I was responding to your claim that there was a "lack of evidence" by demonstrating the existence of it. I'm not commenting on the type of evidence that exists, nor on how serious the crimes cited are. I was simply refuting the "lack" of it.
Ok...well here's your weekly dictionary explanation.
Don't feel bad, we've been down this road before. I don't mind explaining new words to you...that's how you learn!
to be deficient or missing; to be short or have need of something; to stand in need of : suffer from the absence or deficiency of… See the full definition
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In short...a deficiency of something. When you only have a little bit of toothpaste, you lack toothpaste.
Not to be confused with absence.
So I hope that helps. Saying they lacked evidence is accurate. Saying that any evidence was absent is incorrect.
Nah, I've known about Trump for a while now. I can even remember when his brain was transplanted into Bill the Cat.
I'm sure this is hilarious to those who know what you're talking about.
Yeah, that happens with a lot of rich criminals.
And those in DC.
I'll tell you one thing it doesn't look like: someone indicted on over 90 counts with tons of evidence behind those indictments.
You haven't provided a whole lot of evidence for anything.
Yeah, of course, it's never been about the documents. That case may end up with a judgment stayed until it goes to a higher court.
Nope, the state of Florida thinks so, which is why they assessed it as they did.
For tax purposes lol not as the value of the property.
It appears you and the judge have the same affliction.
Since Mar a Lago is a private club, not a residence, it's tax value is based on the club's operating costs, not it's resale value.
Tax value...not sale value.
You've said it twice now. Do you get it yet?
But hey, if Trump wants to claim his club is worth a billion dollars, maybe he should be paying tax on that value instead?
Why would he? It's not the tax value.
When you pay taxes on your home every year (you know, real estate taxes) are they the sale price of your home?
The case isn't about real estate values though, it's about the fraud involved in the way those values were used. Higher values when seeking loans, lower when paying taxes. That's fraud.
Yeah, I'm certain the public is outraged that some big bank got taken for a few extra bucks.
Let's see...it appears even the banks agree with Trump and think the lawyer is an idiot.
His testimony Tuesday reinforced Trump’s defense argument that the lender was not defrauded and bank personnel conducted a due diligence process that did not rely on Trump’s personal financial statements the judge ruled fraudulent before the trial started. Trump has also argued that the bank was happy to have his business.
If the supposed victims of this fraud don't agree that fraud happened and aren't complaining about being defrauded.... What are the chances this is a valid fraud case and not a crooked judge trying to improve their career by wrongly prosecuting a political candidate?
Again, if this case doesn't look like persecution, you're either still mad he got elected or completely unable to comprehend how odd this case is.
Or do you think it's normal for the DA to file fraud charges....instead of the victims, because banks don't have lawyers, and for the judge to decide a 700 million dollar property was worth 28 million because he doesn't understand what a tax assessment is? Now the supposed victims of fraud are telling the judge they're wrong and were never defrauded?
That looks like a normal thing to you? For a president who is likely running for reelection?
I can understand if you think the other cases are legitimate. That case is clearly a joke and blatant political persecution.
That's why witnesses are called, to offer testimony relevant to the case. A judge listens to it, and renders a verdict.
That's how the legal system works.
Except you seem to think the verdict is rendered immediately and then they call witnesses to testify....for, no reason at all, before sentencing....because you don't actually know how this works.
I've never been to a civil fraud trial...but I have been to trial....and every single time the witnesses were called before the verdict, but hey....I could be wrong.
If the evidence is as clear, and as plentiful as you think it is, I wonder why the articles of impeachment haven't been passed yet. But I'm sure there's a really good reason for that.
It's a lot of evidence bud....much of which was hidden until this year. The FBI sat on evidence of corruption for 3 years at least and lied about testimony they had about Biden's corruption. Then they lied about the extent of their involvement in covering for Biden in the 2016 election. Given that the Republicans have had less than 2 years and the entire federal government obstructing them....they're moving at light speed compared to the DOJ on Trump. Why do you think the DOJ has waited till 2024 to start the classified docs trial? Was there a lot of evidence needed to prove Trump had possession of the docs after they recovered them from him lol?
You're complaining about Trump’s lawyers stalling for time when the DOJ did the same thing.
Let me know when it happens, okay?
If they're still gathering evidence, they must not have enough yet to impeach. Hmmm...
Is there a point you're trying to make?
Again, somehow despite not being trained investigators....they've gathered enough evidence to begin proceed in less than 2 years.
Trump has been under investigation for 7 and he's only recently started to face trial. The entire DOJ is either more inept than some congressmen or Biden is so corrupt the evidence is abundant.
Not every elected official is as vindictive as that, though.
I'm sorry...are you one of those people that think your elected officials are mostly good with the occasional bad egg?
I saw someone say something to that effect about Biden months ago....my jaw dropped. I didn't think we had anyone naive enough to think these people weren't corrupt. These are lawyers, making public servant salaries of a couple hundred thousand a year at most. They retire as multimillionaires and if they're president, they're done working, for life.
Of defamation. How young are you? Do you remember the OJ trial or are you too young? Did you know that after he was found innocent of murder, he was sued in a civil trial for the same murder and found guilty? They found him liable for "wrongful death" of his ex wife and lover and he had to pay like 20-30 million for that.
Now, plenty of people believe he's guilty of murder....but nobody claims the court found him guilty of murder because of the civil trial. That would be stupid.
And I'm aware that some people are young...perhaps not so bright....and don't understand the difference between civil and criminal cases. The fact is though....despite what the news says...Trump was never charged with nor found guilty of sexual assault.
