Trump's shutdown: Navajo Nation residents trapped in their homes as federal snowplows stop running

[Nithavela]

Your statement reminded me of this news commentary by Lawrence O'Donnell. I shared this video in another thread earlier today because Native Americans seems to be a popular thread subject today.

Well, thats what you get when you have no power and can do nothing but complain. If your tribes were tripple A companies, the us government would treat you far better.

Why aren't your tribes tripple A companies? Why are they so dependent on outside support although they call themselves sovereign nations?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Our president thinks he is a king and I doubt he cares about that treaty. He thinks he can “shut down the border” to force people to do what he wants, that says it all.

Trump doesn't care about any of the treaties that were signed with the tribal nations.

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[Shiloh Raven]

What treaty would that be, exactly? If you're talking about the 1836 treaty that the tribal website points to, the only permanent provision seems to be "Three hundred dollars per annum for vaccine matter, medicines, and the services of physicians, to be continued while the Indians remain on their reservations."

As long as those Indians don't go "off the Reservation!" I will say that it is a positive improvement in America that Indians are no longer being shot and killed these days for simply leaving the Rez.

 

[Sparagmos]

Trump doesn't care about any of the treaties that were signed with the tribal nations.

A Standing Rock on the Border?

A border tribe, and the wall that will divide it

Border Wall Threatens Native American Sovereignty

Trump's Border Wall Could Carve Path Through Native American Lands

Native American Tribe to DHS: Keep your dumb border wall off our land

American Indians fear U.S.-Mexico border wall will destroy ancient culture

Native American Tribe on U.S.-Mexico Border Blocks Trump's National Guard Troops From Its Lands

Lay one brick of the border wall and it will be the last of the Indian Wars, native Americans warn Trump

He has a long history of clashing with Native Americans even before he was elected.

Trump Can't Stop Insulting Native Americans

Trump challenges Native Americans’ historical standing

Trump's disrespect for Native Americans is nothing new

Trump advisors aim to privatize oil-rich Indian reservations

Trump, in a Federal Lawsuit, Seeks to Block Indian Casinos

Donald Trump’s long history of clashes with Native Americans

Trump’s Direct Assault on Native American Tribal Sovereignty

Trump is breaking the federal government's promises to Native Americans

Many Native Americans, Citing History, Angry Over Trump Immigration Policy

Donald Trump and Federal Indian Policy: ‘They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me’

Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe: President Trump Lies About Working With Tribes On DAPL

Wow, i hadn’t even heard about that angle on “the wall.” Thanks for posting.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Why aren't your tribes tripple A companies? Why are they so dependent on outside support although they call themselves sovereign nations?

I don't know, but I wish they weren't. I honestly hate it. It's one of the reasons why I won't accept any money from the government or the tribes my biological parents and their family are from.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Wow, i hadn’t even heard about that angle on “the wall.” Thanks for posting.

You're welcome.

 

[Radagast]

As long as those Indians don't go "off the Reservation!" I will say that it is a positive improvement in America that Indians are no longer being shot and killed these days for simply leaving the Rez.

That doesn't seem to be an answer to my question: What "treaty" are you talking about?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

That doesn't seem to be an answer to my question: What "treaty" are you talking about?

I meant to say treaties and then I listed and linked several in my proceeding post.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Well, thats what you get when you have no power and can do nothing but complain. If your tribes were tripple A companies, the us government would treat you far better.

Why aren't your tribes tripple A companies? Why are they so dependent on outside support although they call themselves sovereign nations?

Are those serious questions?

 

[Goonie]

As long as those Indians don't go "off the Reservation!" I will say that it is a positive improvement in America that Indians are no longer being shot and killed these days for simply leaving the Rez.

Well given Trumps vocal support of the Argentinian president, who has today placed the Amazon rainforest under the governance of the ministry of agriculture to be deforested and turned into farmland. The Amazon tribes will be dispossessed of their land, and there culture deliberately destroyed.

