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There are, at least, seventy two (72) personal characteristics or attributes, listed in scripture for the Holy Spirit and He is a person the same as the Father and the Son are, within the Trinity.
Names of the Spirit

1. God -Acts 5:3-4, Acts 28:25-27, Heb 3:7-11, Heb 10:15-17
2. Lord - 2 Cor. 3:18
3. Spirit - 1 Cor. 2:10
4. Spirit of God - 1 Cor. 3:16
5. Spirit of Truth - John 15:26
6. Eternal Spirit - Heb. 9:14

Attributes of (9)

7. Eternal -Heb. 9:14
8. Omnipotent - Luke 1:35
9. Omnipresent - Psalm 139:710
10. Distinct Will from the father and the son– 1 Cor. 12:11
11.
Loves - Rom. 15:30
12. Speaks - Acts 8:29; Acts 13:2
13. Distinct Mind from the father and the son – Rom 8:27
14. Distinct Self from the father and the son – John 16:13
15.
Alive – John 14:17

Symbols of (3)

16. Dove - Mat 3:15
17. Wind - John 3:5
18. Fire - Acts 2:3

Sins Against (6)

19. Blasphemy - Mat 12:31
20. Resist (Unbelief) - Acts 7:51
21. Insult - Heb 10:29
22. Lied to - Acts 5:3
23. Grieved - Eph 4:30
24. Quench - 1 Thes 5:19

Power in Christ's Life (6)

25. Conceived of - Mat 1:18-20
26. Baptism - Mat 3:15
27. Led by - Luke 4:1
28. Filled with Power - Luke 4:14,18
29. Witness of Jesus - John 15:26
30. Raised Jesus - Rom 8:11

The Works of the Holy Spirit (42)

1 Access to God - Eph 2:18
2 Anoints for Service - Luke 4:18
3 Assures - Rom. 8:15-16; Gal 4:6
4 Authors Scripture - 2 Pet 1:20-21
5 Baptizes - John 1:32-34; 1 Cor 12:13-14
6 Believers Born of - John 3:3-6
7 Calls and Commissions - Acts 13:24; Acts 20:28
8 Cleanses - 2 Thes 3:13; 1 Pet. 1:2
9 Comforts - Act 9:31
10 Communion with believers – 2 Cor 13:14
11 Convicts of sin - John 16:9,14
12 Counsels - John 14:16
13 Creates - Gen 1:2; Job 33:4
14 Empowers - 1 Thes 1:5
15 Empowers Believers - Luke 24:49
16 Fellowship with believers – Phil 2:1
17 Fills - Acts 2:4; Acts 4:29-31; Acts 5:18-20; Acts 9:17
18 Forbids action - Acts 16:6
19 Gives gifts - 1 Cor. 12:8-11
20 Glorifies Christ - John 16:14
21 Guides in truth - John 16:13
22 Helps our weakness - Rom 8:26
23 Indwells believers - Rom 8:9-14; Gal 4:6
24 Inspires prayer - Eph 6:18; Jude 20
25 Intercedes -Rom 8:26
26 Interprets Scripture - 1 Cor 2:1,14; Eph 1:17
27 Leads - Rom 8:14
28 Liberates - Rom 8:2
29 Molds Character - Gal 5:22-23
30 Produces fruit - Gal 5:22-23
31 Raises from the dead - Rom 8:11
32 Regenerates - Titus 3:5
33 Reveals – Luk 2:26
34 Sanctifies - Rom. 15:16
35 Seals - Eph 1:13-14; Eph 4:30
36 Sends - Acts 13:4
37 Sent - Gal 4:6; 1 Pet 1:12
38 Strengthens - Eph 3:16; Acts 1:8; 2:4; 1 Cor 2:4
39 Testifies of Jesus - John 15:26
40 Victory over flesh - Rom. 8:2-4; Gal 4:6
41 Warns – Acts 20:23
42 Worship helper - Phi 3:3

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It was not untill fourth century did the idea that the holy spirit was a person get into Christianity. Justin Martyr of the second century taught that the holy spirit was an ‘influence or mode of operation of the Deity’;

Another copy/paste from the slave masters at WTBS which does not address the seventy to (72) personal characteristics described above supported by ninety one (91) scriptures. And they are wrong about the early church fathers.
Justin Martyr - Dialogues with Trypho

For when the rulers of heaven saw Him of uncomely and dishonored appearance, and inglorious, not recognizing Him, they inquired, ‘Who is this King of glory?’ And the Holy Spirit, either from the person of His Father, or from His own person, answers them, ‘The Lord of hosts, He is this King of glory.’​
The Holy Spirit is just a force that God uses, and is not a person. "Stephen, a man full of faith and holy spirit," he was not possessed, Jehovah conciders that as not natural. That is what Satan's angels did.
If you think the Holy Spirit is a being, then this scriptures contradict with that.

