Trump's Line in the Sand -- Poll

Trump's Line in the Sand

  • Will be successful

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Will remind us later of Obama's Line in the Sand

    Votes: 10 76.9%

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25th amendment is out there if it comes to that.

The military is not going to be the lead in that effort.

The ethic in the American military against mutiny is extremely strong. They are very deeply indoctrinated against it. Generals will resign or retire first (and that ought to be a signal, as when all the generals of the "class of Vietnam" retired prior to the invasion of Iraq).

They are aware that "military coup" is like virginity lost. Even if civilian control is later regained, when generals have done it once, everyone is aware they might do it again.
 
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25th amendment is out there if it comes to that.

I think that's a direct quote from the new DNC byline

Did the line in the sand work well The chubby dictator hey sure step back.
 
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Ah, so if one sees a dictator making threats, then you think it is a good thing to tell that dictator if he does not stop making threats, you will nuke his country with fire and fury worse than the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

If the "chubby dictator" makes another threat, do you recommend we nuke North Korea?
 
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I'm sure that's the point.

If the line is vague, Trump can say North Korea hasn't crossed it.

In reality, Trump isn't going to unleash any 'fire and fury' unless N. Korea does something stupid like a direct act of aggression, something any of his predecessors would've attacked over. To me, it just comes off as an attempt to sound tough, without actually doing anything different. He's just organ-grinding.
Ah, so in a thread designed to say that Trump will stand by his threats, we learn we are all supposed to take heart that Trump doesn't actually mean it when he makes threats. He will not nuke North Korea as he said he would if Jung-On keeps on threatening.

Strange country this is, when we all our told to relax, the President doesn't actually mean it when he makes nuclear threats. That is supposed to make me sleep better?
 
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Ah, so if one sees a dictator making threats, then you think it is a good thing to tell that dictator if he does not stop making threats, you will nuke his country with fire and fury worse than the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

If the "chubby dictator" makes another threat, do you recommend we nuke North Korea?

Is he silent or still threatening? Did he stand down or were the rockets fired towards Guam?

Did it work?
 
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I think that's a direct quote from the new DNC byline

Did the line in the sand work well The chubby dictator hey sure step back.

Trump make threat and draw line in sand. Kim Jong Un laugh and cross line. Trump make threat and draw line in sand. Kim Jong Un laugh and cross line. Trump make threat and draw line in sand. Kim Jong Un laugh and cross line.

Everyone in world knows is empty threat. I watch RISK game with children and see better plans.
 
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Is he silent or still threatening? Did he stand down or were the rockets fired towards Guam?

Did it work?

Not work. Trump draw line Kim cross line. Trump draw line Kim cross line.

We lucky Kim Jong Un been more stable and mature of two leaders. Not want to keep hoping stay true. Need real plan. Not line in sand. That something from child RISK game.
 
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He jumped the line by withdrawing?
Trump say "Make threat and Fire and Fury". Kim Jong Un make threat, no fire and fury. Trump say "Make threat and Fire and Fury". Kim Jong Un make threat, no fire and fury.

Everyone in world see empty threat. Kim Jong Un behaves more stable and mature of two and not attack. Is dangerous hope that stay true.

Line in sand is from RISK children game. Is first strategy everyone learn. Children which play RISK learn better strategy quick or never win.
 
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You can try to spin that any way you want but the situation is that he stood down and did not follow through with his threat so Trumps line in the sand was successful.

That is plain as day. And everyone in the world can see that.
 
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You can try to spin that any way you want but the situation is that he stood down and did not follow through with his threat so Trumps line in the sand was successful.

That is plain as day. And everyone in the world can see that.
Think you not understand how world works. Never doubt that NK get bombed if send bombs. Nobody in world ever think if NK send bombs USA president do nothing. Not Bush not Obama not Reagan not Clinton not Carter. Is ridiculous.

Trump said "Make Threats then will see Fire and Fury". Kim Jong Un make threats and nothing happen. Never have played RISK? Is fun game that teach strategy. You try. Line in Sand is very beginner strategy. See often when children play.
 
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Trump's Line in the Sand drawn in Korea


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As I recall North Korea has already stepped over it. Trump likes shooting his mouth off, he was trying to intimidate North Korea while the sanctions start to work their slow poison. This is a marathon not a sprint, Trump was just trying to stress them out. I kind of like his strategy but it's not without it's hazards or consequences.
 
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You can try to spin that any way you want but the situation is that he stood down and did not follow through with his threat so Trumps line in the sand was successful.

That is plain as day. And everyone in the world can see that.

Actually, ROK president Moon did the backing down.
 
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And so we conclude Trump's line in the sand was not successful.

After Trump's line in the sand, North Korea launched a missile over Japan for the first time: A look at North Korean missile tests that crossed over Japan

After Trump's line in the sand, North Korea detonated it's most powerful test nuke: North Korea tests most powerful nuclear bomb yet - CNN

After Trump's line in the sand North Korea continued to make threats: North Korea Threat Comes After Trump Vows ‘Fire and Fury’

I think we can all agree that Trump's line in the sand was not successful, yes? Those who voted that it would be successful were wrong, yes?
 
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