Twenty years of two and a half degrees of warming

[sjastro]

You know, if a person is honest and admits that he or she does not understand something I have no problem with helping them to understand, politely and without judgment. But to write such a post indicates that the person will never own up to the mistakes that he makes.

I'll let you into a secret.
One of the motivating factors for the creation of a "Non Mainstream and Controversial Science" forum is to deal with opinion comments that are not based on mainstream science.
It came about with one particular individual flooding this forum with anti Big Bang theory nonsense and trying to pass it off as legitimate science.
This thread should be end up in this forum for the same reasons.

 

[greatcloudlives]

en.m.wikipedi.org plant decay causes carbon isotopes to be in the atmosphere.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh my.

 

[greatcloudlives]

Never the less man caused CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels is scrubbed out of the atmosphere the same way CO2 produced by nature is.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Never the less man caused CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels is scrubbed out of the atmosphere the same way CO2 produced by nature is.

Yes, some does go out. But we still know that we are responsible for the increase. You do not know what an isotope is. You should have admitted it.

Let me explain. There are three parts that make up an atom, protons, neutrons and electrons. The number of protons determines what element the atom is. If the number of electrons equal the number of protons it is electrically neutral. An atom may have more or fewer electrons and those are ions. But that does not really matter for now. Neutrons are neutral. They have about the same mass as a proton. The number of neutrons can vary in an atom. Those are isotopes. Most carbon is Carbon 12, 6 protons and 6 neutrons. You may have heard of C14, it is used for carbon dating. Six protons and 8 neutrons. It is radioactive and none will be found in fossil fuels. Then there is the isotope C13. Six protons and 7 neutrons. It is almost identical to C12 chemically, but plants are a little less likely to pick it up. As a result fossil fuels are C13 depleted. By measuring the various isotopes over the years we can see if fossil fuels were the cause of an increase or not. What we see is a continual drop in C12 concentrations as the C13 depleted fossil fuels are burned.

 

[greatcloudlives]

As I understand CO2 carries the heat it absorbs for four years. When it's realised how much less heat is left in the CO2 molecules. According to the law of therodynamics there should be a decrease in the warming.. Answer me that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As I understand CO2 carries the heat it absorbs for four years. When it's realised how much less heat is left in the CO2 molecules. According to the law of therodynamics there should be a decrease in the warming.. Answer me that.

No, you understand wrong. It merely absorbs heat that was heading out into space and reradiates it in a random direction. The net effect is a slowing of the rate that heat leaves the Earth.

 

[greatcloudlives]

Over billions of years, the geological record shows that there is no coralation between CO2 levels and temperatures. There have been periods when CO2 concentrations were 15 times higher than now, yet temperatures were identical to or even colder than today. The premise that CO2 is causing catastrophic global warming is a myth.

 

[HitchSlap]

Over billions of years, the geological record shows that there is no coralation between CO2 levels and temperatures. There have been periods when CO2 concentrations were 15 times higher than now, yet temperatures were identical to or even colder than today. The premise that CO2 is causing catastrophic global warming is a myth.

source?

 

[greatcloudlives]

Watts Up With That? go to Dr Vincent Gray coralation between CO2 and temperature.

 

[greatcloudlives]

Look at the graph on this webpage.

Dr Vincent Gray on historical CO2 levels wattsupwiththat

 

[Subduction Zone]

Over billions of years, the geological record shows that there is no coralation between CO2 levels and temperatures. There have been periods when CO2 concentrations were 15 times higher than now, yet temperatures were identical to or even colder than today. The premise that CO2 is causing catastrophic global warming is a myth.

You are quite wrong. Here is a challenge again. Quote and link appropriate sources. If you can support your claim I will admit that I am wrong and apologize. And if you cannot and then admit it I will support my claim, and of course you will have to state that you failed to support your claim.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Watts Up With That? go to Dr Vincent Gray coralation between CO2 and temperature.

Not a valid source. You need to find a real scientific source. Not a tainted source that shares your beliefs. Find a neutral science based source.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Watts Up With That? go to Dr Vincent Gray coralation between CO2 and temperature.

Not a valid source. You need to find a real scientific source. Not a tainted source that shares your beliefs. Find a neutral science based source.

 

[greatcloudlives]

https//wattsupwiththat.com.dr-vin

Go here for the graph of CO2 and temperature over billions of years.

 

[Subduction Zone]

https//wattsupwiththat.com.dr-vin

Go here for the graph of CO2 and temperature over billions of years.

Not a valid source and a broken link to boot.

We may have a poe here.

 

[lordjeff]

wrong

If you have seen all the diagrams, the physics just is too much about movie tricks. They can determine the number of shots but not who fired the fatal shot. Today most people agree that it was a combo of the military-industrial complex via the mob. They did not like the young Kennedy, nor his hint to pull out of Vietnam.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you have seen all the diagrams, the physics just is too much about movie tricks. They can determine the number of shots but not who fired the fatal shot. Today most people agree that it was a combo of the military-industrial complex via the mob. They did not like the young Kennedy, nor his hint to pull out of Vietnam.

Correction most conspiracy theorists believe that. Rational people, not so much.

 

[lordjeff]

According to the critics, Mann et all neglected the 1930s-40s & the millenial period & there were some notable events in this period. All very convenient.

 

[greatcloudlives]

Dr Vincent Gray historical carbon dioxide levels

This graphs is very interesting