Nothing you have posted contradicts anything! And nothing you have posted has addressed the seventy two (72) personal characteristics described above, supported by ninety one (91) scriptures.
 
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Since you argue with virtually every tenet of Christianity why do you have a Christian icon? I don't mind anyone having anti-Bible, anti-Christ views but they should keep them to themself, especially on a Christian forum.

Since you and most orthodox christians disagree with almost every teaching of Jesus, why do you call him the christ?
 
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Since you and most orthodox christians disagree with almost every teaching of Jesus, why do you call him the christ?

I don't, you want to try proving that I do? OTOH I can quote your own posts right here to support what I said. And OBTW I have a few posts back there that you have ignored.
 
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it'sme;
Actually God does care.

let's see...

People that die in this world will get a resurrection , with a chance of ever lasting life.

So in a world (and a body) that can feel pain and misery God allows people to suffer, while in heaven where there is no pain or suffering, god allows people to remain forever... and why would anyone want to be in heaven? What exactly would be joyous, fulfilling or meaningful about it?


Man basicly said to God through their actions of disobedience , that man wanted to rule himself, God has given man that opportunity , we can see how this worked out. God cares, but most men don't.

And this is because some body thousands of years ago decided he wanted to rule himself???? So God is visiting his judgment on the children of the children of the children of someone who made a bad decision...
Tell me again how much God cares? When is this everlasting life supposed to kick in? When God is good and ready?
Let compare how much man and god care...
Mankind will sacrifice for other beings... money, time, even their own lives...

God has sacrificed himself (he really only pretended to sacrifice himself), but immediately returned undamaged... (God can neither feel nor experience pain, fear, hopelessness, nor want)

Mankind will dedicate their life (medicine, education, counseling) to improve the lives of others... including, but not limited to, social welfare, minimum wage laws, courts of law, and volunteer soup kitchens and clothing drives.

God "listens" to prayer. At least, that is the claim. How can an all powerful God listen to the prayers of millions and ignore them? How many chidren starved to death yesterday? How many parents killed themselves over their hopelessness? How many died of curable diseases? how many Christians looked at their bank account statements yesterday and found more money than some others ever own in a life time?

Either God doesn't care, or God is powerless.
 
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let's see...



So in a world (and a body) that can feel pain and misery God allows people to suffer, while in heaven where there is no pain or suffering, god allows people to remain forever... and why would anyone want to be in heaven? What exactly would be joyous, fulfilling or meaningful about it?
This is a miss conception , from false religion. The earth was made for man, he was designed to life as flesh on the earth. False religions talk about living in heaven.( there are a small number that go to heaven to help rule the earth, but for them that is their desire) God started man in the garden of Eden . ( a paradise) The goal was for man to make the whole earth a paradise. Adam and Eve at first wore no clothing, so the conditions on the earth ideal. Pain is also very beneficial, for life, it is part of our feel of touch, and lets us know when things are too hot etc. Man does not have immortality. ( this is also a false doctrine) People will not be resurrected to heaven( except that small number) People are going to be resurrected to the earth, and restore the paradise lost.



And this is because some body thousands of years ago decided he wanted to rule himself???? So God is visiting his judgment on the children of the children of the children of someone who made a bad decision...
Tell me again how much God cares? When is this everlasting life supposed to kick in? When God is good and ready?
What you do as a parent, affects your children. If you make a bad decision that affects your family.If you choose to drive fast on a slippery road and you get into an accident , the out come of that affects everyone in your family.
God set the time and how he is going to restore mankind and the earth back to that paradise, right at the time, that man decided to disobey God. This restoration answers this question, once and for all time. Man has tried to the full, ruling himself, and we see the results. God is going to have to step in the save the earth and man.


Let compare how much man and god care...
Mankind will sacrifice for other beings... money, time, even their own lives...

