this morning, as I was getting out of bed, I was thanking God for another day, my health, His blessings in my life, the love of my puddy cats, and the fact that I can pray and thank Him. I told Him that I hope He knows me, and that He does listen to my prayers. Immediately the Scripture came back: "The eye of the Lord is upon the righteous and His ears are open to their prayers." To me, that was His confirmation that He indeed was listening to me. Then the Revelation Scripture came to me: "The prayers of the saints are recorded and they rise up like incense before the Lord." Then another verse came to mind: "Truly our fellowship is with the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ."

    I think it is just great for the Lord to give me three Scriptures just to confirm that my prayers were going further than the ceiling.

    But when it comes to giving my views and opinions on CF, I would never take the Lord's Name in vain by asserting that my opinion is from God. In my mind that is manipulation and it is misusing God's authority to give force to what is just my personal opinion.

    Even when I give a prophetic word, I never say, "Thus says the Lord", because it is not up to me to assert that. It is up to the hearers to judge whether my prophetic word is from the Spirit or not. Often I will say, "If Jesus was here, He might say this..."

    If someone came to me and said, "I have a word for you from the Lord", I would say, "I will hear what you have to say, but I will be confirming with the Lord for myself." If the person gets his or her nose out of joint about that, I will then say, "Sorry, but you can keep your word to yourself, and I will wait to see what God says to me personally about the issue."

    My view is that if a person has a genuine word of knowledge for me, God would have had to have said it to me directly beforehand, and the word would be a confirmation of that. We need to be aware that people can use the prophetic to manipulate others, and to me, that is spiritual abuse and people like that should be avoided at all costs!
     
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  7. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    That's a great point. Thanks.
    Should they claim it as "God's truth"? (against a differing opinion)
     
  8. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Determine the context, and what the apostle is meaning. They will not contradict other scripture, so if that is the case, that is a red flag. Another possibility is a western reader is trying to understand a Hebrew writer. The westerner should study Semitic writing styles to understand a Hebrew writer.
     
  9. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Thanks, Oscarr.

    I edited your post down to the gem above. That really says it all right there. IMHO
     
  10. 2PhiloVoid

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    Probably not. It would likely be better if they simply say something to the effect that, "As far as they understand it, such-and-such passage of Scripture seems to mean thus-and-thus..." and then it would be up to each person to share 'why' they think their differing interpretation is the better (or the 'best') one.
     
  11. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    I agree. That's a great way to handle it. Thanks.
     
  12. Dave L

    Dave L Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I think scripture settles it. Of course everyone says this. And you still get a dozen different answers. But if your biblical roots run deep, you can discern the truth in a reliable manner.
     
  13. HTacianas

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    That's easy for me. Whoever holds the position that does not contradict the teachings of the Orthodox Church. I can believe the Church or I can believe any of thousands of opinions of laymen all in conflict with each other.
     
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  14. bcbsr

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    First it depends on what they mean by they got their position from God. Many say that, but what they mean is that they derived it from the Word of God, the Scriptures, which case they're talking about interpretation. But as to the truth of what God allegedly revealed to them, regardless of whether God revealed it to them, one could be right and the other wrong, or both wrong. But as for #2 the only way they could be both right is if they two views don't actually contradict each other.
     
  15. TuxAme

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    If one's opinion is at odds with what the first Christians believed and taught, it's safe to assume that their opinion is just that: their opinion, and opinions aren't divinely inspired.
     
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  16. SkyWriting

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    4)Both can be partially correct
    5)or 100% correct but incomplete.
     
  17. ItIsFinished!

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    I agree.
    Without hesitation I went with number three.
     
  18. JIMINZ

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    I would first like to know what it was they were disagreeing about.

    Some things just really don't matter very much, but people argue anyway.
     
  19. Saint Steven

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    Thanks. That's a unique perspective that I had not considered.
    However, I won't be changing churches any time soon. lol
     
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  20. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Thanks, that's good.
    And in some cases it's not a choice between two things.
    Both are in fact correct. Seeming contradictions.
    Which wasn't really part of what I was aiming at here, but...
     
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