Trying to round up an Atheist for Formal Debate on I.D.

[FrenchyBearpaw]

No. But some will only believe after they have died, and this quite unfortunately for them is the only means by which they will believe the words of God.

Not sure how to break this to you, but once you're dead, you won't believe anything.

 

[pjnlsn]

No. But some will only believe after they have died, and this quite unfortunately for them is the only means by which they will believe the words of God.

And yet, like has been said so many times before, and regardless of how 'unfortunate' it is, these ideas are all unproven in the same way that the claim of a deity is unproven.

 

[quilbilly]

Not sure how to break this to you, but once you're dead, you won't believe anything.

Oh oh. A positive statement

Not believing is one thing but to tell another poster they are wrong is another

What evidence do you have for this? I know you wouldn't try to make your opinion fact. Would you?







EQUALity is for everyone

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Oh oh. A positive statement

Not believing is one thing but to tell another poster they are wrong is another

What evidence do you have for this? I know you wouldn't try to make your opinion fact. Would you?







EQUALity is for everyone

Alive = brain waves
Dead = no brain waves

 

[Loudmouth]

No. But some will only believe after they have died, and this quite unfortunately for them is the only means by which they will believe the words of God.

Based on what evidence?

 

[quilbilly]

Alive = brain waves
Dead = no brain waves

Let me fix that for ya

Alive -- brain waves
Dead -- no known brain waves

Sorry friend. I don't KNOW and neither do you






EQUALity is for everyone

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Let me fix that for ya

Alive -- brain waves
Dead -- no known brain waves

Sorry friend. I don't KNOW and neither do you






EQUALity is for everyone

And after the body has decomposed, and the brain tissue has turned to dust? Do you suppose they're still believing things, or do their thoughts become part of the great ether?

Have you ever been contacted by someone who has died?

As much as someone can know a thing, you can assert that humans don't "believe" anything after they're dead and gone.

 

[Elioenai26]

Not sure how to break this to you, but once you're dead, you won't believe anything.

I should have used the word "know".

It is far more appropriate.

Thank you for correcting me.

 

[Elioenai26]

Based on what evidence?

God's testimony.

He cannot lie and He has said that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This will happen for many only after they die and stand before Him.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

I should have used the word "know".

It is far more appropriate.

Thank you for correcting me.

As in, you don't "know" what you're talking about?

You're welcome.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

God's testimony.

He cannot lie and He has said that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This will happen for many only after they die and stand before Him.

This is a statement. What we're asking for is actual evidence.

(you do know what empirical evidence is, right?)

 

[quilbilly]

God's testimony.

He cannot lie and He has said that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This will happen for many only after they die and stand before Him.

And this too is belief.

"God cannot". Whenever those two words are in a statement together the statement is unbiblical. God can do anything

 

[pjnlsn]

And this too is belief.

"God cannot". Whenever those two words are in a statement together the statement is unbiblical. God can do anything

God's testimony.

He cannot lie and He has said that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This will happen for many only after they die and stand before Him.

"And yet, like has been said so many times before, these ideas are all unproven in the same way that the claim [that a deity exists at all] is unproven."

 

[Elioenai26]

And this too is belief.

"God cannot". Whenever those two words are in a statement together the statement is unbiblical. God can do anything

No He cannot.

 

[Elioenai26]

"And yet, like has been said so many times before, these ideas are all unproven in the same way that the claim [that a deity exists at all] is unproven."

Jesus has proven He was who He said He was when He rose from the dead.

 

[Elioenai26]

This is a statement. What we're asking for is actual evidence.

(you do know what empirical evidence is, right?)

Do you believe in the view expressed in the following proposition:

If a statement cannot be empirically verified, then we should disregard the statement.

 

[quilbilly]

Do you believe in the view expressed in the following proposition:

If a statement cannot be empirically verified, then we should disregard the statement.

WARNING. Gotcha moment ahead. WARNING







EQUALity is for everyone

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Do you believe in the view expressed in the following proposition:

If a statement cannot be empirically verified, then we should disregard the statement.

Generally speaking, yes. You know what they say though, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Hume's maxim, Occam's razor, etc.

Let me ask you this: Do you tend to believe everything anyone tells you?

 

[pjnlsn]

Jesus has proven He was who He said He was when He rose from the dead.

This, or anything else in the Bible, is not necessarily true.

 

[Davian]

Jesus has proven He was who He said He was when He rose from the dead.

Bible stories are not proof of anything.