God has sacrificed himself (he really only pretended to sacrifice himself), but immediately returned undamaged... (God can neither feel nor experience pain, fear, hopelessness, nor want)
Mankind will dedicate their life (medicine, education, counseling) to improve the lives of others... including, but not limited to, social welfare, minimum wage laws, courts of law, and volunteer soup kitchens and clothing drives.
This is also from false religion. God did not sacrifice himself. He sent his Son to buy back the perfect life that was lost to mankind from Adam, to prove to Satan that a man will follow God. He did that. God sacrificed his own Son to do that, even though he was perfectly innocent. He cares!

God "listens" to prayer. At least, that is the claim. How can an all powerful God listen to the prayers of millions and ignore them? How many chidren starved to death yesterday? How many parents killed themselves over their hopelessness? How many died of curable diseases? how many Christians looked at their bank account statements yesterday and found more money than some others ever own in a life time?

Either God doesn't care, or God is powerless.
As for starving people, that is mans doing.When man rules man this is what you get. This is a result of Satan( he is the ruler of the world not God)and man, deciding to rebel against God. People are lost in this life becasue Satan is the ruler of this world. He controls governments and religions and all other things. Money is man's invention, some do OK but many do not, that is total man's doing. One other thing all the people alive today could fit in the State of Texas, with a couple of square yards around them. If is not over population, it is greed, wars, corruption, pollution ,and man wanting to dominate other men, that is the cause of this.
As for God being powerless, It is not that he is powerless, it is that Satan is the ruler and man went with Satan, so God gave us, a length of time so that once and for all time , this question would be answered. All people that have died have that chance of a resurrection. That goes for children and sick ones also. The bible says that the wages of sin is death. ( there is no place of torment, or punishment, that also is from false religion) So once you have died you have paid the price. So God will resurrect all that have died. ( there are some exceptions)
 
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I don't, you want to try proving that I do? OTOH I can quote your own posts right here to support what I said. And OBTW I have a few posts back there that you have ignored.

I ignore the vast majority of your posts because you rarely say anything other than to misquote scripture.
 
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This is a miss conception , from false religion...

So God will resurrect all that have died. ( there are some exceptions)

You need to stop making fun of fundamentalists...

'As for God being powerless, It is not that he is powerless, it is that Satan is the ruler " Ruler indicates the person with the powre...
"So once you have died you have paid the price. So God will resurrect all that have died. ( there are some exceptions) " WHY EXCEPTIONS... is the price paid or not?

your patchwork theology, fill in the blank stuff is very funny
 
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I ignore the vast majority of your posts because you rarely say anything other than to misquote scripture.

I hear that a lot from people who have created their own private belief systems. They accuse me, as you have, of misquoting scripture, but as you have failed to do, do not cite any evidence or examples of your accusation. I read both Biblical languages and have for a number of years, I have a personal library which includes BDB, BAGD, TDNT, TWOT, Robertson's, Wallace, and Smyth's grammars, Louw-Nida, and many more resources. I doubt very much that you could prove I misquoted anything. Please feel free to ignore anything you s choose, that will not deter me from addressing the great number of errors in your posts.
 
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The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also reports: “The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.”—Vol. XIV, p. 296. JW publication
This scriptures you brought up in your list.

(Acts 5:3-4) But Peter said: “An‧a‧ni′as, why has Satan emboldened you to play false to the holy spirit and to hold back secretly some of the price of the field? 4 As long as it remained with you did it not remain yours, and after it was sold did it not continue in your control? Why was it that you purposed such a deed as this in your heart? You have played false, not to men, but to God.”

Luke 11: 13 Therefore, if YOU, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to YOUR children, how much more so will the Father in heaven give holy spirit to those asking him!”
This is not talking about a person, it is talking about god spirit, all of Gods attributes

Psalms 51:11 Do not throw me away from before your face;
And your holy spirit O do not take away from me.
Here again this scripture is not talking about a person.

Romans 7:9 However, YOU are in harmony, not with the flesh, but with the spirit, if God’s spirit truly dwells in YOU. But if anyone does not have Christ’s spirit, this one does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in union with YOU, the body indeed is dead on account of sin, but the spirit is life on account of righteousness. 11 If, now, the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in YOU, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also make YOUR mortal bodies alive through his spirit that resides in YOU.

Here again it is not talking about a person, it is talking about the spirit of god, his attributes. What God is all about. Gods people are not possessed by spirit creatures but God spirit, his attributes.
The bible interprets the bible for us. If you are getting contradictions then let the reader use discernment, correct your understanding.
 
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You need to stop making fun of fundamentalists...