 

[Nithavela]

Are those serious questions?

Is this a serious question?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yes.

 

[Nithavela]

Yes.

One of them is. I'll leave it to you to puzzle out which one.

 

[Radagast]

I meant to say treaties and then I listed and linked several in my proceeding post.

I couldn't see any actual treaties in your long list of links.

 

[Ana the Ist]

One of them is. I'll leave it to you to puzzle out which one.

Is it that difficult to just give me a straight answer?

 

[Nithavela]

No. I just don't want to.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I couldn't see any actual treaties in your long list of links.

That is simply incorrect. Here are the treaties listed in the article I linked to 'here' in my previous post.

Treaty with the Ottawa etc. May 28 1836. 7 Stat 401.

Treaty with the Chippewa. July 29 1837. 7 Stat 536.

Treaty with the Chippewa. Oct 4 1842. 7 Stat 591.

Treaty with the Chippewa. Sept 30 1854. 10 Stat 1109.

And here are the treaties I specifically listed and linked explaining the treaties in further detail.

Treaty of Fort Industry (1805) (Transcript)

1855 Land Cession Treaty with the Ojibwe

1863 & 1864: Treaties with the Chippewa Red Lake & Pembina Bands

1867 Treaty with the Chippewa of the Mississippi

Unfortunately, the READ THE TREATY link under More Information (on the right side of the page) doesn't help much. However, a simple Google search for the specific treaty does help.

For example: Treaty with The Chippewa of The Mississippi (March 19, 1867)

 

[Radagast]

That is simply incorrect. Here are the treaties listed in the article I linked to 'here' in my previous post.

My mistake. I looked at the wrong post.

Treaty with the Ottawa etc. May 28 1836. 7 Stat 401.

As I said earlier, the only permanent federal assistance provision in that treaty is "Three hundred dollars per annum for vaccine matter, medicines, and the services of physicians, to be continued while the Indians remain on their reservations."

Treaty with the Chippewa. July 29 1837. 7 Stat 536.

Treaty with the Chippewa. Oct 4 1842. 7 Stat 591.

Treaty with the Chippewa. Sept 30 1854. 10 Stat 1109.

And here are the treaties I specifically listed and linked explaining the treaties in further detail.

Treaty of Fort Industry (1805) (Transcript)

1855 Land Cession Treaty with the Ojibwe

1863 & 1864: Treaties with the Chippewa Red Lake & Pembina Bands

1867 Treaty with the Chippewa of the Mississippi

Unfortunately, the READ THE TREATY link under More Information (on the right side of the page) doesn't help much. However, a simple Google search for the specific treaty does help.

For example: Treaty with The Chippewa of The Mississippi (March 19, 1867)

Do those treaties contain any permanent federal assistance provisions? I can't see any, on a quick glance.

 

[com7fy8]

Are you at all familiar with the hundreds of treaties that the U.S. government has systematically violated and broke since its very own inception?

Oh please, tell me about the current government of the USA and their treatment of treaties.

Our president thinks he is a king and I doubt he cares about that treaty.

Thank you all for taking the time to comment. I do not know details of each treaty, but I am informed that ones have been broken, whatever the federal government was obligated to do, and whatever breaks have not been corrected. But I don't know the details.

And I am aware that certain Americans have taken lands from sovereign nations and those lands have not been returned. And if some payment or whatever was made, it was forced on the people who were made to leave land for the use of certain Americans.

So, if God lets Hispanics exploit American lands, this could be God's justice working in mysterious ways, for all I know.

 

[All Englands Skies]

Well given Trumps vocal support of the Argentinian president, who has today placed the Amazon rainforest under the governance of the ministry of agriculture to be deforested and turned into farmland. The Amazon tribes will be dispossessed of their land, and there culture deliberately destroyed.

I did not think the Amazon rainforest stretched as far south as Argentina.