And yet, that was the verdict of the court. I notice you're not disputing that he did the thing, only splitting hairs on what kind of court the guilty verdict came from.
You say splitting hairs as if there's no difference between a civil trial and criminal trial. It's not splitting hairs, it's a world of difference....you can't even be charged with sexual assault in a civil trial. You definitely can't be found guilty.
Hey, at least the democrats try to govern,
When? They've bungled inflation, the economy in general, basically all foreign policy, got us wrapped up in funding a losing war with a highly corrupt nation, failed on the border crisis, failed on the Afghanistan withdrawal, and now....they've split the democrats because they thought they could use the loons on their side to get elected. They didn't realize they would actually support Palestine. Forget about the never ending crime wave of both violent and property crime.
Other than hide Biden's crimes to the best of their ability, and ensure corporate profits, what's the good part?
which is more than the GOP can say.
Well....
Trump ended the war in Afghanistan, created historic peace accords with Israel in the middle east, didn't start any new wars, tried to solve the migration crisis despite everyone standing in his way...and with the stay in Mexico program, he managed to slow the problem.
That's not the most impressive list but everyone literally was wealthier under Trump....since the dollar had more value and prices were lower.
Oh, and he zapped one of our enemies best generals and they were too scared to move on us. Nobody seems scared of Joe.
Of course, the problem is that the Democratic party is pretty inefficient and not very good at doing stuff.
Yeah it turns out that bringing together these various identity groups causes problems when in power....without a common enemy, they remember they don't share any values or priorities. Even worse, once they realize they can't get anything out of electing democrats because of that pesky constitution preventing favoritism....they defect to the independent and republican sides. I'm curious if there will be anyone other than black people who hate white people and the US, and white people who hate white people and the US, and people who think they are cats after 15 years.
Well, unless you believe Trump and his supporters...they seem to think the democrats are highly organized and exceptionally efficent, to a Bond villain level, and able to effortlessly hide every trace of their actions.
No....no. lol who believes that? Just because new evidence of crimes pops up every week doesn't make anyone a mastermind....it makes them pretty bad at crime.
Sorry, which frauds are the democrats protecting again?
You want an example or list?
Hey, if you have evidence that either Clinton or Biden refused to return any classified documents when asked to, or tried to hide them when subpoenaed, feel free to indict them.
You're kidding right? Not only did Hillary 100% have illegal documents, but she destroyed the server before the FBI could collect it. She knowingly mishandled highly classified top secret documents....and destroyed evidence.
They didn't decide not to prosecute because she wasn't guilty. They decided not to prosecute because she went away and she and her husband are both connected. They have dirt on more people than I can imagine. Throwing someone like that in jail is dangerous. There's no telling who she might start leaking info to if she is bitter. The same goes for her husband. The same goes for Trump. Don't be surprised if he gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist....there's real danger to anything less than a life sentence, and even then, might as well have him killed just to be safe.
He made claims of election fraud without ever producing one bit of evidence for it. Then, or since
So has Hillary. So has that large black woman from Georgia (Adams?). It's not a crime.
Well, some of his co-conspirators have already pled guilty and will offer evidence, so progress is being made in that case.
Indeed, we'll have to see what evidence they have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....you saw what you saw, and I saw what I saw.
I thought I saw a vicious riot on January 6th. I didn't see a serious attempt to prevent an election.
Hey, I never said you can't vote for whomever you choose. I only said why I'm not voting for the guy.
I get it.
And I'm not alone. Let's remember, in every presidential election Trump ran in, he got less votes than his opponent. The first time, he managed to get enough to swing the electoral votes, but not the second.
Yeah but the second was run on the idea that things would return to normal. We're still talking about Trump, the economy is objectively worse, we're funding a war we can't win and one that isn't popular on the left, we began building the wall lol because the illegal problem couldn't be ignored, and we still have mass protests....except it's the left chasing around jews instead of cops.
Biden appears no less of a criminal than Trump....and has the IQ of a bowl of oatmeal. Yet the democrats keep lying about him, his crimes, and the economy....as if no one noticed everything costs more.
Running on "I'm not Trump" may be enough if people implicitly believe that means things will improve. Now they know it means they will become worse. What exactly is the message Biden is running on now? I've seen his ads where he threatens to "finish" the job he started....a terrifying prospect.
If you have evidence that the government lacks, you probably should petition them. Or you can choose not to, your call.
Nope...based on the evidence that they've provided he looks pretty guilty. Even the banks are saying certain transactions look like money laundering and that's an independent assessment.
But if you feel as strongly as you seem to that Biden should be impeached, or indicted, then it seems incumbent upon you to do what you can. Otherwise, you lack credibility when you complain about it.
Statements like this make it seem like you have no idea how the government works, at all. If that's the case....why discuss politics?
You sure seem to be working too hard to defend Trump for me to believe you're not defending him.
He may be guilty. I haven't seen the evidence...you haven't either.
The whole thing is odd. We all know Presidents commit crimes...there's no president in our lifetimes who isn't at least a war criminal. Between the bogus fraud case and the classified docs case...it's hard to understand the rationale of these trials.
Perhaps they couldn't find a convincing enemy to rally against so they're playing the same old tune.
But hey, I'll take you at your word. You're not a Trump supporter. You just continue to defend him and his actions because....um, well,....reasons I guess.
Objectivity....and knowledge. I haven't been working for the federal government so long that I don't remember what I thought it was like before.
-- A2SG, but, I have to say, you're walking more than a little duck-like there, dude....
I've never voted. I argued for Hillary in 2016. I don't have anything to prove simply because I don't believe everything the media says. One would think most people wouldn't after all they've gotten wrong.
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