'As for God being powerless, It is not that he is powerless, it is that Satan is the ruler " Ruler indicates the person with the powre...
"So once you have died you have paid the price. So God will resurrect all that have died. ( there are some exceptions) " WHY EXCEPTIONS... is the price paid or not?

your patchwork theology, fill in the blank stuff is very funny
You said God doesn't care, but the bible tells us he does. Also you blame God, but you didn't blame the cause and that is Satan and man. If you want to blame some one blame them. God has made a way out of this mess, for those who want it. But as bible history shows that few do want it.
 
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The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also reports: “The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.”—Vol. XIV, p. 296. JW publication

I see you are now admitting that most of your posts are just copy/pastes from your library CD, but you are still not properly identifying them. You need to identify the precise publication you are copying from e.g. Watchtower, Insight, etc., and date, and article title. As with virtually all WTBS "quotes" only a small part of the article is quoted trying to make it say something it does not say. Here is the complete paragraph from which only one sentence is quoted.
The Spirit of God as a Person. Although the NT concepts of the spirit of God are largely a continuation of those of the OT, in the NT there is a gradual revelation that the Spirit of God’s a Person. In the Synoptic Gospels. The majority of NT texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. When a quasi-personal activity is ascribed to God's spirit, e.g., speaking, hindering, desiring, dwelling (Acts 8.29; 16.7; Rom 8.9), one is not justified in concluding immediately that in these passages God's spirit is regarded as a Person; the same expressions are used also in regard to rhetorically personified things or abstract ideas (see Rom 8.6; 7,17). Thus, the context of the phrase "blasphemy against the spirit" (Mt 12.31; cf. Mt 12.28; Lk 11.20), shows that reference is being made to the power of God. The only passage in the Synoptic Gospels that clearly speaks of the person of the Holy Spirit is the Trinitarian formula in Mt 28.19. In the Acts of the Apostles. In Acts, the use of the words "Holy Spirit," with or without an article, is rich and abundant. However, again, it is difficult to demonstrate a personality from the texts. The Spirit continues the work of Jesus and is the link between the earthly and heavenly Jesus. The same Spirit that descended upon Jesus at His baptism is given to the Apostles "in parted tongues as of fire" (Acts 2.1-4) and is transmitted beyond these original witnesses to all members of the Church by means of chosen leaders such as Paul, Barnabas, Stephen, and Philip. Reception of this power by the faithful is the principal testimony to the truth of the apostolic preaching. The Spirit is manifested by "tongues," prophecy, and other unusual phenomena. Emphasis is placed on the role of the Spirit in the spread of the Church (Acts 1.8). The statement in Acts 15.28, "the Holy Spirit and we have decided," alone seems to imply full personality. In the Pauline Epistles. St. Paul uses the word [spirit]= 146 times. Sometimes it means man's natural spirit, but more often it signifies the divine sanctifying power (2 Cor 3.17-18; Gal 4.6; Phil 1.19). However, the Trinitarian formulas employed by St. Paul (e.g., 2 Cor 13.13), indicate a real personality. In the theology of St. John. St. John's theology of the Holy Spirit is very rich in meaning. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth (Jn 14.17; 15.26; 16.13; cf. I Jn 4.6; 5.6), and "another helper," the "Paraclete" (Jn 14.16). The Spirit is "another" helper because, after Christ's Ascension, He takes Christ's place in assisting the disciples, in teaching them all that Jesus Himself had not yet told them, in revealing the future to them, in recalling to their minds that which Jesus had taught them, in giving testimony concerning Jesus, and in glorifying Him (14.26; 16.12-16; 15.26; 1 Jn 2.27; 5.6). So clearly does St. John see in the Spirit a person who takes Christ's place in the Church, that he uses a masculine pronoun (Greek) in reference to the Spirit even though [spirit] is neuter in gender ( 16.8, 13-16). Consequently, it is evident that St. John thought of the Holy Spirit as a Person, who is distinct from the Father and the Son, and who, with the glorified Son and the Father, is present and active in the faithful (14.16; 15.26; 16.7). (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1965, Spirit of God, Vol 13, p574-576)​

This scriptures you brought up in your list.

(Acts 5:3-4)
Luke 11: 13

This is not talking about a person, it is talking about god spirit, all of Gods attributes

Psalms 51:11
Here again this scripture is not talking about a person.

