Tribulation physics

[Jamin4422]

Actually, we're a little fuzzy on exactly when he died.

The people who gave us the calender we currently use did not seem to get it right. But it looks like Bishop Ussher got the dates right. He has ALL the dates for when EVERYONE in the Bible was born. At least the year, including Adam and Eve. All of his dates seem to be accurate.

 

[Jamin4422]

Wait, did you just quote the bible at the end?

Yes, do you want a quick lesson on covenant theology. God comes to us with a covenant. If we do our part of the deal then you can be sure that God will do His part.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The people who gave us the calender we currently use did not seem to get it right.

Indeed, they were off by at least a few years.

But it looks like Bishop Ussher got the dates right. He has ALL the dates for when EVERYONE in the Bible was born. At least the year, including Adam and Eve. All of his dates seem to be accurate.

based on what?

Ussher dates the Flood at 2349-2348 BC and the Exodus at 1491 BC -- neither of which square away with Egyptian history.

 

[mzungu]

Ussher dates the Flood at 2349-2348 BC and the Exodus at 1491 BC -- neither of which square away with Egyptian history.

Not to mention Minoan, Babylonian, Chinese, and Indian history as well!

 

[dad]

Not to mention Minoan, Babylonian, Chinese, and Indian history as well!

They all square perfectly actually. I kid you not.

 

[dad]

Indeed, they were off by at least a few years.

based on what?

Ussher dates the Flood at 2349-2348 BC and the Exodus at 1491 BC -- neither of which square away with Egyptian history.

Yes, your dates are wrong and unsupportable...religion.

 

[TLK Valentine]

They all square perfectly actually. I kid you not.

No, dad -- you kid us constantly.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes, your dates are wrong and unsupportable...religion.

Not my dates, dad -- James Ussher's.

Please, tell me how wrong and unsupportable his dates are.

(psst -- nobody tell dad what he's doing wrong here -- I want to see how long before he figures it out himself...)

 

[dad]

No, dad -- you kid us constantly.

No. I kid you not. Egypt was likely post flood.

 

[dad]

Not my dates, dad -- James Ussher's.

Please, tell me how wrong and unsupportable his dates are.

So when did Usher date Egypt and how?

(psst -- nobody tell dad what he's doing wrong here -- I want to see how long before he figures it out himself...)

Relax. Nobody can.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So when did Usher date Egypt and how?

I am not privy to the details of Ussher's love life -- did he write any tell-all memoirs?

 

[TLK Valentine]

No. I kid you not. Egypt was likely post flood.

Nice claim -- when you finally get around to supporting it, you can explain how all the other historians got their facts wrong.

 

[dad]

I am not privy to the details of Ussher's love life -- did he write any tell-all memoirs?

OK. So dating is not something you can discuss or support. But I suspect he was straight.

 

[dad]

Nice claim -- when you finally get around to supporting it, you can explain how all the other historians got their facts wrong.

Yes. I can.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes. I can.

But you only choose not to, is that it?

 

[dad]

But you only choose not to, is that it?

Not at all. Try and support a date for early Egypt and see how you fare.

 

[CabVet]

Not at all. Try and support a date for early Egypt and see how you fare.

Support with what? Dating methods that you don't accept?

 

[TLK Valentine]

OK. So dating is not something you can discuss or support.

You're the one who challenged Ussher's dating methodology -- you support something for a change.

But I suspect he was straight.

Even allowing for the predilection of homosexuality in the priesthood,* there's a 10% chance he wasn't.

*is the history of homosexuality within the priesthood something else I'm going to have to educate you on?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not at all. Try and support a date for early Egypt and see how you fare.

Sorry dad, you said you could do it -- now stop blathering and do it.

 

[dad]

Support with what? Dating methods that you don't accept?

Anything that doesn't depend on a present state of course, since you can't prove what state it was.