Trump to strip protections from Tongass National Forest

[KarateCowboy]

Native American tribal identity is based on belonging to a community, not race. The actor Lou Diamond Philips, for instance, is ethnically Filipino but he belongs to a tribe of the Lakota also.

Motte and Bailey.

 

[FireDragon76]

Motte and Bailey.

Not a real fallacy:

Motte-and-bailey fallacy - Wikipedia

The doctrine is also opposed to the principle of charity in discourse, since it assumes the worst motivations for a given argument.

My objection should stand. Native American tribal identity is not necessarily based on genetics or blood quantuum, or other so-called "scientific", racialist criteria.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Not a real fallacy:

Motte-and-bailey fallacy - Wikipedia

Cool.

I didn't say it's a fallacy.

It's a rhetorical tactic.

The doctrine is also opposed to the principle of charity in discourse, since it assumes the worst motivations for a given argument.

Unfortunately, it's proven to be a reliable assumption.

My objection should stand. Native American tribal identity is not necessarily based on genetics or blood quantuum, or other so-called "scientific", racialist criteria.

TFW Filipinos are Indigenous to the Americas.

In that case everyone is indigenous, if only they say so.

In which case, there is no point in claiming it harms indigenous people to begin with, since there's no reliable distinction to which they are appealing.

 

[FireDragon76]

TFW Filipinos are Indigenous to the Americas.

The Philipine islands are in Asia, not the US. So I'm not sure what your point is here.

In that case everyone is indigenous, if only they say so.

Tribal identity is determined by the actual tribes, so no, not everyone is a member of an Indian tribe in the US.

In which case, there is no point in claiming it harms indigenous people to begin with, since there's no reliable distinction to which they are appealing.

They are appealing to their sovereignty as nations in determining tribal affiliation.