Romans 7:9

Here again it is not talking about a person, it is talking about the spirit of god, his attributes. What God is all about. Gods people are not possessed by spirit creatures but God spirit, his attributes.
The bible interprets the bible for us. If you are getting contradictions then let the reader use discernment, correct your understanding.

You have not interpreted anything by anything. All you have done is copy/paste some deliberately false information from the WTBS, post a few verses and you still have not addressed a single verse I posted.
 
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"So once you have died you have paid the price. So God will resurrect all that have died. ( there are some exceptions) " WHY EXCEPTIONS... is the price paid or not?
There are a few reasons for exceptions. One is that people that come to an accurate knowledge of God but then turn their back on him, in a deliberate with, by teaching or actions that are not in accordance of Gods standards will not be ressurrected.This includes the Pharisees in Jesus day( they killed God's Son,) and their counter parts today, that should be teaching the people about God, but teach the commands of men instead.These ones are leaders of the false teachings in Christendom. ( the modern day Pharisees) Also ones that deliberately persecuted Gods people, in imprisonment and killing. It is not up to man to say who exactly who each person is, but we are given information about who God does not accept. But the average person who dies in this system where they know who God is or not, will be resurrected. The wages sin pays is death.
 
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You have not interpreted anything by anything. All you have done is copy/paste some deliberately false information from the WTBS, post a few verses and you still have not addressed a single verse I posted.
I have used scriptures that tell you what the Holy Spirit is.
That is what the bibles says. The bible does the interpretation. If you don't want to accept that, that of course is your decision. But it does mean there are parts of the bible that you will never get the understanding of.
The most basic teaching in the bible is about who God is and Jesus is. this is the first thing all should know. The rest of the bible depends on understanding the most basic truths. In bible history mainstream religions have not been correct. Even when God choose the nation of Israel, he was always sending prophets to straighten them out, and then God finally cast them off. It is no different today. The bible was written about people of that time but it is for the people of our time. There are parallels all through the bible, for people today.
 
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I hear that a lot from people who have created their own private belief systems. They accuse me, as you have, of misquoting scripture, but as you have failed to do, do not cite any evidence or examples of your accusation. I read both Biblical languages and have for a number of years, I have a personal library which includes BDB, BAGD, TDNT, TWOT, Robertson's, Wallace, and Smyth's grammars, Louw-Nida, and many more resources. I doubt very much that you could prove I misquoted anything. Please feel free to ignore anything you s choose, that will not deter me from addressing the great number of errors in your posts.

Isaiah 7:14... you quote from the XLL instead of the Hebrew... WHY? Intentionally misleading people or ignorance? Matthew apparently quoted the XLL.. why? Intentionally misleading people or ignorant of Hebrew?

ALMAH. not Bethulah
 
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You said God doesn't care, but the bible tells us he does. Also you blame God, but you didn't blame the cause and that is Satan and man. If you want to blame some one blame them. God has made a way out of this mess, for those who want it. But as bible history shows that few do want it.

Satan? God's assistant, you mean. There is no Satan, only a satan. The adversary... and that adversary is our doubts, fears and faithlessness.

God made the mess. God is god after all.
 
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Isaiah 7:14... you quote from the XLL instead of the Hebrew... WHY? Intentionally misleading people or ignorance? Matthew apparently quoted the XLL.. why? Intentionally misleading people or ignorant of Hebrew?

ALMAH. not Bethulah

The correct abbreviation is LXX, is XLL ignorance or deliberately intentionally misleading the people? According to the evidence I have produced the LXX is a accurate translation at Isaiah 7:14. And I have looked around for any evidence you have cited and found none just your own assumptions/presuppositions.
Keil-Delitszch Hebrew Commentary - Moreover, the condition of pregnancy, which is here designated by the participial adjective הָרָה (cf., 2Sa_11:5), was not an already existing one in this instance, but (as in all probability also in Jdg_13:5, cf., Jdg_13:4) something future, as well as the act of bearing, since hinnēh is always used by Isaiah to introduce a future occurrence. This use of hinneh in Isaiah is a sufficient answer to Gesenius, Knobel, and others, who understand hâ‛almâh as referring to the young wife of the prophet himself, who was at that very time with child. But it is altogether improbable that the wife of the prophet himself should be intended. For if it were to her that he referred, he could hardly have expressed himself in a more ambiguous and unintelligible manner; and we cannot see why he should not much rather have said אִשְׁתִּי or הַנְּבִיאָה, to say nothing of the fact that there is no further allusion made to any son of the prophet of that name, and that a sign of this kind founded upon the prophet's own family affairs would have been one of a very precarious nature.

