Cuomo and Trump: Who Can Tell the Difference?

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l will never, never vote for a Democrat after this current disaster in our country.

I agree with you .. 500K Americans died in one year .. what a needless death .. how can we re-elect that kind of President.
 
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I don't know if Trump is the most evil person in the world. I haven't met them all. But we had to endure Trump's 'American Carnage' inaugural address followed by 1460 days of non-stop Big Lie. He acted more like a thug from the MAFIA than a President. But one thing I'll say about Donald trump, he made Spiro Agnew look good.

You know what is the most frustrating and gloomiest things about Trump presidency ? it’s not Trump or his provocative language or character or even his policy. The saddest things about past 5 years is how evangelical Christians supported him and stick with him past five years and till today they are with him.
 
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You know what is the most frustrating and gloomiest things about Trump presidency ? it’s not Trump or his provocative language or character or even his policy. The saddest things about past 5 years is how evangelical Christians supported him and stick with him past five years and till today they are with him.
why were you expecting anything better from them? i sure wasn't. they have lived down to my expectations time and time again.
 
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Cuomo is too skilled a politician to think he had any chance of remaining in office. It was a forgone conclusion that once the New York Assembly finished the ongoing investigations he was going to be impeached and removed. Resigning, even in disgrace, is better then that.
 
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One glaring difference between Cuomo and trump. Cuomo recognized he is detrimental to the party and country and had the humility to resign! Trump is still screaming somewhere about how life is so unfair to him.
 
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why were you expecting anything better from them? i sure wasn't. they have lived down to my expectations time and time again.

Well , as a Born-Again Christian myself, I know the teaching, so I was hopping at some point they will wake up and have different behavior.
 
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One glaring difference between Cuomo and trump. Cuomo recognized he is detrimental to the party and country and had the humility to resign! Trump is still screaming somewhere about how life is so unfair to him.

Problem with trump and his supporter is that they live in “alternative reality” .
 
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One glaring difference between Cuomo and trump. Cuomo recognized he is detrimental to the party and country and had the humility to resign! Trump is still screaming somewhere about how life is so unfair to him.

I wouldn't attribute any sort of humility to him...

Problem with trump and his supporter is that they live in “alternative reality” .

^that^ is probably more like it. Nobody was willing to believe Cuomo's lies. A bunch of affluent, well-educated Dem-voting wokesters are much less likely to buy the sort of nakedly dishonest, self-serving garbage that Trump peddles to his uncritical fanbase. The current Democratic coalition doesn't appear to have the inclinations towards developing a cult of personality the way Republicans have for Trump. Obama was the only one who came anywhere close to that, and it wasn't close.
 
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I wouldn't attribute any sort of humility to him...



^that^ is probably more like it. Nobody was willing to believe Cuomo's lies. A bunch of affluent, well-educated Dem-voting wokesters are much less likely to buy the sort of nakedly dishonest, self-serving garbage that Trump peddles to his uncritical fanbase. The current Democratic coalition doesn't appear to have the inclinations towards developing a cult of personality the way Republicans have for Trump. Obama was the only one who came anywhere close to that, and it wasn't close.

Isn’t it interesting to see “ tree hugging socialist lefty , gay loving homosexual , latte drinking china loving not- real-American, America hater liberal elite” don’t tolerate sexual immorality while “ Jesus loving born again Christian” thinks “12 time sexual accuser”, aka “grabbing by ……” the protector of Christianity.
 
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Isn’t it interesting to see “ tree hugging socialist lefty , gay loving homosexual , latte drinking china loving not- real-American, America hater liberal elite” don’t tolerate sexual immorality while “ Jesus loving born again Christian” thinks “12 time sexual accuser”, aka “grabbing by ……” the protector of Christianity.

Yep... Some of the podcasts I listen to have recently been circling around the notion that contemporary American evangelicalism tends to foster an affinity for narcissists. Part of this is the movement's history of glorifying celebrity culture (in the context of celebrity pastors), part of it is the sermon-centric structure of Sunday church services, part of it is our individualism and lack of denominational oversight over individual churches, and part of it is the incentives towards rapid numerical growth.

As such, it shouldn't be too surprising that a group of folks who are used to sitting in a chair and having a single, overly-confident, virtually-unaccountable voice tell them how to think and act every week were accepting of the same sort of thing coming from a politician.

OTOH, while there are certainly plenty of narcissists on the left, I'm struggling to think of any institutions on the left that overtly conditions folks to excuse that behavior and elevate those narcissists to positions of power and authority.
 
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One glaring difference between Cuomo and trump. Cuomo recognized he is detrimental to the party and country and had the humility to resign! Trump is still screaming somewhere about how life is so unfair to him.

As detrimental as Donald was to his party, too many of them still haven't realized it yet.

Followers are bad enough, but they pick their role models poorly.
 
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The difference between Cuomo and Trump is that when the report came out about Cuomo, his fellow party member and leader quickly condemned him, including President, Speaker of the house and most of NY democrat and asked him to resigned. On the other hand in Trump case, so called evangelical who claim to be Christian, always chant about “ family value” embraced Trump and voted to elect trump Twice. And even today they can’t get enough of Trump.

"Family values" are, and have always been, a dog whistle to stand in for opposition to gay rights. Anything else is just "boys being boys" and being a "man after God's own heart".

Trump is a feature, not a bug, of Evangelicalism in the US. Look up Dr. Kristin du Mez's recent work on the subject. She's a religious history professor at Calvin College.
 
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Yep... Some of the podcasts I listen to have recently been circling around the notion that contemporary American evangelicalism tends to foster an affinity for narcissists. Part of this is the movement's history of glorifying celebrity culture (in the context of celebrity pastors), part of it is the sermon-centric structure of Sunday church services, part of it is our individualism and lack of denominational oversight over individual churches, and part of it is the incentives towards rapid numerical growth.

As such, it shouldn't be too surprising that a group of folks who are used to sitting in a chair and having a single, overly-confident, virtually-unaccountable voice tell them how to think and act every week were accepting of the same sort of thing coming from a politician.

OTOH, while there are certainly plenty of narcissists on the left, I'm struggling to think of any institutions on the left that overtly conditions folks to excuse that behavior and elevate those narcissists to positions of power and authority.

Don't confuse authoritarianism and narcissism. Narcissism is a broader feature of American society in general. The Woodstock generation and the advent of "self-esteem" pop psychology (which was actually the rebranding of Randian pseudophilosophy) account for that.
 
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Don't confuse authoritarianism and narcissism. Narcissism is a broader feature of American society in general. The Woodstock generation and the advent of "self-esteem" pop psychology (which was actually the rebranding of Randian pseudophilosophy) account for that.

It’s both.
 
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