And the meaning and use of the word ‛almâh are also at variance with this. For whilst bethulâh (from bâtthal, related to bâdal, to separate, sejungere) signifies a maiden living in seclusion in her parents' house and still a long way from matrimony, ‛almâh (from ‛âlam, related to Châlam, and possibly also to אָלַם, to be strong, full of vigour, or arrived at the age of puberty) is applied to one fully mature, and approaching the time of her marriage.
(Note: On the development of the meanings of ‛âlam and Châlam, see Ges. Thes., and my Psychol. p. 282 (see also the commentary on Job_39:4). According to Jerome, alma was Punic also. In Arabic and Aramaean the diminutive form guleime, ‛alleimtah, was the favourite one, but in Syriac ‛alīmto (the ripened).)​
The two terms could both be applied to persons who were betrothed, and even to such as were married (Joe_2:16; Pro_30:19 : see Hitzig on these passages). It is also admitted that the idea of spotless virginity was not necessarily connected with ‛almâh (as in Gen_24:43, cf., Gen_24:16), since there are passages - such, for example, as Son_6:8 - where it can hardly be distinguished from the Arabic surrīje; and a person who had a very young-looking wife might be said to have an ‛almah for his wife. But it is inconceivable that in a well-considered style, and one of religious earnestness, a woman who had been long married, like the prophet's own wife, could be called hâ‛almâh without any reserve.
(Note: A young and newly-married wife might be called Callâh (as in Homer νύμφη = nubilis and nupta; Eng. bride); and even in Homer a married woman, if young, is sometimes called κουριδίη ἄλοχος, but neither κούρη nor νεῆνις.)​
H5959 עלמה ‛almâh
BDB Definition:
1) virgin, young woman
1a) of marriageable age
1b) maid or newly married
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H5958
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1630b​
 
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The correct abbreviation is LXX, is XLL ignorance or deliberately intentionally the people?
Despite whatever evidence you may have provided, the texts disagree with you... Almah is the correct word in the Hebrew texts. The Greek translation in the XLL or LXX or CDD... was that intentional???? ... is parthenos, which means a chaste woman... the equivalent of the Hebrew word Bethulah, which Isaiah used several times in his book, but not in chapter 7.

It doesn't pay to use Strong as a definer of Hebrew words since his New Testament bias is evident in all of his translations. HE HAS to define Almah as virgin because Matthew did. The Hebrews who spoke Hebrew understood their word to be the feminine form of Elem... which means a young lad of the age of puberty. It has no sexual experience connected with it at all. EVER. Period. Only since since the Gospels were written did it have that "virgin" meaning added to it.

Please do try and be more accurate, honest and reasonable.
 
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You said God doesn't care, but the bible tells us he does. Also you blame God, but you didn't blame the cause and that is Satan and man. If you want to blame some one blame them. God has made a way out of this mess, for those who want it. But as bible history shows that few do want it.
Satan? God's assistant, you mean. There is no Satan, only a satan. The adversary... and that adversary is our doubts, fears and faithlessness.

God made the mess. God is god after all.
Actually God could have made everything robots. Not able to fail, predetermined life. That is not what he wanted or do we. He gave us free will. We get to choose, So did the angels. Satan is a real being, that could move to the vicinity of God or the earth. Satan is also the driving force behind the world see see now. That is why the earth is the way it is.
Satan is cast to the vicinity of the earth and the bible say 'woe for the earth because Satan has been cast down to it.' This is a short period of time, and then things will change once and for all.
Satan's only purpose is the mislead people. He has done a good job. A lot of people don't even believe that he exists.
 
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Satan is a real being,

let's start with fallacy, first.

Show me where the satan is ever referred to as a real being. Chronicles? Job? Tempting the Son of God in the wilderness? In the first case he and God are the same being. In the second, they are in concert in testing Job, in the third, they apparently are having conversations... Jesus and satan... pure good and pure evil existing conversing and having a good ol' time together.

Do you really think Jesus had a serious conversation with satan and WAS really tempted? (If he wasn't tempted, as God, of course, wouldn't and couldn't be tempted by his own creation, then the story is meaningless. If he was tempted, then he obviously was not God's son, part if the Holy Trinity)

The serpent is not satan. Lucifer is not satan. The dragon is not satan. Hades is satan. however, PETER is satan. Hmmmm... the only "being" ever identified as satan is Peter.
 
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